Hold Bitcoin or Bitcoin Cash ?

**ocreditor** · 23 January 2018, 3:55 am

Originally Posted by PlayHunter

Perspective, not based on current valuations. It all depends on how soon and how well BTC will deliver with implementing its lightning network.

I see.. well I think it's quite hard to tell in short and long term... this what makes this so hard, because this crypto market is so speculative atm

**slotplayer** · 30 March 2018, 10:36 am

What is going on with the crypto's?

**zalozite** · 30 March 2018, 11:03 am

Market is dynamic. We ll se whats will happened. Some traders think its normal and again will beome high, mean crypto currencies, other think, that this was the higher level ( several months before). We will se whats will happened in future

**Jokerman99** · 30 March 2018, 11:46 am

Originally Posted by slotplayer

What is going on with the crypto's?

The arse is falling out of them obv.

**slotplayer** · 30 March 2018, 1:54 pm

Originally Posted by Jokerman99

The arse is falling out of them obv.

why though?

**Jokerman99** · 30 March 2018, 2:55 pm

Simple economics - supply and demand. There are currently more people looking to sell compared to those looking to buy.

There are lots of arguments and reasons why that may be the case, but the truth is nobody really knows.

**sweetbet** · 30 March 2018, 11:04 pm

I think that the whales are pushing down the price so they can accumulate more coins.

**DaftDog** · 31 March 2018, 12:08 am

Originally Posted by sweetbet

I think that the whales are pushing down the price so they can accumulate more coins.

How would these whales do that? Prices decrease if there is more selling than buying.

**PROFRBcom** · 31 March 2018, 12:49 am

Originally Posted by DaftDog

How would these whales do that? Prices decrease if there is more selling than buying.

You dump coins when the order book is thin to wipe out a lot of bids and lower the price.

Later, you use sophisticated algo buying to average in at a lower cost while affecting the market as little as possible. Or you buy privately off exchanges or in dark pools.

Same way the Wall St. crooks do it.

**sweetbet** · 31 March 2018, 2:21 am

Whales will use a tactic called rinse and repeat, this method can be extremely profitable to a whale if timed right. The holder with a large percentage of that coins volume starts selling off lower than the market rate, which in turn causes people to start panic selling. Then the whale will watch and re-buy back in when the price of the coin reaches a new low. Then just repeats this process accumulating more wealth, more coins, and more control over that coin.

Source: https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@...late-the-price

**safecasinosm** · 31 March 2018, 1:07 pm

Wait for tether news guys...
Prices will go down for sure, but no one knows when this will happen

**Sherlock** · 6 April 2018, 8:19 am

cloudbet accepts bcash now

**TheGooner** · 6 April 2018, 7:19 pm

Originally Posted by Sherlock

cloudbet accepts bcash now

Interesting.

Do you play at Cloudbet or affiliate with Cloudbet at all Sherlock?
There offering looks better than most in this space - but they're pretty much unknown to me.

**Sherlock** · 6 April 2018, 7:35 pm

I was playing there as test like 2-3 years ago. It was ok, well the live betting engine was sometimes falling down so nothing close to bet365 experience.

Cloudbet made me a nice money, but only from US traffic. Now from January is dead completely so I am taking them down. Not sure bc after SB or they starting to shave. Also maybe most money were made by one whale.

**BestBonusBets** · 7 April 2018, 12:15 am

BTC went 20x last year, so yeah it was due for a bear market.

**PROFRBcom** · 7 April 2018, 2:52 pm

Originally Posted by Sherlock

cloudbet accepts bcash now

It is called Bitcoin Cash, not bcash. Real supporters of Bitcoin Cash find "bcash" to be a pejorative.

Originally Posted by safecasinosm

Wait for tether news guys...
Prices will go down for sure, but no one knows when this will happen

I heard from someone big into crypto word that Tether was, in fact, legit. So who knows really other than the insiders and they surely aren't going to tell the truth (or be believed if they do).

