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    Quote Originally Posted by Quack
    Most programs have itsy bitsy little terms that allow them to dodge payments from time to time. For example, most programs will say - if you don't bring in traffic in so and so time your account will be de-activated. Now try defining traffic. Believe me when I say, I've heard a lot of affiliates cry when they run with a program and all of the sudden their expectations of the program falls because they don't bring in the defined traffic.
    With all due respect Shay, you have missed this boat and all other boats that have arrived.

    I have dealings with close on 100 affiliate programs across all spheres. I am talking casinos, bingo, poker, lotto, and sports.

    Here you go, take the GPWA forums and then please do find the affiliate program that offers terms as you describe above.

    Also, while you are at it, find one program that has it's terms read that you will not be paid if you don't perform. I promise you Shay, you are not going to find it.

    Gaming Promo is the only program out there that has these terms. I know you are operating your affiliates deals differently but if you want a new affiliate who has no experience to put his faith and trust in you then I am afraid you are dead wrong.

    For the record though, I personally recommend NEVER talking about others' negatives in order to promote yourselves. If your program or its terms and conditions are not strong enough to stand up on their own then something is wrong.

    Go through the threads here and I believe you will find that NO other affiliate program has tried to inflate its value by comparing to others. That doesn't mean that you can't say you are the highest paying but to say that others cheat and you don't is taking the focus off the ball.

    The truth is that the stated terms and conditions are draconian and that no new affiliate in their right mind will sign up with you if they read the terms and conditions (the silly people are generally trusting and don't read them).

    If you want to operate on a 20% if you flop and 35% PLUS if you succeed basis, then put it in your terms and conditions and I will personally recommend your program. Failing that, my arrangements with you are one to one and I cannot guarantee to others that they will receive similar deals. The question just begs to be asked, what if you leave? Will I then be subjected to the stated terms? Can you speak for your successor?
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    This is exactly what we have to offer. 35% for a minimum of one depositing player and for those that want life and are willing to actively promote us in coordination with their affiliate manager 20% for those bad months.

    There you have it in black and white.

    YES it involves contacting us - and forming relationships. We talk and listen to our affiliates which is a great advantage.

    Now, top that with an extra $25-$100 per player in November.

    You promote us based on a personal relationship - that is what matters. And this is what you should be teaching new affiliates.

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    Truly

    You are on my sites based on that very relationship but the question remains, what if you leave? Where do we stand? Do you speak for City Club? Can they be bound by the terms of your post here?

    For the benefit of one and all, I stand here and say that putting you up on a page is not a bad idea. Good casinos and bingo. I am not aware of player complaints neither.

    Again though, if you are willing to put it here then put it into your terms and conditions.

    The members may tell you that I stand strongly behind the concept of two way traffic when it comes to deals. We sign up and agree to advertise you and you in turn agree to pay us according to set terms and conditions. You can add value to them but you cannot take away from them. That way we are pretty happy I think.

    I gather that one of your grumps and grouches is the case where a webmaster picks up a few monster players and then relegates you to the trash bin while still reaping the rewards. Well, if you want to write in a term that says the agreement is that we will advertise and you will pay us X and Y and then you point out that if we no longer advertise your property then we are in breach, then do so. Put it in your terms. It may offend some but it won't offend me. I buy into that ethic. You can't of course tell us to produce a player per month. That my friend is as much in your hands as in mine. How are you going to handle it if a guy sends you 20 downloads with no players? Is it his fault and he must now carry the can or is it a joint responsibility and you share the efforts and rewards?
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    GamingPromo has been great to us. Thanks for the heads up on that offer Shay

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbcasinos
    For the benefit of one and all, I stand here and say that putting you up on a page is not a bad idea. Good casinos and bingo. I am not aware of player complaints neither.

    Again though, if you are willing to put it here then put it into your terms and conditions.
    Thank You for the compliments.

    This industry is based on relationships and this is recommended with two thumbs up. If you find yourself in a position where you pay some one for their services - one trivial thing you would do is correspond with them either verbally or in writing. As you know, we usually summarize our verbal discussions into written emails. These written emails are bound by laws.

