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    Default GamingPromo.com $100 per player + Rev Share in November

    Newsflash: GamingPromo is giving away $25-$100 per player in November, on top of your revenue share!!!

    Simply promote the highest welcome bonus online at City Club Casino, adhere to the linked terms and the money is yours.

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    You guys know my views that your terms and conditions are seriously out of whack with reality BUT

    I must say that through simple and polite phone and e-mail correspondence, I have maintained a really decent relationship with you and as a result, I have enjoyed listing your sites. I hope and trust you never leave Shay. For all those reading this, it pays to get to know Shay and to make sure he knows you and your plans and dreams too. He is a rather nice person and well worth knowing.

    Oh, and while you're at it, make sure to send him a mail giving him your thoughts on the current terms and conditions. There is no way for him to tell managment about a better way if he isn't armed to the teeth with inbound mails. Management simply believe that the current way is the best way. Let them know what they are missing.

    Now, I have no clue how to move this thread. Will a moderator please move it to the appropriate forum
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    I think Quack is a decent guy, in all fairness to him he is the reason I am still promoting cityclub. As just like Brian I really dont like their new terms, for those of you that dont know what they are they basically give you just 20% of all your rev share if you dont send a real player through in a month even if you have sent a really big player through the month before who is wagering fortunes.

    In all fairness this is better than it was when I they first made their 'big changes' and didnt pay us anything on month that if we didnt send through a real player who wagered. I removed links to all of thier sites from all of my sites at that point in time. But I have now put them back up there.

    Although I dont think its the best affiliate model by far, I dont think its any worse than say the Referback one.

    And I for one certainly welcome the extra $25-$100 per player although I do think it helps the people who pay for traffic a bit more than it helps guys like me who do it via the organic SEO route (anyone care to teach me how to make money out of ppc and I will be your friend for life).

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    Wink i think its a great bonus

    casinogod: for now al the major SE such as google, Yahoo, MSN etc. dont allow to have ppc to gambling sites, although there are ways to bypass it. I know that Blowsearch allows ppc to gambling.

    In the matter in hand i think its a great idea, the extra bonus on top of the revenues...going to come in handy on those christmas shopping...
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    Do these people still have that $500 minimum to get payed? And do they still carry over negatives?
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    Thread moved from GPWA Public Announcements forum to Casino/Sportsbook Advertising forum, the more natural home for this kind of post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd75219
    Do these people still have that $500 minimum to get payed? And do they still carry over negatives?
    $50 minimum to get paid and we are one of the few PlayTech with NO NEGATIVE carryover.

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    Default Why is CAP acting in such an unproffesional manner?

    Hi All,

    I posted the same thread in CAP, awaiting feedback for better or worse but what happened?
    "Proffessor" decided it was spam out of the blue, deliberatly altered my threads and unwittingly tried to remove my thread content fearing I won't be able to use it for all to see.

    Take a look at what a "Proffessional" job he did with the same thread I started here and in many other respected forums.
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    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...mber.8293.html

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    GamingPromo Spams CAP and shows they are Ass Clowns

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    Newsflash: SpammingPromo is giving away $25,000-$100,000 per player in November, on top of your revenue shave!!!

    Simply promote the highest welcome bonus online at Spammy Club Casino, adhere to the linked terms and the money is yours.

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    GamingPromo, good work

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    Hey SpamingPromo,

    I just wanted to thank you for inviting me to spam the message boards too. I can honoustly say that you are a Master Spammer! I will be there to support you.

    Keep up the good work and keep that spam coming.



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    Unique offer

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    Proffesor,

    I have no idea why you call this spam.

    My offer is unique and each and every forum member here can make money from it.


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    Is CAP here for you to broadcast offers?

    Its Spammy Quack. We are NOT here for you to run free ads. You aren't a certified partner here Quack. Your terms and conditions are anti Affiliate currently and predatory.

    You are welcome to post promotional messages down here in the correct area. You arent welcome to post advertisements in the General disucssion area.
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    Our Spam:

    We will shave $25-$100 Extra off the top of your commissions, with no carry over, low reputation with affiliates and generally shunned by all.

