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    Default Hiding aff-links and Meta-redirection

    Because I received some PM's in reference to my posting about hiding Affiliate links and using Meta redirection I decidet to start this as a new topic and post my opinions here... Don't got the time to answer all this PM's, but thanks for writing...

    First of all, I'm not an Search Engine Expert! My opinions are only based on my experience over the last years!

    In my point of view its very important to hide your affiliate links, eigther with using one of the many available linkmanager scripts, or to set up a Meta redirect.

    The benefit:
    - SE's don't actually see your original Aff links.
    - SE's count all links like this as Internal links and not longer as outgoing links..
    ( eg. if you have a page with say 20 direct affiliate links, the SE will count all those links as outgoing links... I think that I dont need to get deeper about that it will hurt you if you got lots of outgoing affiliate links on your pages) SE's could rate you as an Affiliate Linkpage, and in the worst case even bann your site....

    What to do about this:
    1.) using a linkmanagerscript... in most cases you got a simple adminsection where you can assign link ID's and modify the link what you want to redirect to..
    I giving you an example here how those scripts work on my site gamblingstart.com what is using this....

    with a linkmanager script you will replace aff links from eg.
    http://www.alljackpots.com/index.php?bTag=ajaff1137_4 ( if you're not registered with all jackpots you can use my aff-link to register... )
    to http://www.gamblingstart.com/linkto.php?id=259 what does nothing else than just redirect to the specified aff link above...

    You have to include now the
    http://www.gamblingstart.com/linkto.php?id=259
    on the place you had your aff link
    http://www.alljackpots.com/index.php?bTag=ajaff1137_4)
    on your site.

    now SE's don't see the affiliatecode anymore, insted they see even one more Internal link. So from the time you are replaced all your original affiliate ID's with the link out script link, you will increase immediatly your ammount of counted Pages (by sight from SE's)

    for an practical example just check the following link out, remember the outgoing links in my case here call linkto.php?id=xxx (that varies with the script you use, some call redir.phpgoto=xxx..... )

    Here is a linkcheck done wth the tool from seochat.com of my page
    http://www.gamblingstart.com/index.php?showcat=50 (microgaming casinos)

    In the results of this linkcheck you can see 111 internal links and 11 outgoing links. All the linkto.php?id= links are counted as internal links, even they do nothing else than redirect to the affiliate link!
    see here:
    http://www.seochat.com/?go=1&option=...mit=Show+Links

    if you scroll down the internal links you will see all my outgoing links (linkto.php?id=xxx) links counted as internal links! That are the hidden ones...
    Scroll now down to the outgoing links, one of them is an original and not hidden affiliatelink I still got on the page:
    http://www.mummysgold.com/index.asp?s=wgs11503&a=w ... Online Casino
    this one counted outgoing....

    I don't think I have to go further with this...

    If you don't want to use a linkout script you can use the following Meta redirection strategy to hide your affiliate links...

    you create for every affiliate linke a simple page with a meta redirection to the original aff-link...
    put this one in a folder you want, for an example: yourdomain/linkout/
    you can call your new page everything you want, for this example we will use all-slots.htm
    So the link you would have to include on your pages to link to allslots casino would be:
    yourdomain/linkout/all-slots.htm

    here is a simple "template" for your redirectpage (in our example all-slots.htm)...

    <#HTML>
    <#HEAD>
    <#title>All Slots<#/title>
    <#meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0;URL=xxxxhttp://www.alljackpots.com/index.php?bTag=ajaff1137_4">
    <#/HEAD>
    <#BODY>
    <#/BODY>
    <#/HTML>
    just remove all the #!!!! and replace title and aff-link.... I had to put the # in the tags to not redirect the whole thread....

    in the refresh tag there you can see the value: content="0 .... this specifies the time. 0 will redirect immediatly, if you change this to 1 the page will displayd for one second and then redirected... I would use the 0 no need to let your visitors wait and looking at a blank page for a second....

    So, I hope this post now helps to understand the redirection and affiliate link hiding....
    Like I said, its just my opinion that it is better and benefical to hide your affiliate links... Other webmasters may have a different opinion.... Why not post your opinion?

    I think its beneficial to hide your affiliate links, increasing your internal links and decreasing your outgoing links.....

    Good Luck
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    I think its beneficial to hide your affiliate links, increasing your internal links and decreasing your outgoing links.....
    I think it's beneficial on short term results. People can build a page with 200 redirect links, but a link farm won't bring any $$$.
    And people won't come back to visit the site twice.
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    I think it's beneficial on short term results. People can build a page with 200 redirect links, but a link farm won't bring any $$$.
    And people won't come back to visit the site twice.
    I think that 200 internal links are doing better than 200 affiliate links in the view of how the searchengines see your site. I don't talk about 200 links on one page, just the whole website...

