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    Hi All,

    We are an SEO agency specialising in iGaming and Sports Betting.

    If you are looking for:

    • Backlinks in the following GEOs: UK, US, CA, ES, JP, AUS, NZ, DE, IT, FI, IE, SE, IN, etc
    • SEO Optimised Content in English
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    Drop me a message at andrew@bettormedia.co.uk or add me on Skype: https://join.skype.com/invite/edjFW4ifqnE2

    I can tell you more about the experience we have working in this industry and also about sites we used to own in the past which have been very successful.

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    Review of the company "Bettor Media"

    FYI, I reached out to these people.

    I talked to them, we agreed upon some sites, we proceeded.

    I asked, and was promised, that native English speakers would write the articles. I was greeted with articles that contained things like this:

    Gambling has given reason to multiple challenges, especially during the last 2 years. Legal offshore and problem gambling has heightened in prevalence, making an intervention something highly necessary, as a call for control in the long-term perspective of things.
    For this very reason, the ACMA filed paperwork and the procedures to go forward with the request of a site blocking. While it is not immediate; due to it taking quite a lot of evidence, the ACMA’s job is to collate such data and use it to contact the Aussie ISPs.
    It is believed by the ACMA, that this is the best way to educate users on the future threat and harm that can come to consumers if they do not ensure to gamble with regulated providers.

    Due to this fact, it attracts gamblers from all over the world to take part and make sure that they are able to take away a huge experience for themselves due to this."

    So I complained. I was again told this was absolutely written by a born and raised British person. I call bullshit on that.

    Moving on, they agreed to tidy up the articles, and did.

    When it came time to publish, they wanted payment in forms we do not pay in. We told them how we could pay, and they "made an exception."

    Next, we find out that these people expected us to pay up front, before any articles were published on any of the websites they claim to work with.

    I declined. We do not pay for links up front, certainly not from people who advertise on this sub with zero reputation or endorsements from existing members of the GPWA.

    I then found out that whoever posts here, is NOT in charge, and had a "boss" who I was put in a chat with.

    The boss again wanted me to pay half up front.

    I declined.

    This "boss" called it off and left the chat.

    End of story.


    Summary

    In short, these people have wasted my time and will likely waste yours.

    My advice is to avoid using their link building services.
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    Pretty weird that you dont wanna pay up front tbh why would a company do work for free when they have other paying clients

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    Thank you for your review of our company, it will certainly be taken into account when offering our best customer service to our other clients.

    However, we would have to disagree on some of the points you made.

    We also spent a lot of time and resources on working with you. Not to mention we also did the content upfront for free, by a native English speaker (which is not "bullshit", our writers are all in-house, we don't outsource content).

    All articles were amended by the same writer and were deemed to be fit for purpose by yourself.

    I think you have to respect the fact that we are an operating business with overheads and costs, therefore it is not always just as easy for us to accept post-payment on links, especially when we have not worked with a particular client before. However, we did propose the offer of 50% upfront, 50% post payment, which you declined.

    All of our existing clients respect how we operate and this has helped us build long-term relationships.

    I don't see anything wrong with having to deal with hierarchy? We are an SEO agency working within the iGaming industry, so obviously we are not just going to be a 1 man band.

    Judging from your posts, you seem to go after link sellers, so it is no surprise to us that you have this view of us and were sceptical of us.

    We were very polite in how we dealt with this matter, perhaps you could have been the same, it would have made the process a lot easier.

    Thanks.
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    Legit review. I am sure the community thanks you prof.

    @ andrew - u had 1 job Andrew + seems you failed miserably.

    also, ending with "thanks" after telling your potential customer how they should behave / express themselves [wtf] is very strange passive aggressive weirdness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olson1981 View Post
    Pretty weird that you dont wanna pay up front tbh why would a company do work for free when they have other paying clients
    I have never paid for a link upfront, nor do any of the gambling affiliates I communicate with daily with the exception of something like getting a link in a major international publication like Jpost, WAPO, New York Times, Guardian, etc.

    Furthermore, no one is "doing work for free" and I have no idea why you would think that is the case. Payment simply comes after publication. End of story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bettor Agency View Post
    However, we would have to disagree on some of the points you made.

    We also spent a lot of time and resources on working with you. Not to mention we also did the content upfront for free, by a native English speaker (which is not "bullshit", our writers are all in-house, we don't outsource content).

    All articles were amended by the same writer and were deemed to be fit for purpose by yourself.

    I think you have to respect the fact that we are an operating business with overheads and costs, therefore it is not always just as easy for us to accept post-payment on links, especially when we have not worked with a particular client before. However, we did propose the offer of 50% upfront, 50% post payment, which you declined.
    You literally just repeated the same story I wrote above in different words.

    I see no disagreement other than the quality of the writing. With regard to the writer being a native English speaker, we can let other webmasters decide for themselves based on but a handful of samples of "native English" speech that I posted above.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bettor Agency View Post
    Judging from your posts, you seem to go after link sellers, so it is no surprise to us that you have this view of us and were sceptical of us.
    You are correct. I do call out link sellers who suck. You are one of them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Bettor Agency View Post
    We were very polite in how we dealt with this matter, perhaps you could have been the same, it would have made the process a lot easier.
    At no point was I impolite to you or your boss.

