Friendly word of advice - generally speaking :)

[-Shay-]

Just a friendly word of advice for all the affiliate programs & managers out there...

IF your program DOES NOT pay "on time" (i.e. - you state something like paid on time by 15th of month every month) REMOVE THAT SELLING POINT FROM YOUR WEBSITE. It is not accurate, it is not a selling point and it is going to cause trust issues going forward.

As an affiliate program, if you cannot live up to your promises, you're better off not advertising said promises when it is a monthly occurance.

[TravG]

It does amaze me how some programs pay by the 1st or 2nd of the month and others it seems like you have to fight for it. If so many programs can pay so early why does it take others 20 days or more to do the same?

[bradz21]

I have to fight every month it seems with these affiliate programs. Sadly, just figure now it's part of the business. Agree it should NOT be this way..

[xecutable]

Well I don't know if this can actually be done, I have only seen it in the movies, and as I am not a banker I can't say for sure. But imagining you are a huge brand that owes a few millions of payments per month, and those payments get prepared by the 2nd-3rd, but they don't have to be sent out by the 20th or the 25th.

The stuff I've seen in movies is they put that sort of money in a bank account for a short period of time and though the interest is little, the sum is large so the interest is quite good. Of course this is just a speculation.

It could be anything like disorganization, slow semi-automatic software that consumes more time with processing but comes off cheaper.

Hey at least when the payments are late they have good excuses! My favorite one was "We forgot"! And it's big brand, one of the awarded as well *wink* *wink*

[-Shay-]

Hey at least when the payments are late they have good excuses! My favorite one was "We forgot"! And it's big brand, one of the awarded as well *wink* *wink*

My personal favourite from 4 years is when I was told there was a 35 day bank holiday and processing payments during said holiday were impossible. The program has since shut down.

More recently, there's a program where we set up payment to PayPal, as it is an option in the system. The 15th came and went. We reached out to the program and they told us that we needed to select a new option for payment, as PayPal is not supported (yet mind you, its in their system).

We selected the new method, figuring payment would be shipped - even emailed the AM informing them of such. A week later, we email again only to be told "we cannot process any more payments this month. We'll have to carry it over to next month, as the bank run has already been completed. Rest assured, you will be paid on time and in full by the 15th of the following month".

The PROBABILITY of us getting another excuse this month as opposed to the proper amount due is high, as the payment report shows that we've been paid by PayPal for last month's commissions due.

[Grahams]

Agree with all the statements above... The world is getting worse...

Aff partners remember, we cannot trust anybody even thogh they are so called "reputable", etc.

[justbookies]

Yes, there are always firms you need to chase, one of the most annoying and unnecessary parts of the business. Some of them are good firms otherwise, just deliberately slow or incompetent with payments.

Mind you I just can't get paid by Vernons (Sportech) at all. Owed a payment from July last year as well as December. Fortunately it is not a lot of money because they just don't pay despite emails and even a Skype conversation with their hopeless "affiliate manager".

[Grahams]

Taking into consideration these bad things, the best way is to enforce our rights in courts as well as to make proper reports to gambling commissions, software providers and licencors and payment operators. Another bad practise I have noticed is bad behaviour of people who work for these companies - affiliate managers, payment processors, etc. If they work for unreliable company their behavior is getting also unreliable and unfair.......

[justbookies]

I have been told that ridiculous contract terms worded to the effect that 'we can change the terms of agreement and do whatever we want at any time' would be laughed out of court.

[lots0]

Lets be honest... a large percentage of these online casino companies are nothing but thieves. They have no intention of 'playing fair' with anyone, unless they have too. Affiliates getting paid is a joke, because they steal your players and then decide what minim they can get away with paying you and still keep your traffic flowing to them.

If they think they can delay your "payment" even better for them... As long as your traffic keeps flowing to them they don't care if you get paid or not.

IMO every affiliate should set up their sites so they can pull a programs links/baners/adds and redirect that traffic to another program with as little problems and as fast as possible.
So that when a program is "late" with your money, your traffic stops to them, the day after the payment is late, and the traffic does not start up again to that program till your paid...

Institute a system like that and watch your delayed payments disappear.

The ONLY thing most of these guys care about is your traffic, it is your ONLY leverage with the programs... So you better be able to easily control it or your just not going to get paid full value for it.

[pobbmaster]

frankly speaking there are only bunch of affiliate networks there who pay on time rest of them are pain....

[-Shay-]

imo every affiliate should set up their sites so they can pull a programs links/baners/adds and redirect that traffic to another program with as little problems and as fast as possible.
So that when a program is "late" with your money, your traffic stops to them, the day after the payment is late, and the traffic does not start up again to that program till your paid...

Institute a system like that and watch your delayed payments disappear.

The only thing most of these guys care about is your traffic, it is your only leverage with the programs... So you better be able to easily control it or your just not going to get paid full value for it.

amen!

[Grahams]

no news for me... but sounds resonable.

One thing to be done here is to create and stick one general topic re list of affiliate programms with payment problems.. That's the way we can avoid and get rid of scammers.