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    Default Hi Renee, stats concern

    After giving up 100% on casino rewards because they were not converting for me, I decided because now that I know what im doing in regards to SEO etc, to give Casino rewards another shot. On my site, www.samthecasinoman.info I have put casino rewards casinos in a variety of places to promote free spin offers and deposit bonuses.

    With that being said, I have finally gotten around to checking my reward stats for the last 4 months. Here is a close estimate of what I see ( last 4 months total )

    clicks - over 300
    Downloads - under 25
    Sign ups - 0

    Its unfortunate that I show such poor results for your group of casinos time and time again. I'm sorry but they have to go and be replaced with anything else. I simply no longer trust the reporting for casino rewards. Nothing personal but pretty well every other casino on my site has converted at least a few players over the last 4 months. Rewards has not. I find this odd and such rave reviews from fellow affiliates too. Shame. I understand something like an ezboard forum not converting, but a page rank 2 site with over 900 hits over the last 2 months shows something is in error.

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    Free spin promotions from Casino Rewards

    I just wanted to add that even the key phrase above puts me on page 3 of google. That in itself shows the effort i've put in for the rewards group.
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    Hey Chris,

    Sorry to hear about your dilema here!

    I am leaving for Vegas in a few hours so I have to make this short but promise to get in touch with you when I get back.

    Different programs always work different for affiliates but I can say Rewards are honest and do convert for me.

    There are a few things I maybe able to help you out with on these issues. Hang in there my friend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumacat View Post
    After giving up 100% on casino rewards because they were not converting for me, I decided because now that I know what im doing in regards to SEO etc, to give Casino rewards another shot. On my site, www.samthecasinoman.info I have put casino rewards casinos in a variety of places to promote free spin offers and deposit bonuses.

    With that being said, I have finally gotten around to checking my reward stats for the last 4 months. Here is a close estimate of what I see ( last 4 months total )

    clicks - over 300
    Downloads - under 25
    Sign ups - 0

    Its unfortunate that I show such poor results for your group of casinos time and time again. I'm sorry but they have to go and be replaced with anything else. I simply no longer trust the reporting for casino rewards. Nothing personal but pretty well every other casino on my site has converted at least a few players over the last 4 months. Rewards has not. I find this odd and such rave reviews from fellow affiliates too. Shame. I understand something like an ezboard forum not converting, but a page rank 2 site with over 900 hits over the last 2 months shows something is in error.

    Thank you.
    It is unfortunate, but I have a question - you always say how much you hate the free spins bonuses because they don't convert for you, yet you push those for our casinos....

    Why?

    As you said, it is unfortunate, but it's just the way it works sometimes - some places convert for some and don't convert for others. I wish you had converted players even just so that I could prove you wrong, that the free spins promotions do in fact work, because they do and as you also mentioned, there are "rave reviews" to back me up from other affiliates.

    Where is most of your traffic coming from? If it's coming from the US, they will not be able to even download since we don't accept new US players. If this is the case, and most of your traffic comes from the US, perhaps you'd like to enter a URL in the bounce back link section of your account. That way they will be redirected to a link of your choice (I would suggest a URL within your site showing them places that accept US players).

    I find it pretty offensive that you would accuse the reporting to be "untrustworthy" because your traffic is not converting for our brands. I can assure you that if we were in the business of ripping people off that we wouldn't have been around for as long as we have and you would have seen many more complaints by now.

    As it stands, we are in our tenth year of operation, and plan to be here for many more.

    If you'd like some suggestions on casinos that do not offer the free spins, please let me know.

    Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumacat View Post
    Free spin promotions from Casino Rewards

    I just wanted to add that even the key phrase above puts me on page 3 of google. That in itself shows the effort i've put in for the rewards group.
    Do you have the stats to show how many people search for the phrase "Free spin promotions from Casino Rewards"?

    I'd be interested to see the numbers..

    And are you ranking in google.com?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdjoe View Post
    Hey Chris,

    Sorry to hear about your dilema here!

    I am leaving for Vegas in a few hours so I have to make this short but promise to get in touch with you when I get back.

    Different programs always work different for affiliates but I can say Rewards are honest and do convert for me.

