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    Don't understand why he hasn't yet apologized. What is he waiting for?

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    Ok,

    Well again thanks for everyones support.

    I still have faith in the system..

    With his lack of reply here in public I am 100% certain he will be revolked.

    I know it will happen come Monday morning.

    Come Monday morning it will be nice to see him gone.

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    I agree Steve, and i also understand Ricks position. But i have also seen him here numerous times, right now as a matter of fact, and nothing.....he doesn't even come into this thread from what i can see?

    Doesnt care, and nor should we!

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    I am not exactly sure what the session time is set at on the board....

    ....and I agree the lack of some sort of response is fairly damning....

    ...but again, we do not currently know if his responses have been private ones to Steven and or Michael, so we have no choice but to sit tight and see what they have to say.

    I totally agree that a response should be posted.

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    It has been only one business day since I sent alphonso69 a formal message requesting his response (actually slightly under that if you look at time of day sent).

    One of my responsibilities is to make sure formal actions from GPWA administrators occur in a manner that is most likely to move the industry forward in a positive direction. If we take as a background assumption that someone confronted with copyright infringement in a serious manner is presented with a crossroads in their business operations -- deciding to operate reputable going forward vs. deciding to continue operating disreputably -- then it is in everyone's interest to try and move that decision-making toward the reputable path.

    This can be a serious change in approach and thinking, and serious changes sometimes require taking a hard look at oneself and one's situation. In addition to the private message I sent on Friday, I am now making additional efforts to contact this webmaster in hopes of hearing more about the situation from his perspective and with hope of steering his decision on how to proceed in a positive direction.
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    I keep posting here and then not hitting the reply button because I am torn.

    I can understand that there should be due diligence and I know Steve agrees after talking to him on the phone. To put things in a better place is admirable as well. I know that works sometimes and we all end up feeling good about that.

    A big part of the aggrevation comes from the webmaster reading and not responding. That would make anyone aggreived.

    So at what point do we take action. Should we put a time frame on the timliness of a reply ? I think Steve had mailed him days ago too with no reply? The proof is clearly therer. The reason I say this is because this is serious and in the constant battle we go through over and over again requires swift punishment.

    So point is, I'm still torn lol.

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    Thanks Mojo and Steven....

    Yeah he is also being contacted at CAP and various others....

    No reply from him on various fronts...

    Do not know what else to add - but i can assure you no reply will come from him at anytime. I am sure on this...

    Well we can only hope right!

    While this gets resolved i still have another webmaster who has stole the same content and i cant get him to even remove it. His host will not reply, and neither will poker stars yet.

    I am plagued with content thieves and content sellers who send duplicates.

    Giggles is the only honest writer i have had to date.. LOL

    I guess that's my fault for trusting Forum members..

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    Whilst i support Steve 100% in this, i also believe that there has to be a trial too.

    A deadline has to be set and adhered to.

    Perhaps the guy is putting his evidence together and hoping to prove a case in his defence?

    Perhaps he has been subject to the issues that steve and others have in the past, perhaps he is legit and has been done over himself by a writer or something.

    Perhaps he is scared to come along and discuss until he has the evidence to to show he is innocent but does not want a war of words until.

    Now i am not sticking up for him or anything at all like that, however, just thinking of possibilities thats all.

    We have to be fair surely and not act like a kangaroo court.

    In fact i would hazard a guess that if this guy was just booted out without a fair chance that a good many members would not want part of it and walk themselves.
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    I agree with what mojo said. Why is it everyone is trying to be 'polically' correct and worry about the cheating thief?

    The proof has been presented and his silence alone is enough to show the he don't give a crap about what he did to Steve and the fact the respected members have to go thru this stuff is disappointing to me personally.

    I guess until you are the victim (as I have to deal with spammers scrapping and doing other crap to me for years) you can't understand how it feels. It's not fair to Steve nor us legit webmasters. End of rant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalkie View Post
    In fact i would hazard a guess that if this guy was just booted out without a fair chance that a good many members would not want part of it and walk themselves.
    Hey Paul,

    Not to pick on you buddy, but I just wanted to add that this reminds me of how folks will allow a murder to stay alive on death row for years leaching off the tax payers and making other lives miserable. The point is....if you have a death penalty (which I personally do NOT agree with) then USE it. Why have rules and regulations if you bend them to 'look' like you are doing the right thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GamTrak View Post
    I agree with what mojo said. Why is it everyone is trying to be 'polically' correct and worry about the cheating thief?

