Results 1 to 8 of 8
  1. #1
    vamius is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    July 2013
    Posts
    118
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts

    Default GG.BET vs GGBET.com - are they owned by the same company?

    I noticed there are both gg.bet and ggbet.com websites that look like clones, but gg.bet also has a casino while ggbet.com does not. Also I see that gg.bet has a Cyprus license, while ggbet.com has a Malta license.

    Does anyone have more info on this? Are they both legit, or one is a dangerous clone of another?

  2. #2
    universal4's Avatar
    universal4 is offline Forum Administrator
    Join Date
    July 2003
    Location
    Courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway. John Wayne
    Posts
    29,138
    Thanks
    2,541
    Thanked 8,180 Times in 5,180 Posts

    Default

    My quick look shows,

    The .bet site had captcha verification the .com did not
    The source code of each site is very similar with minor changes in the way the css is called and the references to the languages, as well as other minor changes noticed, but very similar code.

    The .bet site appears to have more language options as defined in source code

    The .com site defines MaxAffiliates, the .bet site does not

    Hard to tell if an authorized clone or not, I would ask the folks at maxaffiliates.

    Rick
    Universal4

  3. #3
    drifter8's Avatar
    drifter8 is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    March 2017
    Location
    Bulgaria
    Posts
    1,181
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    2,422
    Thanked 588 Times in 453 Posts

    Default

    GG.bet is a well known brand and they have a decent affiliate program.

    The interesting points here are :

    - common domains and two diffferent affiliate programs.

    - 2nd one - Income Access - I would and also try to skip this aff panel/ program.

    - If you like to make a choice, count on the 1st program/ site.

    - 2nd one seems to be a clone, but straneg they have Maltese license.

    - at least only one should exist, it looks to me as if bet365.com is the official site and there to be bet365.co or bet365.cc and the clones to have same design and totally different programs.

    Maybe admins on the forum can help out with clearing out this situation...
    Seven times fall, eight times stand.

  4. #4
    vamius is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    July 2013
    Posts
    118
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts

    Default

    The reason why I started this topic is because I've opened an account on ggbet.com just recently. Besides from being an iGaming affiliate, I also have fun placing bets occasionally so I register on a casino/sportsbook first before deciding if I want to promote them through affiliate programs. GGBet had solid odds for some eSports events, so I registered there. I only later realized that there are two similar sites - gg.bet and ggbet.com, one with Cyprus license and other one with Malta license.

    Anyway, after the registration I confirmed my account by providing a personal ID scan, utility bill and source of payment (Skrill) screenshots. After two days I received an email confirming that my account has been approved.


    I deposited 740 EUR via Skrill, made some bets and withdrew money successfully.

    Few days later I deposited another 1500 EUR via Skrill, made a bet but when I wanted to withdraw I received a message "Payment unsuccessful. Please contact customer support."

    I also received the following email from support@ggbet.com asking that I need to provide the following:

    My name is Sara from the Verification team here at GGBet Casino. We would first like to congratulate you on reaching this stage of your journey at the Casino. We appreciate your loyalty to the Casino and hope to have the pleasure of being your Casino of choice for the foreseeable future.

    As a betting operator licensed and regulated by the Malta Gaming Authority (MGA), we have a licencing obligation to know that the source of the funds that players use to play with us is legitimate. Therefore, at times when certain limits and thresholds are reached it may become necessary for us to ask players to provide evidence to confirm the affordability of their gambling spend.

    We do appreciate this may be the first time you have been asked this question, but it is a clear licencing requirement from the MGA and part of EU legislation.
    GGBet is not alone in seeking this type of information from customers, and it is likely that other betting operators will also request this information from you when your spend/play reaches equivalent levels.

    What we would require in this regard is the following:

    - A statement noting your primary source of income - ex: Salary / Investments / Inheritance / Savings / etc (if not already declared upon registration)
    - Documentation evidencing your stated income from which Casino deposits stem – ex: Bank account showing incoming salary credits / Dividends from investments crediting your bank account / Transfer of inheritance funds / etc

    What confused me is that they keep mentioning casino, while on ggbet.com website there is only a sportsbook and no casino section.
    Anyway, I've sent them a bank statement confirming my salary but after
    that I receive another email asking for:


    - statement showing how Skrill is funded

    So I send them screenshots of my Skrill transactions showing how it is being funded, which includes deposits from my VISA card.
    But even that is not enough so they ask me for the following:


    - since your Skrill account is mainly funded by your cards, we kindly ask for a confirmation and statement that card is linked to bank account where salary is credited or that cards are being funded from bank account were salary is credited.

    The thing is that the card I use to deposit funds to Skrill is connected to a bank account different from the one where I receive my salary, and they are not connected in any way. I have multiple bank accounts and multiple debit cards, like most people do.

    Therefore, I ask them to refund the money I deposited into ggbet.com and close my account. But they refuse to do so, with the following explanation:


    We completely understand your frustration regarding this request. However as a casino licensed by Malta Gaming we have to comply with the requirements set by these authorities. The Source of Funds request is a part of the EU 4th Money Laundering Directive and now is mandatory for all online licensed casinos. We will leave your Affordability Information in a pending state until you feel comfortable providing the requested document. You may cover any other personal transactions apart from the ones related to your income. The deposit/withdrawal option will remain blocked up till then.

    So, since they ask for a document that I cannot provide, does anyone have an idea how to get my money back from them? I asked them the same question and I'll wait for an answer. I will also probably point them to this topic, unless resolved soon.

    I am not sure if they are just trying to keep the money or they really need to ask for those documents. I registered on many MGA licensed casinos and sportsbooks and was never asked for such a detailed document.
    Last edited by vamius; 14 March 2022 at 12:26 pm.

  5. #5
    vamius is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    July 2013
    Posts
    118
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts

    Default

    I also registered on maxaffiliates.com which is linked from the bottom of ggbet.com and soon got contacted by their affiliate manager over Skype.

    Good day, Thank you for registering an account with Max Affiliates. My name is ***, I am your account manager
    Me: Hi ***, may I know if GGBET.com is also one of your brands?

    No GGBet is not part of us.
    Me: But I see that your affiliate program is linked on ggbet.com?

    Yes i see... one moment i am checking..
    Basically.. they are part of Max Ent but not Max Affiliates.. WE have inhouse support for them, but we do not takecare of the affiliation

  6. #6
    wonderpunter's Avatar
    wonderpunter is offline Private Member
    Join Date
    August 2013
    Posts
    2,656
    Blog Entries
    5
    Thanks
    402
    Thanked 1,738 Times in 1,051 Posts

    Default

    Same sites different license.. they will claim they are seperate.. they also work with affiliates that clone and scrape other sites, including mine.. they dont really care so you can imagine what kind of site they are.. Avoid

  7. #7
    vamius is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    July 2013
    Posts
    118
    Thanks
    9
    Thanked 20 Times in 19 Posts

    Default

    Update: I sent a couple of other documents, and they finally lifted the restrictions. I was able to create a withdrawal request again and hopefully they will process it soon.

  8. The Following User Says Thank You to vamius For This Useful Post:

    universal4 (15 March 2022)

  9. #8
    rmeeuwsen's Avatar
    rmeeuwsen is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Wisconsin US
    Posts
    342
    Blog Entries
    10
    Thanks
    255
    Thanked 118 Times in 94 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by vamius View Post
    Update: I sent a couple of other documents, and they finally lifted the restrictions. I was able to create a withdrawal request again and hopefully they will process it soon.
    Lucky you. Keep us posted!

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •