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    Sorry for misunderstanding.

    There is just quasi logic following the timeline of the story.

    At v1 they came with the idea that only people who (i) have (ii) transacted the bitcoins during near past can claim the btc.

    Then a lot of people were bitching about it ofc. At this point I stopped looking at it as well until yday

    So they came with v2, which was an extension of the term and people got few more weeks to make the address active by sending money out.

    So the "logic" was to give people time to activate their accounts, but it misses the original point, because everyone rational will do it and people just clog the BTC network. I do not think it was intentional, but it was the fee attack.

    The flawed logic therefore is like if a corporation decides to reward the loyal customers who bought something during the last month. But it pissed off the other and even bigger customers. So the company changes the approach and lets everyone to be a loyal customer if they buy during xmas. But the flow of customers then causes a traffic jam.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progger View Post
    Sherlock,why u dont open a Btc Info page ? With your know how...put some casino ads on it and let it run..

    For a newbie is it not so easy to jump on the train...good resources are rare.


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    I have my own small forum, which was a pro gambler forum in the past when I was making money that way. I kept it alive while I switched into affiliate business and now I transform it into cryptoforum at least partially. But the forum is long closed and only for a few people. There are some banners, but I do not mind the money there. I do not want traffic there. I am making maybe 5 accounts annualy per year, but I think meanwhile I ban 5 other people, who can not stay on topic or who are struggling on personal level, because they think they are good enough and they can just live passively from passive income.

    Why I am not doing as a regular site I have few reasons for it:

    I hate talking to newbies; look at your newbies friends who bet at 1xbet. You explain it to 1st, 2nd, 10th... then you start to be cynical. Then you are desperate. Then you just want to kill yourself. I do not have endless energy to do a website for anyone or give info to anybody. People love to argue with shallow knowledge. And to have a static noninteractive website about crypto is just too limiting, because nothing is certain and everything has to be corrected. I rather focus on concrete people. It has higher ROI. Last time I persuade a dev from one poor country [I found him on GPWA btw] to go into crypto. It took me a lot of time, I even traveled to the country, spent 14 days there, but now he is fully into it, he works for me and he is giving me some non bullsh1t info. That is much better than some extra money.

    I also have way too much money in cryptos, so I need to care about my bank. People who present crypto or people who develop crypto are nowadays not the people who usually have the crypto. Look I was wrong about Andreas. I was so wrong about him (and I wrote it wrongly even here). His talks are nice, but he is broke af. Core devs are also broke. Either I write the article somewhere or I check my stats at some crookaffiliate or I for example find some lastminute giveway at 1AM like tonight. I can do only one thing from those 3.

    The UB giveaway that I just barely missed is worth of half a year of my aggregate gambling affiliate income. And I am 99.9999% sure I am not able to even to 10% of my gambling affiliate income at any other niche ever. I am trying to outsource as much as I can, but some things are hard to be outsourced and also the more people I pay the more responsibility I have.

    Even with the stupid bitcore and esp. byteball airdrops I missed during last year more than my affiliate income. And I am losing many other opportunities. Why I did not pay attention to RAI, XVG or ADA? Because I have no time already. I am letting go even websites that generate money.

    I am advising for example to another one of my employees who does a cryptowebsite for himself. After all I started to pay him in btc, we went through the classic nonbeliever -> curious -> hardcore stages. I always liked to be as much close to the core of information or action as possible.

    I am rather trying to do several within the crypto itself. I am betting on certain way how the things will go. For example if the LN goes ever alive, I for sure want to have a LN hub or hubs. Generally I am interested in (nontechnical) crypto-infrastructure and in connection to the financial world. But the most valuable infrastructure is always the trustworthy people.

    Crypto is incredible, truly. I was so happy when I read that Dan for example went into mining. The leap of faith is always hard. Online gambling was that amazing 20 years ago (from what I heard) and 10 years ago was still awesome. The energy is moving. Gambling affiliate biz is becoming a dessert, but something else is flourishing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMM View Post
    no no. I understand. Just mean if you know the reason behind it, cause just don't get the logic behind it.
    The logic was that they wanted the token to be for active transactors - not long term holders.
    It's not particularly good logic ... but that's their claimed reason and focus.

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    Of course the fact that this "logic" means they can award themselves "free" tokens from the HODLers and become rich overnight is just a small side effect of their logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGamblersClub View Post
    I check my stats multiple times per day 7 days per week. Christmas was no exception!
    Yes, you've described me to a tee!

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    (3) had activity (outgoing) between block 494,000 and 502,271
    they just edited the number
    the clownshow goes on, so anybody can still claim
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    Thanks Sherlock!

    I assume they extended it so it will match their pre-estimated date.

    So I need to move ALL my btc to new wallet for that?
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    Time is until here is https://blockchain.info/ block 502,271

    Yes, you have to move coins to new address or wallet. Just send whole balance there or move address to address.
    Fees are now very low, like 50 sat/B in 1st block.

    If you did not claim your BTG or Bitcore, you can do it right after you move btc. Best is to do it through coinomi wallet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Time is until here is https://blockchain.info/ block 502,271


    If you did not claim your BTG or Bitcore, you can do it right after you move btc. Best is to do it through coinomi wallet.
    Yes, planned to do that (btg). Will check how. Actually haven't even heard of Bitcore
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMM View Post
    Yes, planned to do that (btg). Will check how. Actually haven't even heard of Bitcore
    Hey, that's very interesting. I've also never even heard of Bitcore before

    I wonder how much more Cryptocurrencies there will be throughout the world?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Time is until here is https://blockchain.info/ block 502,271

    Yes, you have to move coins to new address or wallet. Just send whole balance there or move address to address.
    Fees are now very low, like 50 sat/B in 1st block.

    If you did not claim your BTG or Bitcore, you can do it right after you move btc. Best is to do it through coinomi wallet.
    Blockchain (https://blockchain.info/) is a very good and reliable Bitcoin wallet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMM View Post
    Yes, planned to do that (btg). Will check how. Actually haven't even heard of Bitcore
    Bitcore (BTX) is a total shitcoin. There is nothing special about it. But sadly it was airdropped twice to BTC holders and is giving weekly interests + random airdrops to BTX holders. So it has value and the value is rising. So we are all forced to deal with it somehow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post

    If you did not claim your BTG or Bitcore, you can do it right after you move btc. Best is to do it through coinomi wallet.
    F***, seems I need to do all that if i was using 2FA wallet: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2424484.0

    Anyone knows an easier way?

    P.S. They updated it even more to 502,300
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    It sucks completely. This is why I do not need things like 2fa wallet, multisig or Segwit addresses. It is all nice, but the forks and other things are not compatible with those great features.

    This is the dark side of softforks, where nobody is being forced to upgrade, so then there are so many versions.

    Actually this is a strong argument against bitcoin (and also for bitcoin). Not that some microexchange had hot wallet hacked.
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