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    Default Kentucky Seizes Domain Names of Internet Gambling Sites

    Interesting story coming out of Kentucky, where a circuit court judge has seized the domain names of 141 "illegal Internet gambling sites" and is demanding that the sites block access to the sites by Kentucky residents.

    “Unlicensed, unregulated, illegal Internet gambling poses a tremendous threat to the citizens of the Commonwealth because of its ease, availability and anonymity,” Gov. Steve Beshear said.

    “The owners and operators of these illegal sites prey on Kentucky citizens, including our youth, and deprive the Commonwealth of millions of dollars in revenue. It’s an underworld wrought with scams and schemes.”

    By seizing the domain names, Kentucky can require that the illegal casino operators use readily available technology to block their domains from being accessed in the Commonwealth.

    Beshear said Kentucky loses tens of million of dollars a year to online gambling, which is illegal in all 50 states. And, he said, the illegal activity has repercussions far exceeding its monetary losses to the Commonwealth.
    Full story here ... http://www.kypost.com/content/news/c...2-5713979b3d6c

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    Here's the court documuent ... last page includes the list of domain names.

    http://www.point-spreads.com/downloa...in%20Names.pdf

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    ATTEMPTS to seize might be a more accurate headline.

    Many of these are the actual gambling sites ... (taken from that list)

    ultimatebet.com, virtualcitycasino.com, yukongoldcasino.com, pitbullpoker.com, doylesroom.com, casinoclassic.com, absolutepoker.com, allslots., fulltiltpoker.com, bigtimebingo.com

    When I checked about 10 minutes ago - they all seemed to be online and working ...

    Perhaps the Kentucky circuit judge is about to learn the limits of their influence is a lot less than they thought ??

    I'll wait and watch ...

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    The title of the article (and the thread) isn't as accurate as it should be. Kentucky isn't trying to shut down the sites entirely. Instead, they are trying to make sure that the sites do not operate in the state of Kentucky.

    Some sites, like PartyGaming and 888.com, block all US players from using their sites. This suit looks to prevent all Internet gmabling companies from providing their services to Kentucky residents.

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    Help!! For a newbie for like me, what the heck is going on??

    I understand basically that the domain names for the casinos themselves (not all) are being taken by the state of KY. I understand that the casinos should have or will have re-direct links that will take the potential player to the "new" site should the old site be taken.

    Should I go through all my programs, grab the re-direct links and changed them out on all my sites?

    I know I don't have the traffic like all the veterans here and maybe I should throw in the towel now but I don't want to waste the months of hard work I put into all of this.

    What would you experienced affiliates suggest I do at this point? ( and don't tell me to throw in the towel! )
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    I would suggest to contact your aff manager to see if you need to change any links first.
    And don't panic, banning something instead of regulating it never proved a good tactics in history so far...

    You might want to check the similar thread over at CAP:
    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...es.29952.html?

    And yes, they took over 2 domain names so far....

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    Thumbs up Crazy

    This government is unbelievable. They have no way to stick their hand in the cookie jar to make them billions of dollars, so instead they make everyone suffer?

    I have worked with all types of affiliate programs not just gambling for over 6 years now and I'm really getting tired of the BS that just goes around and around and around.

    Look we understand that U.S sports organizations are the key factors behind all of this and I'm no genius but put two and two together and it does not take a brain surgeon to figure out who is evolved here. Those organizations would rather you place your wagers in the states because they are all in bed together.

    It makes me sick that they keep feeding everyone this bullshit like they are going to act and do something about what over a million people have been trying to change or even UNDERSTAND. What ever happen to our rights, and the rights of the citizens on the United Stats of America?

    The longer they procrastinate and sweep things under the rug, they are only pushing the industry more underground. Which is NEVER going to go away.

    So I say... man up and take your losses and let the U.S citizen decide how, when, and where to spend their hard earned money.
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    I'll come to the conclusion, I'll never understand the US law system. It never ceases to amaze me!

    I received an email from Star Partner saying, "Due to the Kentucky Court ruling on the seizure of online gaming domains we have had to make urgent changes to our websites domains.

    To minimize the affect on you, our valued affiliate, please log onto the affiliate section of starpartner.com to get the full details on what domains are affected by the ruling as well as what steps need to be implemented on your affiliate sites"

    However, when I log in, I can't see anything about the changes. Anyone help here?

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    So I get made redundant....get a job I think I can do good with and another bombshell drops!

