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    Default Joreels connected to AffPower, Oceanbets, GTG?

    Is these same people? Would like to know.

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    Seeing that screenshot, they're having at least one guy that is affiliate manager for both brands.
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    I did a research and owner is same as Oceanbets. 3Gadz is the same too. The person is based in Israel. I can't confirm if this is AffPower, but I have a really bad feeling about this after making the research.

    Interesting to see MT SecureTrade Limited listed in here too:

    https://www.casinomeister.com/forums...amechance.html

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    Do you have some report of your research? It sounds interesting. The link with MT Secure Trade in that thread I don't understand.

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    Hi,


    I am the representative for Joreels, I am here to answer any questions you have on the brand.


    Joreels has absolutely NO ownerhip nor connection with Oceanbets or GTG. One of our affiliate managers used to work at Oceanbets and no longer works there.


    We are a regulated brand working on an IGC platform and really taking steps to run a properly managed and professional casino for both our players and affiliates.


    Hope this answers the question and should you have any further questions, feel free to PM me and I will happily help you out.


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    I got unofficial info from your ex-worker that you are the same guys - AffPower... What a pity

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    Hi Freespins,

    We are not owned nor have any connection to AffPower at all.

    I am not sure what an ex-worker has said but I can assure you we are not AffPower nor have any relation to them.


    The owners of Joreels had to go through a very extensive KYC of their history in order to be accepted to open an IGC brand as well as an extensive KYC process with LGA in Malta, which they have passed with no issue.
    I am not sure if you are familiar with IGC and the level of professionalism they exuberate but believe you me they would not allow a former rogue operator to run one of their white-labels as they are very careful who they let into their gaming software ecosystem.


    We are new, we have one of our affiliate team who worked at Oceanbets, but the ownership has absolutely zero connection to AffPower.


    We will be at AAC, should you want to meet us, you will see we are not AffPower and we will happily help meet you.
    We understand that in this industry affiliates are careful with new brands and we understand that rumors and gossip passes very quickly (many time unchecked), but we also understand that we are here to answer any questions just as any responsible casino should to the gaming affiliate community.


    Should you need anything, feel free to PM me and I will happily help you.


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    If I see the screenshot (http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/com...621d47fba383ac) at Affiliate Guarddog, it seems he was working for both at the same time.

    Of course everybody has its own employee policies, but I wonder why as a new brand you would take the risk to be associated with them in some way...

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    Owner is Josh G from 3GAdz and OceanBets, is that true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enzika View Post
    Owner is Josh G from 3GAdz and OceanBets, is that true?
    Mr Josh *, to be exact.
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    These guys also own and work for http://wolfaffiliates.com.

    Here are some info about them: https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/17786...sion-for-april

    100% scam.

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    I looked to see if there was an ownership connection from Joreels to AffPower, Oceanbets or GTG. I found no ownership connection. Former employee, yes, but you can't blame every employee if a program goes bad or has an issue. I think we are setting a bad precedence when we start doing that. Each program should be judged by their merits not exclusively based on an employees work history.

    I did meet with the owner of Joreels and I'm convinced the ownership is not the same. Joreels will answer any additional questions anyone may have and if there are any further details required from any member here, feel free to PM me, I would be happy to assist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    I looked to see if there was an ownership connection from Joreels to AffPower, Oceanbets or GTG. I found no ownership connection. Former employee, yes, but you can't blame every employee if a program goes bad or has an issue. I think we are setting a bad precedence when we start doing that. Each program should be judged by their merits not exclusively based on an employees work history.

    I did meet with the owner of Joreels and I'm convinced the ownership is not the same. Joreels will answer any additional questions anyone may have and if there are any further details required from any member here, feel free to PM me, I would be happy to assist.
    Can you provide the forum with information regarding who exactly the ownership is?

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    after some discussion on skype and research, i dont not think aff and ocean are connected.

    https://www.joreels.com/en/games/

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    With the greatest of respect to Anthony and the other posters who have asserted that they don't believe there to be any ownership association between JoReels and WolfAffililates/OceanBets, I have to respectfully disagree. I looked into this over the weekend as we're looking to compile a review for JoReels and I've just put an article together detailing what I found, which you can read here.

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    In some parts it is confusing, and it would be the best and very nice if Joreels can reply to that "revelation" from the last post here public in this thread and a clarification to the audience, because both sides have the right of a voice and this right is important, because as we all know, any relationship with AffPower, also only the rumor of a connection, is quasi the electric chair.

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    I contacted Joreels and they will make a post tomorrow to provide some clarification to the situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progger View Post
    after some discussion on skype and research, i dont not think aff and ocean are connected.

    https://www.joreels.com/en/games/
    I don't know. The owner of OceanBets became affiliate manager at another brands? That's kind of a weird move to me.

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    Hi Pogg,

    Nice to e-meet you. I am Josh and I am the owner of Joreels.

    You are correct, I did the domain registration for Wolf Affiliates. I am not the owner though. I was working at Oceanbets under contract for a year. I set up the affiliate program and was working affiliation and marketing. I do want to explain why the site is registered in my name. The original site crashed and to ensure a smooth flow of everything I promptly bought the domain to get things up right away. I was in charge and affiliates were rightly upset they had no backend. In hindsight, this misunderstanding could have avoided if I didn’t get it, but at the time I just wanted to quickly take care of the affiliates. Also, I had no idea the program would have these issues after I left.

    I can understand the GPWA’s community’s concern about the relationship, especially after the history of GTG and its brands, but I want to clearly state again, in NO way am I the owner of Ocean Bets. I also have NO ownership or affiliation in AffPower.

    I am available to further discuss any questions or concerns you may have. Feel free to contact me on skype for a chat. That goes for any affiliate here who has questions please contact me directly and I will be happy to talk with you.


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