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    Default iGaming - the future of Africa

    Hello peeps,

    What do you think about the opportunities in Africa?

    The boom is here - but is it worth it in the long run?

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    some barriers:

    - **** internet speeds. users on mobile 3g/4g?
    - tech can be problem - slow connections, crappy 'not-so-smart' phones
    - avg revenue per customer => small. (eg i think bet9ja said it was like $25)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddm View Post
    some barriers:

    - **** internet speeds. users on mobile 3g/4g?
    - tech can be problem - slow connections, crappy 'not-so-smart' phones
    - avg revenue per customer => small. (eg i think bet9ja said it was like $25)
    Yep have to agree, average revenue per customer is very low. We get lots of sign ups, perhaps concert 1 in 10 and then they bet very very small.
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    I really do not think internet speeds in African cities are or will be a problem. This is 2020. I live in 3rd world, until 2015 I was struggling with internet anywhere in 3rd world, but no more.

    The difference nowadays is much more city/rural area. Almost half of ppl in Africa live in cities and they will all have decent connection. And they will account I guess for 80% GDP of Africa.

    Also "crappy no smart phones"?? Wtf? Decent phones are in range 50-150 USD (in Africa in the lower bracket). Those phones are at much higher level than anything 4 years ago. All people have it. Ddm have you been there? I think this is some stereotypical nonsense honestly. The same nonsense that one can see in the 3rd world towards 1st world.

    The only problem is the money. There are not so many desperate high-middle class people who want to gamble away their ****** up lives.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Also "crappy no smart phones"?? Wtf? Decent phones are in range 50-150 USD (in Africa in the lower bracket). Those phones are at much higher level than anything 4 years ago. All people have it. Ddm have you been there? I think this is some stereotypical nonsense honestly. The same nonsense that one can see in the 3rd world towards 1st world. .
    "Majorities in sub-Saharan Africa own mobile phones, but smartphone adoption is modest" says pew


    https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2...ion-is-modest/

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    Thanks for document for discussion.

    The article shows impressive numbers. 2 years ago - from data probably even older than 2018 - roghly 1/3 of people in sub_saharian africa had phones. Now weight-in old people, women (who will gamble less and have less mobiles), 50% people from poor rural areas who are even poorer than city inhabitants and count that in the 2+ years the smarthone penetration and quality of network went up significantly.

    Really the internet/devices are not a problem anymore where is a lot of people. That is my experience. But the poor people are no good for us.
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    That's also my opinion. The real problem is that they just lack the money to gamble.
    If you earn 5 or 10 USD every couple of days, you don't have much spare money to gamble with.
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    A lot of people seemingly think Africa is one country and lump every bad story about her together. South Africa is the most developed African country and we have one of the highest smartphone adoption rates in the world. 4G connections are pretty much standard and 5G is already being tested in certain cities.

    Kenya is fast catching up to South Africa and they too have a highly developed cell phone network, as do many other African countries who are slowly waking from their slumber.

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    I remember that when I started to bet online +- 15 years ago, the internet speed was usually 0.1-0.5 mbps with some crazy low FUP limit on data and betting was still possible.

    Nowadays anywhere in the world is a mobile signal even in extremely distant areas and everywhere is faster. Even the most remote areas or poor countries where I were and where is at least few hundred/tens people do have 3g mobile signal connected to satellite internet and it usually works above 1mbit. It is still enough for betting/normal online work. And this is total extreme in which less than 1% of population lives.

    My observation based on few countries is that in Latin America for example nowadays 4g internet with decent speeds is in nearly every village with few thousands of people. I think there does not exist a town with 10k+ people - even in sh1thole like Amazonia or Patagonia, where is not 4g internet. Africa will be a bit worse because is even poorer, but not much.
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    What I have experienced as a South African is the incredibly big sports betting market, which has always dominated alongside alcohol sales. I see a large transition of the mass african market from traditional sports betting, into games of chance i.e. betting on odds, particularly via mobiel which continues to be the main device of choice in africa.

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    Africans are quite gambling in terms of rates, but the size of deposits can be minimal, it all depends on which country you are targeting

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