**Sherlock** · 7 April 2018, 4:28 pm

This is crazy. It is not allowed to tell black people they are black, white that they are white, to woman is not possible to say they are weaker, to fat people is impossible to say they are fat... and now we might offend someone with not naming right his favorite cryptocurrency.

Roger Ver and bcash was one of the most funny moments of last year and with my gf we still show middle fingers at each other and shout bcash and laugh hard. So for me bcash=joy! As airdropped bcash whale I hope I have right to use that name I hope. It is offending to humor itself not to use it.

Tether might be legit or not, it is never ending conspiracy; but bitfinex who invented tether, just got almost 400M seized by Polish bank, because LATAM drug cartels have to be involved in it https://www.spidersweb.pl/2018/04/zb...okuratura.html (thank you anonymous gpwa poster who showed me this on another board, no it was not RZ).

**TheGooner** · 7 April 2018, 7:34 pm

Originally Posted by Sherlock

but bitfinex who invented tether, just got almost 400M seized by Polish bank, because LATAM drug cartels have to be involved in it https://www.spidersweb.pl/2018/04/zb...okuratura.html (thank you anonymous gpwa poster who showed me this on another board).

Another example of how Crypto is transparent and trackable ... unlike cash.
If drug cartels are stupid enough to to use crypto and leave tracks and have their funds seized then it's a positive for the crypto-space.

And yes - it is BCash - the tokens only value comes from being a fork of bitcoin and getting an instant user base.
BCash has done nothing since.

**Sherlock** · 21 April 2018, 7:24 pm

https://web.facebook.com/AntPoolBITM...73?_rdc=1&_rdr

Some BITCOIN CASH (BCH) investors may have noticed that Antpool has recently begun burning BCH by sending mining fees to a black hole address with each block mined. Twelve percent of the transaction fees earned by the mining pool are burnt. This is voluntary and we want to explain why this burning might be good for BCH as a whole.
The Bitcoin Cash blockchain is at the tipping point of becoming a widely used public blockchain. A very good example of the innovation happening on BCH is memo.cash. After the May 15th planned hard fork, more and more useful applications will be enabled on BCH, using re-enabled OP_codes and enlarged OP_RETURN spaces. Furthermore, the increased block size cap will prevent the risk of network congestion from deterring such apps to be built.
During the forthcoming wave of innovation, we believe that on-chain transaction volume will experience significant growth. The crypto economy is not only about BCH though, nor is it only about money. It is also about protecting freedom of speech and freedom of association. BCH should embrace innovations and the free market, and be supportive and inviting of all kinds of applications being deployed on the BCH blockchain. The Bitcoin Cash community should embrace the entrepreneurial spirit and treat any fee paying transaction as a customer. Even if those transactions are non-BCH tokens, and even if those transactions are not about the transfer of money.

**PROFRBcom** · 24 April 2018, 3:16 pm

Antpool is only burning chump change I heard. Remember, Bitcoin Cash fees are very cheap. Think, a penny a transaction. It is a publicity stunt of sorts. Still, it has been effective perhaps.

I'm not a Bitcoin Cash basher like it seems some people on this forum are. I realize everyone is entitled to their opinion. My opinion is that I'm not smart enough to know which coin will win, so I'd advise holding both.

Furthermore, I have taken the time to read Satoshi's original white paper. Bitcoin was intended to be "Peer to Peer Electronic Cash". Not "Digital Gold" like many very pro Bitcoin Core are claiming Bitcoin to be. I'm with Satoshi on this one. Make it available for the masses. Make micro transactions work. Let people buy coffee with their crypto-currency without exorbitant fees.

I don't mind the idea of digital gold. And if BTC fulfills that role, then so be it. I'm cool with that. If Bitcoin Cash evolves to be bigger however works as actual cash money... then I think it will, by Satoshi's definition, be the true Bitcoin chain and be deserving of the name.

Just my opinion

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