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    If you want to keep it, just please pay it with crypto and have it registered under fake name. This will bring the potential problems to nearly 0%. Nobody will sue you anyways, but better safe than sorry. The domain is likely useless.
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    If your content violates brand policies or creates confusion about a connection with the official brand, there is a high likelihood that major brands will take action.
    Large brands often monitor their names online, so considering the potential risks, it is advisable to avoid taking any chances.

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    Totally not worth it.

    Most companies hire agencies to check their TM's when domains with trademarks are registered. I once used the word "target" in a generic domain, nothing to do with home wares or clothes etc. and had Target's lawyers send me an email and physical registered post within a week saying I had to transfer the domain over to them or face consequences.

    I relented because it wasn't worth my time or energy. This is just an example that I've experienced, my advice would be to not waste your time. Especially if you are in the gambling industry.

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    I got letter from lawyers just yday. I registered a domain that I use only as service domain, without content. Somehow the randomly chosen word and .xyz tld is their brand.

    But if anyone uses fake ID for domain holder as precaution, there is no harm. They just pay their 500 USD to udrp and 50K to lawyers and that is it. I also do not bother to respond to them.

    As much as I like bet365, they chose this brand. Bet and 365=year are just short common words. They could have chosen something more unique. The whole idea of brands is twisted. What are brands? Symbols that are monopolised by one entity. But symbols are universal. The development of modern society started by "ownership" of symbols (e.g. church monopolised that only they know about god etc). The power comes from ownership of symbols.

    Although the society needs to be respected, on individual basis I do not see a reason why to submit to this symbol monopolisation. If you are not totally dumb, then all that can happen from TM domain registration, is a letter from lawyers. I understand that 18 of 20 people get heart attack from letters from lawyers, but that is your problem that has to be resolved.
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    I agree with you Sherlock, to an extent.

    Trademarks can be ignored in many cases you you have a domain called Ibet365.com and you registered it before the "bet365" trademark and can prove that you do bet three hundred and sixty five days per year.

    However, since the Bet365 trademark is related to betting, you could spend a million fighting them in court, then another 2 million fighting their appeal and even if you did win, which is very unlikely, you'd be out of pocket 3 million for trying to defend something that isn't worth it, unless you are someone with really strong morals, a really large bank account and much larger than average balls.

    If your Ibet365.whatever has made any money from gambling industry, it's unlikely you could ever win a trademark case against bet365.

    I'm not sure what anonymous names and cryptocurrency has to do with this, because ICANN can, will and does take peoples domain names off them, as do courts. Especially if the person has illegally, per domain registration law, entered false information. Also, if the person entered real info, but cannot be found, or simply doesn't reply to requests or answer the door (which is unlikely they'd ever spend resources to actually do), then the domain will be forfeit to the trademark holder.

    I don't know this from experience, but simple common knowledge.

    If I'm wrong, please let me know how I can rip off trademarks, steal their customers and sell their wares without getting in trouble, I'm in need of some fast cash. (that was sarcasm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussiePunter View Post
    I agree with you Sherlock, to an extent.

    Trademarks can be ignored in many cases you you have a domain called Ibet365.com and you registered it before the "bet365" trademark and can prove that you do bet three hundred and sixty five days per year.

    However, since the Bet365 trademark is related to betting, you could spend a million fighting them in court, then another 2 million fighting their appeal and even if you did win, which is very unlikely, you'd be out of pocket 3 million for trying to defend something that isn't worth it, unless you are someone with really strong morals, a really large bank account and much larger than average balls.

    If your Ibet365.whatever has made any money from gambling industry, it's unlikely you could ever win a trademark case against bet365.

    I'm not sure what anonymous names and cryptocurrency has to do with this, because ICANN can, will and does take peoples domain names off them, as do courts. Especially if the person has illegally, per domain registration law, entered false information. Also, if the person entered real info, but cannot be found, or simply doesn't reply to requests or answer the door (which is unlikely they'd ever spend resources to actually do), then the domain will be forfeit to the trademark holder.

    I don't know this from experience, but simple common knowledge.

    If I'm wrong, please let me know how I can rip off trademarks, steal their customers and sell their wares without getting in trouble, I'm in need of some fast cash. (that was sarcasm).
    Useful info for me. I'll keep it in mind.

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    If you develop a referral program for them, I think they will definitely not be against it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andr View Post
    If you develop a referral program for them, I think they will definitely not be against it
    Most operators protect their brand names quite a bit. And in some cases if they want it, they are not gonna care if you developed a referral for them or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Most operators protect their brand names quite a bit. And in some cases if they want it, they are not gonna care if you developed a referral for them or not.

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    Agreed, and a lot of the time it's 3rd party legal teams doing the takedowns. I've lost a few domains because it had a brand name in it, consulted a friend who specialises in copywrite law and there's really not much you can do. You can reach an agreement and they pay you out a small amount, or they can just legally take it (it's cheaper and easier to pay out the small amount for them).

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