View Poll Results: Do you plan to work on improving your Core Web Vitals?

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  • I don't plan to pay any attention to Core Web Vitals.

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  • I will look at Core Web Vitals and might work to improve them.

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  • I will look at Core Web Vitals and make a few improvements to reduce poor scores.

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  • I will look at Core Web Vitals and put in the effort necessary to eliminate most or all poor scores.

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  • I will look at Core Web Vitals and work hard to have consistently good scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canadiancasinos View Post
    got lots of work ahead, with all these updates. what do you guys think, will exact match domains have bigger importance? there are some rumours in the air that they will.
    We go a bit of topic here, but to answer your question. I don't think exact match domains will have more importance.

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    These new core web vitals are irritating.

    We have some pages with almost identical templates that score well, and others that score poorly. Similar word counts also. Very perplexing.

    I think we need a CSS/HTML genius to look over our inline code and help us optimize existing pages...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROFRBcom View Post
    These new core web vitals are irritating.

    We have some pages with almost identical templates that score well, and others that score poorly. Similar word counts also. Very perplexing.

    I think we need a CSS/HTML genius to look over our inline code and help us optimize existing pages...

    Any takers? PM me

    Seems your #1 issue is excessive DOM (document object model) elements, on most of your pages. Find a workable solution to address those, and I'm sure you'll be happy with the results

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    ....and I've been reading up on DOM today...if I understand correctly ( and I may not be) it's essentially the sum of all the elements on a page. So a complex page with lots of elements (not just those visible, everything in the build code of that page...which of course does tie in with what's visible to an extent) like a lot of text in containers with line breaks etc etc, will have a larger DOM than for example a contact us page with not much on it.

    Apologies for (probably) stating the obvious.

    Solving it...not so obvious of course for some of us. Have something to try over next couple of days (that doesn't involve Fiverr) and I'm conservatively hopeful. Will advise if it has any positive impact.

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    Don't want to rub salt into an old wound....

    However, this is why learning some coding (at the very least: CSS and HTML) is priceless in these situations. Plugins etc., don't solve all problems. In some instances WP plugin etc, only add to the overheads (DOM or otherwise) issues/problems.

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    Agreed, from what I've (hopefully) understood, a plug in is not going to solve this...and in fact plugins are hugely untrustworthy, you never know what they are going to bust until they do it or what nasties they leave behind when you take them out. It's actually a relief when one works without issues. I've tried JS defer today and it went worse, along with a bunch of other stuff. One more try of a hopeful coding solution...then it''s drastic change theme and rebuild everything, a months worth of work minimum, and almost certainly will add new problems who said this WP stuff was easy??

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    Good grief!!

    After 6 hours of trying async or defer of JS + removing unused CSS + multiple combinations of all settings, various breakages, I gave up, went back to how it was.....and got the best ever scores 97 desktop/57 mobile on Google 397 LCP 108 TBT 0.07 CLS on GTMetrix all green

    So mobile is still obviously a problem (in Google's eyes)......but I just don't get why. It says the DOM is big...but it isn't on desktop so why is it different on mobile????

    Aside from all that...I'm betting if I run it again in an hour it will all have changed without actually having done anything (and probably be worse again)

    Does anyone know...or have a theory on....why the speed results change even if you haven't changed anything (and sometimes wildly)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaumi View Post
    Good grief!!

    After 6 hours of trying async or defer of JS + removing unused CSS + multiple combinations of all settings, various breakages, I gave up, went back to how it was.....and got the best ever scores 97 desktop/57 mobile on Google 397 LCP 108 TBT 0.07 CLS on GTMetrix all green

    So mobile is still obviously a problem (in Google's eyes)......but I just don't get why. It says the DOM is big...but it isn't on desktop so why is it different on mobile????

    Aside from all that...I'm betting if I run it again in an hour it will all have changed without actually having done anything (and probably be worse again)

    Does anyone know...or have a theory on....why the speed results change even if you haven't changed anything (and sometimes wildly)?
    Fluctuations in server speed potentially?

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