Gambling Wages Affiliate Issues?

**Anthony** · 12 March 2009, 1:02 pm

Hey,

If any affiliates have current issues with Gambling Wages we would like to know about it and see if we can help.
Please PM me with details and I will keep everyone informed what the issues and resolutions are.

**Webzcas** · 13 March 2009, 9:20 am

Whilst commendable, why do people promote these rogues?? The virtual casino group whose properties such as Cool Cat and Palace of Chance make up are one of the biggest rogue online casino groups going.

What about the players owed money by the properties that Gambling Wages promotes? Surely they should be first of the list to get paid.

Seriously, any webmaster who promotes any gambling wages owned properties to their visitors needs their head read.

**Anthony** · 13 March 2009, 9:38 am

We have also been looking at player issues, believe me we know players are the lifeline of this industry.

If I can assist any affiliate with any issue regarding GW or any program, I will try. Making an effort to help is more important than criticizing why they got into the situation in the first place, IMO.

**Webzcas** · 13 March 2009, 9:42 am

Making an effort to help is more important than criticizing why they got into the situation in the first place, IMO.

I know your intentions are good, but I just don't have any sympathy for any webmaster who has been shafted by Gambling Wages.

**mynuw** · 19 March 2009, 11:01 pm

Anthony,
I was promised a payment schedule on Monday by Sourav, I kow you had asked for one also. Just wondering if you ever got anything back from him.

Webz, this is for you.

Originally Posted by greek39

Einstein often said, not an exact quote but, It is not that I am so smart I just stay with the problem longer.

To help another rather than sit on that fence is priceless!

greek39

I really really hope that you never find yourself in this situation but someday you might and you may want to think about your unkind words.
You may need help in getting what is owed to you someday. Remember what goes around comes around and Karma can sometimes be a Bitch and bite you in the ass when you least exspect it.

**mojo** · 20 March 2009, 2:09 am

It has been a very very long time since mynu has been having this problem. Perhaps someone could finally PAY her?

**Integrity** · 20 March 2009, 4:30 am

This topic is a sticky, stinky, deep and slippery pit of monkey poop.

Gambling Wages needs to:

A) Force Virtual to eliminate every rediculous bonus offer at every property they own.

B) Pay every player and every webmaster every cent owed to them immediately.

The APCW tried to work these things out before and we had our berries cut off and handed to us on a plate. It's not that I don't want to help, but I refuse to endure the same hell I went through last time if there has been no effort of "good will" from them. Less talk and more action, please.

The guys at Gambling Wages are nice enough, but they need to read these things and get their stuff together before I am enthusiastic about sticking my neck out again. I will do anything within my power for the webmasters and players, but not if they are going to cut me up to feed to their dogs.

**stgeorge** · 20 March 2009, 7:04 am

Originally Posted by Integrity

This topic is a sticky, stinky, deep and slippery pit of monkey poop.

Gambling Wages needs to:

A) Force Virtual to eliminate every rediculous bonus offer at every property they own.

B) Pay every player and every webmaster every cent owed to them immediately.

The APCW tried to work these things out before and we had our berries cut off and handed to us on a plate. It's not that I don't want to help, but I refuse to endure the same hell I went through last time if there has been no effort of "good will" from them. Less talk and more action, please.

The guys at Gambling Wages are nice enough, but they need to read these things and get their stuff together before I am enthusiastic about sticking my neck out again. I will do anything within my power for the webmasters and players, but not if they are going to cut me up to feed to their dogs.

Conversion is poor.

Retention is virtually non existent.

It has actually regressed in the last 6 months or so.

**Integrity** · 20 March 2009, 4:24 pm

Originally Posted by stgeorge

Conversion is poor.

Retention is virtually non existent.

It has actually regressed in the last 6 months or so.

More the reason the get their act together and go mainstream by offering realistic bonuses and paying people on time.

Their business model may have made them a few extra dollars in the short term, but it is a counterproductive loser over the long haul.

**mynuw** · 23 March 2009, 8:53 am

For any new webmasters who might be reading this topic please be adviced that 123bingo is also a GW Partner although it is not housed in the GW Stats.

123Bingo affiliate program is www.bingo4affiliates.com Affiliate manager is DJay or Sourav.
affiliates@bingo4affiliates.com or djay@123bingoonline.com Sourav authorizes all payments and Gw processes them.

Bingoknights is housed in the GW Affiliate site but payments are handled and authorized by Sourav and processed by GW.

I have been owed earnings by these guys for over a year. Past due balance as of now is 2300.00

I have been fighting with these two guys/jerks since Oct 2008 to get these outstanding balances paid and way before Oct 2008 before this new management took over.