    The proof has been presented and his silence alone is enough to show the he don't give a crap about what he did to Steve and the fact the respected members have to go thru this stuff is disappointing to me personally.

    I guess until you are the victim (as I have to deal with spammers scrapping and doing other crap to me for years) you can't understand how it feels. It's not fair to Steve nor us legit webmasters. End of rant.
    Robin, did you aim that at me?

    If so why, when i made my reasons for why we need to give him a chance quite clear.

    I am 150% for banning him if he does not appear within a set deadline, however i am 200% in favour of this being unfair if he is not given a period to answer!

    I will be the first to slate him if he falls short, but for gods sake lets be a fair organisation not a bunch of unreasonable people!

    If it was not aimed at what i just said then i am sorry and i will wind my neck in ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GamTrak View Post
    I agree with what mojo said. Why is it everyone is trying to be 'polically' correct and worry about the cheating thief?

    The proof has been presented and his silence alone is enough to show the he don't give a crap about what he did to Steve and the fact the respected members have to go thru this stuff is disappointing to me personally.

    I guess until you are the victim (as I have to deal with spammers scrapping and doing other crap to me for years) you can't understand how it feels. It's not fair to Steve nor us legit webmasters. End of rant.
    Have been a victim and do understand how it feels in more ways than one and i stated i fully support Steve in his campaign.

    But wanting due process is not politically correct it is just common fairness imo and its how we operate in our respective countries.

    Also Robin not sure the death row analogy is the best to use, too many people all overthe world on death row have been found innocent after years on death row.
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    I think Robin was just saying we need to tune the process a bit. It does sound like we are being chastized for wanting swift action. The reason for the aggrevation is due to the webmaster ignoring this while we all see he is here. It is not directed at individuals in this thread.

    if he is not given a period to answer!
    The question is what is the time period?

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    Well it seems that 7 days is a decent enough period for a start, then if the op requires a little more and can shed some light on the situation for why he does then he should be allowed more within reason!

    Can anyone really disagree that a period should be set?

    After all, it was only a few weeks ago when a similar issue came up and the op was found to be as much a victim too!
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    The what if? Aside from the obvious Aphonso69 steals content. What if I suggest Alponoso69 works in unison with a popular AM dragging private discussions and content from the GPWA, placing it on hundreds of sites as hidden text? (Behind images shows in the source code but is not viewable)

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    The webmasters who steals content are usually doing more than one thinks. I do not view Steve’s concern just a matter of content theft. Alphonso69 is involved in many other slick deceitful tricks that are unwelcome here as they are at CAP ( a member there as well).

    However, I will reserve my right of exposing this AM as it is the GPWA right to prolong Alphonso69 explosion. Furthermore, I will change my what if? to whatever? I have already taken swift and responsible action against Alphonso69. IMO the GPWA should have thrown him out the second GFPC grievance was known. I will spare the AM and contact the program personally.

    But wanting due process is not politically correct it is just common fairness imo and its how we operate in our respective countries.
    Not so...In the U.S home invasion is sometimes meant with a gun the questions are asked latter providing the burglar is still alive.

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    Or should we say, hey look, he copied me and bin him?

    Thats what they did to witches in the dark ages over here, funnily enough they were not all witches after all and many a life was extinguished for reasons that were not valid.

    Not chastising anyone, just making a point that we should be reasonable and just otherwise we are no better than the bad guys!
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    I am saying that if there is clear-cut proof such as there is here, we need to consider that as well.

    I think you are being extreme in the witch hunt scenerio. If a criminal is loose on the street he is arrested and then given a trial. We don't let him continue to be a criminal because his trial date hasn't come up yet.

    Just giving more scenerios here.

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    Everyone makes such good points. Man i get torn on both sides.. LOL.

    Hopefully this thread helps bring about a new policy towards members who steal content.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    I am saying that if there is clear-cut proof such as there is here, we need to consider that as well.

    I think you are being extreme in the witch hunt scenerio. If a criminal is loose on the street he is arrested and then given a trial. We don't let him continue to be a criminal because his trial date hasn't come up yet.

    Just giving more scenerios here.
    Exactly, arrested and given a trial!

    So in our case, perhaps suspended and allowed time to offer a defence before we make a vote!
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