    I am direct.

    There is a difference.

    I do not like wasting my time with bullshit.

    My review stands. I do not recommend Bettor Media / Bettor Agency services.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PROFRBcom View Post
    I have never paid for a link upfront, nor do any of the gambling affiliates I communicate with daily with the exception of something like getting a link in a major international publication like Jpost, WAPO, New York Times, Guardian, etc.

    Furthermore, no one is "doing work for free" and I have no idea why you would think that is the case. Payment simply comes after publication. End of story.
    that’s fine but why should they trust you, you’re just a person on a forum, it sounds to me like you’ve been pretty uncooperative here. I’ve always paid up front for my links or at least done part payment ����*♂️

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    I completely disagree with you. I prepaid 15k for 2021 and could not be happier with the results.
    We have been doing backlinking for the last 5 years, but the portfolio of links they offer is unique. Also Andy was really helpful even with matters outside this project. I will definitely hire them again!
    Good luck finding an agency with those prices, value and help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olson1981 View Post
    that’s fine but why should they trust you, you’re just a person on a forum, it sounds to me like you’ve been pretty uncooperative here. I’ve always paid up front for my links or at least done part payment ����*♂️
    You are factually correct.

    I do not cooperate when cooperation means handing money to someone up front for something they have not proven they can deliver.

    If you like to pay people for links in advance, good for you. To each their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul.torzel View Post
    I completely disagree with you. I prepaid 15k for 2021 and could not be happier with the results.
    We have been doing backlinking for the last 5 years, but the portfolio of links they offer is unique. Also Andy was really helpful even with matters outside this project. I will definitely hire them again!
    Good luck finding an agency with those prices, value and help.
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    OK Paul. Cool story bro.

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    �� imagine calling another affiliate out because it has new member under his name and not 2000 posts. Perhaps he just spends more time on his site than posting on here

    god what a sorry state of affairs this forum is coming to

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    Quote Originally Posted by olson1981 View Post
    �� imagine calling another affiliate out because it has new member under his name and not 2000 posts. Perhaps he just spends more time on his site than posting on here

    god what a sorry state of affairs this forum is coming to

    Imagine not realizing the point of the image and posting the garbage above instead... of working on your little cookie-cutter no-traffic websites.

    Follow your own advice buckaroo.

    But seriously, I can see why link sellers would want you to pay up front olson1981, they are worried if you can pay the bill lol
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    Hha sold one of those cookie cutter sites for 2m my friend so fortunately I don’t need to work on them anymore

    Also people in glass houses, when was the last time you updated your theme? Circa 2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by olson1981 View Post
    Hha sold one of those cookie cutter sites for 2m my friend so fortunately I don’t need to work on them anymore

    Also people in glass houses, when was the last time you updated your theme? Circa 2012

    So you sold a site for chump change years ago...

    Cool story bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROFRBcom View Post
    Review of the company "Bettor Media"

    FYI, I reached out to these people.

    I talked to them, we agreed upon some sites, we proceeded.

    I asked, and was promised, that native English speakers would write the articles. I was greeted with articles that contained things like this:


    So I complained. I was again told this was absolutely written by a born and raised British person. I call bullshit on that.

    Moving on, they agreed to tidy up the articles, and did.

    When it came time to publish, they wanted payment in forms we do not pay in. We told them how we could pay, and they "made an exception."

    Next, we find out that these people expected us to pay up front, before any articles were published on any of the websites they claim to work with.

    I declined. We do not pay for links up front, certainly not from people who advertise on this sub with zero reputation or endorsements from existing members of the GPWA.

    I then found out that whoever posts here, is NOT in charge, and had a "boss" who I was put in a chat with.

    The boss again wanted me to pay half up front.

    I declined.

    This "boss" called it off and left the chat.

    End of story.


    Summary

    In short, these people have wasted my time and will likely waste yours.

    My advice is to avoid using their link building services.
    Agreed with your commentary. Bettor Agency has been contacting me and my websites for months now. I do not work with link brokers.

    Bettor Agency is merely a broker which explains their payment policy and unsatisfactory content quality. However, when going direct to the website owners and circumventing the agencies - it is not unreasonable to pay upfront.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PROFRBcom View Post
    So you sold a site for chump change years ago...

    Cool story bro
    spoken like a man who’s too scared to prepay for links.

    however based off these exchanges I don’t blame them for refusing your business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by popopdc View Post
    However, when going direct to the website owners and circumventing the agencies - it is not unreasonable to pay upfront.
    Good point.

    Dealing direct does change up the scenario a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olson1981 View Post
    Pretty weird that you dont wanna pay up front tbh why would a company do work for free when they have other paying clients
    Depends on the reputation, if you dont pay then the link can be removed however if you pay uprfron and they dont post then you are shafted.. so the biggest risk taker is the payer each time,. most sites will accept payment after article has been published due to the huge amount of scams.. even then its still risky incase middleman doesnt pay publisher.

    Btw.. Most sites take payment after work is complete.. sending money to middlemen upfront is just insane
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    The quality of the writing 'weren't so good'.

    Links can be removed if the customer does not pay. However, payments cannot always be retrieved if the vendor does not complete the job.

    Not a good idea to prepay with new vendors without an established reputation.

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