The kicker to this set up and having different Affiliate managers for these two Bingo properties is you don't know for one that 123bingo is even part of the GW Prperties until you start requesting payment and you don't know that payments for 123bingo/bingo4affiliates or bingoknights are not even authorized by GW's affiliate manager but a different affiliate manager until you request payment.

I cant speak to how Steve the affiliate manager of the GW Casinos handles his affiliates or payments because I have never promoted the GW CASINOS.

I do know for a fact that the Affiliate managers for 123bingo and Bingoknights are not trustworthy , honest or truthful in any form of the words. New management, same ole games!

There are other webmasters who are due earnings who have been promised payment and are still waiting and have been waiting for months. I'm not the only one!

If you are due any earnings for 123bingo/bingo4affiliates or Bingoknights/GW you have to email :Sourav at affiliates@bingo4affiliates.com or djay@123bingoonline.com

More info can be found here;
https://www.gpwa.org/forum/what-do-178328.html
http://www.gamblingindustryassociati...ead.php?t=1429

**absolutebet** · 23 March 2009, 12:47 pm

I have been trying to get my payment since late December, early January. Firstly contacting Djay who said he would send my request to their payment processors. A month passed and nothing. January I sent an email to Sourav requesting payment again... and thats where it began to get frustrating. After several emails and promises to pay I finally realized I was only getting the run around. They weren't intending to pay me. They were just playing games.

Bingo4Affiliates' behaviour definately lacks professionalism. It is unacceptable. I realize I am not the only affiliate expecting payment from them. I'm sorry for all those who are. This game isn't fun and it leaves a bad taste for this industry. I wonder if they even pay their players?

I have been emailing Sourav almost daily and haven't heard a word back in 11 days. They owe me $655 and in this tough economy I know we can all use the money we've earned in good faith.

**Jinnia** · 24 March 2009, 10:41 am

Originally Posted by APCW Anthony

We have also been looking at player issues, believe me we know players are the lifeline of this industry.

If I can assist any affiliate with any issue regarding GW or any program, I
will try. Making an effort to help is more important than criticizing why they
got into the situation in the first place, IMO.

Have you been able to find out what's going on with a player issue at
Club Player Casino?

For now, I'll not mention this players user name in public, or the lame
excuse I received from GW, or just how long this as been an issue - or how
they just stopped communicating on it.

Check your PM's!

**Anthony** · 24 March 2009, 4:51 pm

I received several PM's. I am bringing these issues to Gambling Wages and will let everyone know what their response is.

**absolutebet** · 24 March 2009, 6:02 pm

Thanks Anthony. I appreciate any assistance you can offer

**bb1web** · 27 March 2009, 11:33 am

anyone have a complete list of their properties laying around handy?

**roger** · 28 March 2009, 3:04 am

Originally Posted by bb1web

anyone have a complete list of their properties laying around handy?

Coolcat
Cirrus
Bingo nights
Club player casino
Palace of Chance
Wild of Vegas

**roger** · 28 March 2009, 3:13 am

Im also still in the same hole with GW. $10k owed for miscalculation and Im just trying to get a simple excel sheet to verify payments for past 6 months so probably more as accounting is rediculous. Request was put in at least a month or more ago for this. Nothing still.

On top of that, they had the balls to send me a $64 western union wire transfer. I honestly feel they are trying to **** me off now, as I have bank wire set up and $64, wtf...not even worth the time.

I wanted to see why it was only $64 anyways. Look at these manager and coupon amounts awarded. So sickening.

As for their accounting miscalculation I've told them I would supply any bank statements needed and the stack of Fedex slips with check #'s on them.

The only way they said they would pay me was if I began sending more players. Yeah....right.

I hate posting stuff like this and being so negative but Im so sick of people screwing everyone over.

**joeyl** · 28 March 2009, 6:46 pm

Originally Posted by Integrity

A) Force Virtual to eliminate every rediculous bonus offer at every property they own.

That's probably all of them at all of them judging by the previous webmaster's post. Of which, if there's a way of doctoring those stats, this firm would not blink before doing so.

Players have been caught up in this firm's web of deceit for a long time, and they're not alone it seems.

Newcomer webmasters post up this firm, send players, and are then reticent about dropping the firm when they find out they are rogues, because their previous players may earn them money. On & on it goes.

Todd: q: can you get a comment from RTG and the licensors. Even a no comment will do as a starting point, ie it's on record.

**roger** · 28 March 2009, 7:00 pm

FYI, I have put up a bet to GW personally.

Here is the thread, and the exact prop bet to GW for $20,000 if they can prove me wrong.

**Anthony** · 31 March 2009, 12:42 pm

I contacted GW and hope they will stop by and join the conversation.

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