    It is definetly not spam - and it is a terrible offer for all affiliates!!!

    I don't know many affiliate programs that shave up to 110% and then shave extra $100 per player.

    I expect your forum to be a stage for dialogue. (So I can spam it)

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    Quack we are a forum for dialogue, not spam.

    Since you insist on being a butthead about this I am suspending your membership here. And your spammy thread is being archived so you get no benefit from this little circus you put on this morning.

    Rather then helping your program by promoting it responsibly you decided to act like this. Not a smart move Quacky.

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    Quack,

    Although I may or may not necessarily agree with the way your thread was handled, there very well may have been other underlying reasons why it was handled in that manner.

    Honestly, this forum is not where it should be discussed, and you should talk this over with Lou directly. (I ask our members to not discuss the thread at CAP here and if you feel the need to comment ON THE CAP THREAD, respect CAP and post over there)

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    Concerning the affiliate issue.

    I have discussed this entire thing with Shay many many times over the last year. I too respect Shay, and have always VOICED my opinions with him.

    Like others, I pulled all links to Gamingpromo properties immediately after the terms change before....

    Quack, if you could tell Shay that my number has not changed, and if he ever needs beat up by phone again, he already knows to always have his coffee first before calling....LOL

    I look forward to the day when you realize that affiliates do NOT like the terms as currently stated, and many of us would be much more prone to put you back up if you would work toward the kind of terms that many of us signed up under originally...that we were TOLD were LIFETIME aggreements.

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    If in a given month, there are no new depositing players, you WILL NOT be eligible for payment for THAT GIVEN MONTH, even if your players continued to play or make further deposits. Only if there is at least 1 (one) new depositing player each month, you shall receive payment for the revenues generated by all your players
    Who in there right mind would agree on those terms? This is more or less theft put in writing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4
    you should talk this over with Lou directly. (I ask our members to not discuss the thread at CAP here and if you feel the need to comment ON THE CAP THREAD, respect CAP and post over there)

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    I respectfully wanted to not only have a dialogue with Lou but with all the affiliates in CAP. But it is kind of hard when the person responsible, deactivates your account and alters your threads.

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    Whilst I agree that the terms and conditions are unacceptable - I have to stand up for Shay . He still manages to try his best despite managements terms and conditions - I have always found him very helpful and responsive in all my dealings with him , and at the expense of Rick's wrath for mentioning CAP - whilst I am a CAP member myself and do respect the Profs opinions - in this instance I simply have to say that I think his response to Shays post was uncalled for.
    Don't debate my comment because then I will be in real trouble with Rick for mentioning the C word

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4
    Concerning the affiliate issue.
    Quack, if you could tell Shay that my number has not changed, and if he ever needs beat up by phone again, he already knows to always have his coffee first before calling....LOL
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    Rick, Quack is Shay and it's a pleasure.
    You are a man of principal and I like that. But it is time you look at the whole picture.
    GamingPromo Gives out the highest commissions in this industry. Show me one other program that in their terms and conditions the revenue share percentage reaches 55%. On top of that GamingPromo is also offering $25-$100 per player in November, there is no negative carry over and a very low $50 payout minimum.
    Our revenue share starts at 35% (very high), and since we first talked we have offered all affiliates 20% for those bad months if they actively promote us on their sites and it is coordinated with their affiliate manager.

    Take all that and the fact that City Club Casino has the best welcome bonus online - and you got one of the best if not the best affiliate commission structure around.

    Now I see a win situation here for all. You can use what you said earlier as your personal excuse - logically it is no longer a reason.

    We have affiliates making five digits each month and with a four digit player value you can too.

    Share the love...
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    Quote Originally Posted by chill
    Who in there right mind would agree on those terms? This is more or less theft put in writing.
    chill, sometimes you have to read between the lines or in this case a few sentences below where it empowers the affiliate manager to give his affiliates more options. Our business is built on relationships and trust and that is why I'm here.