    Reminds me of the time when EUIGA thing hit and everyone sh!t it about travelling to the USA for CAC. Personally I was well excited to hit Vegas once again and thought chuff it its a free trip to Vegas and if I get banged up its a story to tell the kids and I lose my anal cherry!!

    All joking aside, glad to see Red Flush is on the list!

    I can really comment too much on this just yet, we should know more tomorrow where we can figure out what steps need to be taken. Worse case scenario, we lose our domain but we obviously have others that can be used.

    I am obviously totally uneducated currently apart from what I have read prior to typing this. I will try and update as and when I can.

    I like this job too!

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    The two sites already taken over was at the registrar Enom, which I
    guess they didn't want the terror inflicted upon them, the US has come
    so well known for practicing. Shameful !

    But wouldn't releasing any domain name be up to ICANN??

    Wonder if by the US performing their 'terrorist' acts upon the offshore
    gambling businesses (and US citizens), couldn't that be considered trying
    to 'monopolize' the gaming industry?????

    I'm just thinking too much, ignore me!
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    So, what does this mean to us as affiliates? I think we can't lose sight of the responsibility we have to our players. Personally, I wouldn't recommend new deposits at these casinos or poker rooms until the threat is off the table.

    I guess it's easy for me to say that considering I'm facing Europe and don't market to the US. I feel for those who are affected.

    Let your players know the situation and warn them of potential problems. Wouldn't that add to the credibility of your site? or foster distrust?
    I'd be interested in knowing how are US facing webmasters are handling this.

    I can't believe they can grab the domains that easily. I remember when Bodog lost their domain not too long ago. My first thought was "wtf!" At the time I thought it was a dangerous precedent. If you can't reach an "offenders" juristiction then just pull their domain name! What of other countries started doing that to US institutions? really sad..

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    I can't see how an estate/province (KY) can have jurisdiction to order this seizure to registrars located in other places.
    Moniker for instance is in Florida.
    Why and how, they will be enforced by the KY rules?

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    I can't see how an estate/province (KY) can have jurisdiction to order this seizure to registrars located in other places.
    Moniker for instance is in Florida.
    Why and how, they will be enforced by the KY rules?
    They don't! But are hoping registrars simply surrender the domains. I personally do not believe the ruling enforcing but rather asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WagerX View Post

    Let your players know the situation and warn them of potential problems.
    I don't think players will have any problem, unless they are from Kentucky and online gambling is illegal there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doolally View Post
    I received an email from Star Partner saying, "Due to the Kentucky Court ruling on the seizure of online gaming domains we have had to make urgent changes to our websites domains.

    To minimize the affect on you, our valued affiliate, please log onto the affiliate section of starpartner.com to get the full details on what domains are affected by the ruling as well as what steps need to be implemented on your affiliate sites"

    However, when I log in, I can't see anything about the changes. Anyone help here?
    I also received this mail. When you login today, you see a list of casinos with changed direct links from .com to co.uk etc. But the text links have not been changed. I am not going to do considerable work in changing everything unless I understand that it is absolutely essential. We have, e.g. heard nothing from reward affiliates although also their sites (Blackjack Ballroom etc.) have been listed. So I am going to wait and watch the development.

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    If Kentucky gets away with this, I really fear for our businesses. What's to stop them from going after our domains next?

    I really hope the big players like Microgaming, Stars and FT sue their asses off, make an example of them for such stupid and devastating tactics. This definitely crosses the line of acceptable practices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nandakishore View Post
    I don't think players will have any problem, unless they are from Kentucky and online gambling is illegal there.
    I thought the ten States where online gambling was illegal were...
    Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Wisconsin, Washington.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thepokerkeep View Post
    I thought the ten States where online gambling was illegal were...
    Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Nevada, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Wisconsin, Washington.
    Thats 12!

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    LuckyPyramidCasino.com was seized and now a second domain name HighRollersLounge.com has its administrative contact information listed as Eric Lycan from the Commonwealth of Kentucky Justice Cabinet.

    While these brands are not all that popular, the effects of the news has online gambling operators scrambling. The entire industry has descended on Barcelona this week for parties and networking so the seizures have caught some operators off guard. News of the online gambling domain names is the talk of internet gambling conference EiG as you can well imagine.

    Several top brands that are in jeopardy include GoldenPalace.com, WSEX.com, SportsBetting.com, FullTiltPoker.com, PokerStars.com CakePoker.com, DoylesRoom.com and several others. Kentucky’s effort to steal online gambling domain names yesterday morning and the industry has had little time to react.

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    Another very visible name listed in the court order is microgaming.com. We can be pretty sure microgaming will put up a pretty strong fight against that one.

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