    There are a few things I maybe able to help you out with on these issues. Hang in there my friend.
    Thanks Joe

    Your input is much appreciated.
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    Thanks Renee and Chris,

    Thats what makes forums and frienships good.


    Everyones input has some value for us all.

    Chris, just hang in there till I get back and we'll talk and hopefully if we all work together, you'll see some improvement.
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    It is unfortunate, but I have a question - you always say how much you hate the free spins bonuses because they don't convert for you, yet you push those for our casinos....
    after doing research on the promotions I decided to do them in a different way. I don't promote them as no deposit bonuses. I promote them as free spins with a chance to earn a nice bonus on a deposit.


    Do you have the stats to show how many people search for the phrase "Free spin promotions from Casino Rewards"?

    I'd be interested to see the numbers..

    And are you ranking in google.com?
    Honestly, nobody will search for that, I just wanted to show you its been on my front page for awhile. Enough to show up in google on the first few pages

    I find it pretty offensive that you would accuse the reporting to be "untrustworthy" because your traffic is not converting for our brands. I can assure you that if we were in the business of ripping people off that we wouldn't have been around for as long as we have and you would have seen many more complaints by now.
    You are right, I should have worded it different. I mean I find it difficult to understand why they are not converting. Why they get so many clicks and a few downloads but not one single sign up.

    Hey Chris,

    Sorry to hear about your dilema here!

    I am leaving for Vegas in a few hours so I have to make this short but promise to get in touch with you when I get back.

    Different programs always work different for affiliates but I can say Rewards are honest and do convert for me.

    There are a few things I maybe able to help you out with on these issues. Hang in there my friend.
    You da man Joe, I am convinced you are one of the reasons I was promoting them as they are on your sites. I know you know what you are doing and test affiliate programs. Yet I am simply baffled. Enjoy your trip, win big money and we'll chat when you come back
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    Thanks Chris!

    What we have here in this thread is 3 of the nicest/best affiliates/AM's in the biz.

    If we can't help eachother out it can't be done lol.

    Sorry for the delay Chris.....will catch you for sure next week


    Joe

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    Quote Originally Posted by pumacat View Post
    after doing research on the promotions I decided to do them in a different way. I don't promote them as no deposit bonuses. I promote them as free spins with a chance to earn a nice bonus on a deposit.




    Honestly, nobody will search for that, I just wanted to show you its been on my front page for awhile. Enough to show up in google on the first few pages
    So it shows on the first few pages in google for that search term?
    If noone searches for it, that means noone will find it, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by pumacat View Post
    You are right, I should have worded it different. I mean I find it difficult to understand why they are not converting. Why they get so many clicks and a few downloads but not one single sign up.
    Again, this could be the country that your traffic is coming from.. You didn't mention which that is?

    Quote Originally Posted by pumacat View Post
    You da man Joe, I am convinced you are one of the reasons I was promoting them as they are on your sites. I know you know what you are doing and test affiliate programs. Yet I am simply baffled. Enjoy your trip, win big money and we'll chat when you come back
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    Pumacat if you promote free spins the word says it all : free to try so you need just a lot more traffic before you will get one that will play a bit longer.
    Besides that there is a chance that those players already have an account at a particular CR casino but have forgotten. If you explain how players can win a nice signup bonus you are on track.
    But with rev.share you can be lucky or not, I had a player that played roulette for 30 bucks and wagered 400k so my share was 4k, CR never earned that amount from this player.
    That's why this program is so cool because you will never know what hit ya !


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    Regardless, I am a man of odds and 300 clicks and no sign ups makes it strange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumacat View Post
    Regardless, I am a man of odds and 300 clicks and no sign ups makes it strange.
    You still haven't answered my questions....

    1 - It shows on the first few pages of google for that search term, but if noone searches for the term, then noone will find it there right?
    2 - Which google does it rank in? .com, .ca, .az?
    3 - Where does your traffic come from? If they are from the US then that would explain why there are no signups since we don't accept new US players and if they click on our banner they get shown a "Sorry we don't accept players from your region" message, unless you have the bounce back link setup.