    I truly believe we have one of the greatest offers around. You have read all the previous threads of my respected friends. Rick is a Love/Hate kinda friend - but still a friend .

    Now it is just a question of when can we start making money for you too.

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    I dont know if I like the mention of the word terms way to much. What is it thats so bad?
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    I think Dicemans post above is a perfect license to push this thread in a proper direction and that is to focus on the terms.

    Shay, you know you have nice properties to offer and that affiliates can make good money with you. What you miss seeing though is that the affiliate industry here is a pyramid. 90% income to 10% affiliates with the other 10% going to the remaining 90% of affiliates.

    Jokes aside. GPWA is known to have a strong base of start up affiliates. Yes, we have a few seriously big affiliates but on the whole, the private forums operate quite heavily on a mentor basis. Lots of "how to" questions by the newer webmasters and precious and valuable answers from a few living legends.

    OK, so the defined base of Joe Average affiliates are going to see risk in those terms of yours. It's knid of like telling them that your toll road has a 200 miles per hour speed limit but they own a 1965 volkswagen beetle. They can only look at your program and say "So what".

    What the little affiliate wants in a safety net. Now, as you say, a good relationship with the affiliate manager is capable of creating a decent enought deal but trust is based on what they read. Chill said it all when he copied and pasted from your terms and conditions.

    If you want to grow the support of the up and coming webmasters, then put in writing what you have in your heart already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quack
    Our revenue share starts at 35% (very high), and since we first talked we have offered all affiliates 20% for those bad months if they actively promote us on their sites and it is coordinated with their affiliate manager.
    Why can't you put that in the terms then, why should I have to make some "dodgy" agreement with an affilliate manager over something that should be there in the first place. You % tabels are nice reading, but I guess it's easy to offer as long as maybe 60-80% of your smaller affiliates don't get payed since they failed to get a signup. Guess that gives you a nice overhead from all the players they sent previously!

    I shrug by the thought of sending you a whale in November only to see that I don't get payed on his 50k loss in December because I fail getting a signup.
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    I agree with Chill....and Shay....you know the biggest argument you and I have always had...is what is in the "Legal Terms of Service!" If you are gonna stand by a set of terms offering 20%, than put it in writing.

    If it isn't in writing....it's nothing but lip service that you can use the 0% rule against any affiliate any time you want.

    I told you before that I respected the fact that you were early adopters of the rule not to carry over negatives and the fact that you lowered the minimum payment threshold to make it more attractive to ALL afiliates.

    By the way Shay, I DO look at the big picture...and you guys aren't the only group that starts at 35%, with no negative carry-overs and those others at that rate do NOT lower an affiliates commission if they have an off month or two and don't sign a player.

    Some of the other groups I work with may start out a bit lower than 35%, but they have terms stated in writing that match the terms that they actually offer their affiliates.

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    One thing you can trust about GamingPromo is that it has a set of terms that it is not going to change. Now you know I've been around... so let me share a bit of my insight:
    All programs are businesses thus, have to exist. Most programs have itsy bitsy little terms that allow them to dodge payments from time to time. For example, most programs will say - if you don't bring in traffic in so and so time your account will be de-activated. Now try defining traffic. Believe me when I say, I've heard a lot of affiliates cry when they run with a program and all of the sudden their expectations of the program falls because they don't bring in the defined traffic. This is only one example.
    When we set out to create this new venture we were thinking of the little guys. We were thinking of how they can trust our rules, rules that don't change. Did you know that it takes at least 8 months to get on top of google? In that period of time you have to count on this mutual agreement - and that is exactly what we provide.

    As you already know Rick - the industry average is 50% deposit only a first deposit and the rest might deposit more. From my personal experience "Whales" come through known sites. What I'm saying is that getting 35% on the first month is so much more for the starting affiliate then other programs.

    I respect you guys as mentors - and one of the things you should honor is this dialogue that we are having. As long as it is written it holds the same legal power as our terms.

    This November Promotion is short - $100 dollars for start up affiliates is a lot of money!!! Think of how to use this as a leverage... for their success.

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