    GamingPromo offers every affiliate the possibility of a 20% for bad months or 35% for minimum of one player in agreement with his/her affiliate manager. Relationship being the strong word here.

    So this is what I propose, have everyone join us, get a great deal in November for up to $100 per player on top of high revenue shares - and by all means get in touch.

    After all we love you.

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    Quack,

    Glad to see you posting here.

    I would like to get some clarification, please.

    I have been an affiliate of yours since Dec., 2002. By September, 2003 my "balance owing" reached $480.78 and you still had a min. payment amount of $500. Because of a couple of small "negative" months, my balance dropped to $407.40. It has stayed at that exact amount since December, 2003 (23 months and counting).

    Now that your minimum payment is now $50...does it mean that as soon as I have 1 new player, my account will be paid in full?

    Thanks in advance.....

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    Chrysalis,

    I understand that you have some old issues with the company that ran GamingPromo before Promo-Market. Promo-Market is a marketing agency that took over GamingPromo in December 2004. It is on that date, that the terms were changed for the better. The revenue share percentages rose to 35%, payment minimum was decreased from $500 to $50, and Negative Carry over was abolished.

    Let's say you bought an existing site - you will not be accountable for its history! In a sense, this is the same thing with the old company that ran GamingPromo. I call it a great big hunchback (humpback).

    Personally, I would like to work with you. I do believe that it will be worth your time. City Club Casino has the highest welcome bonus online and in November we are giving up to $100 per player on top of the revenue share.

    I know that we have to prove ourselves to you, just like we have done with our other affiliate friends. Some of which you already met earlier in this thread.

    It would be my pleasure and honor to work with you.

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    Shay

    A simple question was posed. When will Chrysalis be paid? If you log into your backend then you have a registered affiliate with over $400 in his account. Are you going to pay him or not?

    Please address the point specifically and directly.
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    Brian,

    Chrysalis is an affiliate I respect and would think that every affiliate should aspire to be like him.

    I have been in touch with him for a long time now. The history that you are talking about is not the sum of money that you referred to, and it was accumilated by a tier system that the old company had and no longer exists.

    Chrysalis will get paid generously on his future earnings. But you know that already.

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    Shay,

    You state that you have been in touch with me for a long time now.....

    Really?

    I ask the question again, "does it mean that as soon as I have 1 new player, my account will be paid in full?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysalis
    Shay,

    You state that you have been in touch with me for a long time now.....

    Really?
    Uh oh!

    Shay, I know this is a public board but I am going to share one of the biggest trade tips ever revealed.

    Drum roll .............

    It's all about actions. Affiliates talk and share. We have situations where a program doesn't look after an affiliate and later come good and set matters straight. The affiliate, believe it or not, posts to that effect and you can see a very real increase in exposure across a number of different webmasters sites. Nothing like good news you know.

    However, the same applies where an affiliate feels hard done by and shares his/her pent up emotions with other webmasters. You find a general decrease in exposures. Nothing like bad news to break up good karma.

    It's a tough old world but I can honestly say that any affiliate who is not paid what he earned, no matter the excuse offered, then that is the ultimate in bad advertising/news. I say this as a friend. After this development, you can expect little if any result in marketing your program to GPWA affiliates unless you set matters straight. Webmasters pretty much stand together. Hand in hand so to speak. It's easy to ignore a lone voice you know. The question is whether you can ignore so many?
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    Well, for what its worth, I wouldn't be signing up!

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    I will never sign up with anyone that says we have to send them a minimum number of depositors. We send the players. It is up to you to get them to deposit.

    As long as there is exposure to your casinos, payments should be made for existing players regardless of the number of new depositors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysalis
    I ask the question again, "does it mean that as soon as I have 1 new player, my account will be paid in full?"
    Yes, your account will be paid in full as soon as you get a new player - as we discussed by phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kidd75219
    As long as there is exposure to your casinos, payments should be made for existing players regardless of the number of new depositors.
    kidd75219,

    I totally agree with you. When an affiliate is actively promoting us he should be paid for his/her hard work. Talk to me, I'm sure we can work it out.

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    I am pleased to go on record and state that GamingPromo has paid me and that my affiliate account balance with them is up-to-date.

    Thanks for getting this matter resolved.

    Cheers,

    Marc

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