    What's the difference to your visitors if they click on the affiliate link itself or click on the redirected link, they will notice no difference....
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    would you need a robots.txt in the ridirect page to tell the SE's not to look at that page
    cos then wouldnt it just look like a page with a redirect link on it and still look bad?


    again anyone with criticisms on how to make my site better please leave a post of PM me
    im really workin on it..

    www.thesportssolution.com

    one thing im trying to deal with is how to get people on the brand new message board and just start posting because its pretty dead but it will always be like that unless i can find a few brave souls to start postin! lol

    anyone ever deal with this before??

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    would you need a robots.txt in the ridirect page to tell the SE's not to look at that page
    cos then wouldnt it just look like a page with a redirect link on it and still look bad?
    Yes,you have to put (Disallow: /folderofyourredirectpages) in your robots.txt file what should be located in your root folder. There you disallow crawling the whole folder...
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    Anyone have any names of good redirect scripts that do the job and are free. Thanks

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    Thank you bonus casinos for sharing that with me..
    Seems like the affiliate programs should adapt by having individual landing pages for each affilaite.. the pages would track, and then redirect..

    THanks for the info.. because I haven't really thought about the effects of affiliate links on internal link calculations.

    Cheers!

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    Big Daddy,

    I had to delete your message...

    Yes the redirect worked....LOL...in fact I had to keep backing up from 9am until I could get in long enough to delete the post....lol

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    Hey Rick,
    That's too strange. I didn't know posting a refresh html code in my message would redirect the whole thread. That's sabatage man!!!! HAHAHAHA

    Sorry about that really.

    I see that bonuscasinos posted a redirect in quotes that doesn't refresh. Maybe that is what I should have done.

    I knew the refresh worked but I was wondering about the robots no follow code in the html. I'll just disallow the folders in the robots.txt and make it simple.

    Thanks,

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigDaddy
    I see that bonuscasinos posted a redirect in quotes that doesn't refresh. Maybe that is what I should have done.

    I knew the refresh worked but I was wondering about the robots no follow code in the html. I'll just disallow the folders in the robots.txt and make it simple.

    Rick
    Having some fun here with the redirects HUH?

    the robots.txt files should be enough, most of the engines look for this file, the noindex/nofollow metatag is used only by a few engines, other will ignore this metatag anyway....
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    Posts like this are what this forum is all about, brilliant post bonuscasinos, I'm slowly incorportating this on my own site.

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    Thank you for your super post bonuscasinos, I have redirects only on my home pages and didn't think the rest of my pages needed them - but I see now that it's time to get busy and switch them all.

    Copied your post and kept it for reference - with much appreciation

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    Default A better way to redirect

    Another thing you can do using a redirect is you can make your links LOOK better.

    http://www.mydomain.com/?refid=9812309

    Right, that's ugly. We all agree, right?

    Instead you can using a redirect make it all nice and pretty:

    http://www.bigslickpokernetwork.com/...nds/DoylesRoom

    Now my link looks pretty, but it also has a different effect on the reader. It says I'm recommending this site to them. It must be trustworthy.

    ?refid=lkjasdfhdsf doesn't have a positive psychological affect on the user, in fact it has the opposite effect. Many visitors to your site will take out the referral url.

    A SEO benefit is that any links with a ? may be overlooked. The Search Engine may only go up to the question mark and may not read in the query string. So your referral id might be dropped entirely.

    I use PowerLink Generator to generate my redirects. I won't spam you with the URL to buy it. But I recommend you find a tool like this. It not only makes my redirects more search engine friendly but it allows me to track hits to my urls by day, week, month, year.

    I can even setup a second link for the same casino:
    http://www.bigslickpokernetwork.com/...s/DoyleBrunson

    That way I can track links put in different locations to see which one is more effective.

    I've even had some of these links start to rate well for keywords with MSN Search. (I think Google is too smart for this.)

    Hope this helps other newbies...
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    Copied this also - thank you fittsy. Very helpful information which I will definitely act on and I'm not a newbie

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    Ntaus,

    Awesome.

    It makes me feel good that other experienced webmasters are benfitting from what I have to share

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    Thanks Bonuscasinos
    I'm working your meta redirect into my pages. Need to create a script for this job, it might take a while to complete.

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    glad to help...

    seems like everybody is being busy by now changing links and creating redirect pages...HUH?

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    I would really Like to Know if the affiliate link redirection status code is 200. Is it okay for the crawler?

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