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    Question Freshman in Binary, confused about Networks to work with.

    Hey there, Firs of all little intro - I'm new to Binary but not new to aff marketing at all. I'm pushing traffic from Facebook to Binary offers for almost a month now - BH all the way. Overall in the space for 3 or so years.

    So the thing is I'm confused about all the networks specialising in Binary (specially BH, unlicensed brokers) that go hand in hand with MMO funnels.

    I'm not sure if it's allowed to tell names of networks here so I'll just thow a hint - I started with one of the largest and oldest in the space, they also have couple of their own binary programs. Let's call it the SuperNetwork

    So yeah pushed there for a while, then soon my AM - let's call him John introd me to a new network (let's call it NewNetwork) his buddy runs, he is AM there as well. Hadn't heard of NewNetwork, I asked around and barely anyone heard of the it actually. Sounded like a better deal so I pushed some traffic there as well.

    Now today my old AM(not current, from like 2 years back, let's call him Ben) from SuperNetwork contacts me. Turns out he also has a network now, let's call it WtfNetwork. Again, sounds like even better deal but this WtfNetwork is even shadier than NewNetwork - couple months old domain, no front-end website. And also noone has heard of it. Asked John - he also knows this owner of WtfNetwork.

    Noone has heard of WtfNetwork too. Except all the guys involved in Binary - The AMs, network owners. They are all located in Isreal and know each other very well. Seems like everyone and their mother has a binary aff network in Israel.

    I can't come up with specific question. I just find this very weird. What's up with all that? Should I even bother or just stay with the big, old, reputable network? I guess I'm seeking advice from wiser guy who has been in this vertical longer.

    P.S. I've been paid by both NewNetwork and SuperNetwork.
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    If affiliate managers are consistently leaving the groups they work with and jumping ship, makes you wonder why they are leaving and whether or not you can really trust those managers.

    The entire group of managers that keep playing this ring-around-the-rosie game should possibly be suspect.

    Are the player/gamblers being treated well?

    Are you on revshare and you see consistent deposits and players that stick around?

    Or is it an endlless stream of new signups of players that become less than happy with who you sent them to 1st and they keep signing up at new groups?

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    Don't work with networks, work directly with the brands!
    Rev. share in binary is like walking around with a loaded gun in your mouth, one day they are there, the other are gone

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    The problem with CPA in any niche is that if the property is not making a profit from the players over and above the cpa amount, why should they pay that high of an amount?

    If they are making a decent profit, then it should have been more advantageous to go with revshare.

    I also agree with the reasons superme stated about networks and going direct instead, and that shows it could be a situation of the managers jumping from property to property to send the traffic through their network, since the cpa they are earning is short-lived due to no profitability,

    If players never stick around at the property you are promoting, then the property is not a good value for the player, since if it was wouldn't they stay?

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    It's not that these guys are jumping the ship. At least doesnt seem like that. Yes deposits are not consistent at all. I find this vertical very weird. Starting from inconsistent performance, ending with weird stuff going on with networks.

    I'm on CPA, not Revshare. Revshare could be better I agree. Ok let's say I would like to work with a broker directly. Which ones would take a low/medium scale affiliate (5 - 10 deposits per day)? How much can I expect to get paid per deposit (if I choose that instead of Revshare)? As for features I would need iFrame form.

    Also I'm not sure whats the overall vibe of this forum though - selling to people wanting to trade Binary or selling push-button overnight millionaire bizopp? I'm in the 2nd group. Also it seems like most people are doing SEO here. I push paid traffic.
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    Well, we have found that more of (not all, since some are more concerned about long term numbers) but some push more of the pie-in-the-sky offers and tell players they will be rich tomorrow.

    If you want to earn long term profits with revshare you will want players that play and deposit regularly.

    If player #A comes to your site, and believes your links will make him rich in a day or two and they don't why should he join the second or third site you recommend?

    But if player #B gets a more honest explanation about trading in binary, and understands it is gambling, and understands he will not always win he will more likely be a ore loyal player provided you send him to a reputable broker site.

    There are some affiliates here at the GPWA that do very well promoting revshare programs and convert players that stay loyal.

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    I would suggest reading about the products and deciding if you morally can swallow that Binary/Forex is 'gambling' or just an exploitative scam.
    From what I read and my limited knowledge I understand that there is almost no chance the player makes money or gets the chance to cash out.


    These two articles i posted before:
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/the-wol...-scam-exposed/
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/binary-...to-be-stopped/

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