    What other keywords does your site rank for (that people are searching for) and in which search engines? Perhaps if I know the answer to that I will be able to give you something that will convert for that in particular, something targeted.

    Targeted campaigns should always work better than general ones.

    If you'd prefer to email me this info, please do so. I'll help as much as I can and this info is something that will help me to help you better.
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    Renee hi

    the isreali clients reported they can no longer deposit with entropay visa

    to casino rewards group . can u advise on bank transfer details please .

    for the following casinos - phonecian , bjballroom , and ukcasinoclub

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by FIRSTCLASS View Post
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    the isreali clients reported they can no longer deposit with entropay visa

    to casino rewards group . can u advise on bank transfer details please .

    for the following casinos - phonecian , bjballroom , and ukcasinoclub

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    Hey there

    The details for each banking method can be found here: http://www.casinorewards.com/main/banking.asp

    I believe the wire details can be found from inside the software - so when the player logs into their casino account they can go to the banking section and choose "direct bank transfer" and the information will be there...
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    Quote Originally Posted by pumacat View Post
    Regardless, I am a man of odds and 300 clicks and no sign ups makes it strange.
    Hey mate

    I've posted a few questions...

    I'll give it another few days and if I don't hear from you I'm going to assume that you're not wanting help anymore. Let me know if this is not the case.

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    I just want to add my two cents if I may.
    Here is my stats for the past 3 months

    September - 139 clicks 12 downloads 1 sign up
    October- 331 clicks 19 downloads 1 sign up
    November- 207 clicks 14 downloads 0 sign up

    $1.31 is my total earning for Nov and 0 for Oct & Sept.

    In all honesty, I do trust Renee, Rewards but can see why Chris feels this way. I also know I dont work as hard as others and that is my own fault.

    I will say I have had some good months.
    Hang in there Chris and good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stemat View Post
    I just want to add my two cents if I may.
    Here is my stats for the past 3 months

    September - 139 clicks 12 downloads 1 sign up
    October- 331 clicks 19 downloads 1 sign up
    November- 207 clicks 14 downloads 0 sign up

    $1.31 is my total earning for Nov and 0 for Oct & Sept.

    In all honesty, I do trust Renee, Rewards but can see why Chris feels this way. I also know I dont work as hard as others and that is my own fault.

    I will say I have had some good months.
    Hang in there Chris and good luck.
    Hey Stemat

    Which country does most of your traffic come from?
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    Hey chicky,
    sorry I havent answered anytime earlier. My traffic comes from US and UK but I would say more US.
    I just dont get why all the downloads and no players.

    I do agree with Joe as he stated, nicest/best affiliates/AM's in the biz
    I just want to see players.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by stemat View Post
    Hey chicky,
    sorry I havent answered anytime earlier. My traffic comes from US and UK but I would say more US.
    I just dont get why all the downloads and no players.

    I do agree with Joe as he stated, nicest/best affiliates/AM's in the biz
    I just want to see players.

    Cheers!
    I would say that since we don't accept new US players this would explain it.

    I'll go through this again just to make it 100% clear and hopefully will resolve some of the confusion that a few of us have.

    So, we do not accept new US players.

    What happens when a US player clicks the download button at one of our casino sites that you sent them to?
    They get sent to a page that tells them they are unfortunately unable to play at our casinos. This will count in your stats as a download.

    OR

    If you have your bounce back link setup, the player will be redirected to whichever URL you have entered there. That way you don't lose the player and have the opportunity to direct them to a place they are able to play at. This will still count as a download in your stats.

    If you are using the bounce back link to redirect the traffic back to a page inside your site that shows them places that accept US players, it may be a good idea to check the referral urls back to that page (in your google analytics or whatever you have setup on your domain) to see how much of the traffic is bouncing back from one of our sites - this might help determine that this is the reason you are seeing so little signups (or in puma's case, none).

    If you're not utilising the bounce back link, I would suggest to log into your account and put a URL in there. That way you're not losing any traffic that we can't accept.

    If anything still remains unclear, please let me know...

    I will also assume that pumas non-response to my questions means that most of his traffic is also coming from the US and that he no longer needs any info from me about this.. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    Cheers
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