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    Casino City is a multinational company with locations in a couple countries, and with a registered firm Casino City Limited in the UK. In our case we were able to circumvent the issue by switching the corporation registered in their affiliate system from a US corporation to our UK registered firm.

    Not withstanding that, my view is that this whole change can be summed up as being a stupid business decision insofar as I can tell. At least at this point in time I do not have an explanation that justifies the change in a way that makes any sense to me.

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    I have to agree with Lots0 on this.

    No matter what the affiliate programs and big affiliates want people to think, the vast MAJORITY of affiliates are small affiliates that live paycheck to paycheck and could not afford to open an "offshore" account even if it was a viable solution.

    Affiliate programs that structure their program to take care of larger affiliates but could care less about the small affiliates (even though they pretend rather well) should be avoided since eventually they will make moves similar to this that hurts much larger numbers of affiliates.

    Not withstanding that, my view is that this whole change can be summed up as being a stupid business decision insofar as I can tell.
    I think this says it all.

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    Thank you for the feedback on this, of course, were not happy about the negative impact this decision has on our ongoing affiliate relationships and we have been trying to make this a smooth as possible for all our active affiliates. We would like to again express our sincere apologies for this undesirable change.

    Ladbrokes does not accept US players and although our USA based affiliates were promoting us to a non-US customer base, we still had to cut our ties. As a public limited company, we are constantly monitoring risks to our current and future business. In the light of this, working with affiliates directly or indirectly associated with the USA is regrettably perceived as high risk for our future business in a potentially regulated US market.

    All other affiliates remained unaffected and its business as usual.

    Although this only affects a fairly small amount of Score Affiliates, were still mindful about the impact it has. Should our decision have directly impacted you and you have not yet made contact with us, please contact us on affiliatequeries[at]ladbrokes.co.uk and we will be happy to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladbrokes_Score View Post
    Thank you for the feedback on this, of course, were not happy about the negative impact this decision has on our ongoing affiliate relationships and we have been trying to make this a smooth as possible for all our active affiliates. We would like to again express our sincere apologies for this undesirable change.

    Ladbrokes does not accept US players and although our USA based affiliates were promoting us to a non-US customer base, we still had to cut our ties. As a public limited company, we are constantly monitoring risks to our current and future business. In the light of this, working with affiliates directly or indirectly associated with the USA is regrettably perceived as high risk for our future business in a potentially regulated US market.

    All other affiliates remained unaffected and its business as usual.

    Although this only affects a fairly small amount of Score Affiliates, were still mindful about the impact it has. Should our decision have directly impacted you and you have not yet made contact with us, please contact us on affiliatequeries[at]ladbrokes.co.uk and we will be happy to discuss.
    so do what companies do and buy out their contracts.

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    Agreements broken, so you say I'm sorry, even if it affects the financial stability of your affiliates.

    May others who have agreements that affect the financial stability of your company treat you the same. Don't worrry, they will probably say they are sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slotplayer View Post
    so do what companies do and buy out their contracts.
    Agreed - Laddies need to put their hand in their pocket and pay up for the accounts, not just wipe them off.
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    Attention Ladbrokes (SCORE) - ON behalf of all affiliates

    You are a disgrace to the industry - shame on you.

    (side note) - If anyone wants to write up a story on this for me to explain how shaddy and rotten Ladbrokes treats affiliates, i will post on
    belosers.com site right beside Bewinners - If anyone has time - its the least I can do.


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    I just finished updating my rogue page for Ladbrokes: Ladbrokes Rogue

    Steve, feel free to link to it from belosers.com, or take what I've written and improve upon it -- whatever you want to do.

    Also, here are some links to a few additional discussions in case anyone missed them:

    http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/...ffiliates.html
    http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...ome-t5615.html
    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ffiliates.html
    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...-accounts.html
    http://www.pokeraffiliatelistings.co...ffiliates.html

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    Thanks Engineer - Yeah I am just not the best when it comes to writing on these topics. Hoping someone can rite me up a review of all this - anyone - wanna add a nice image as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ladbrokes_Score View Post
    Thank you for the feedback on this, of course, were not happy about the negative impact this decision has on our ongoing affiliate relationships and we have been trying to make this a smooth as possible for all our active affiliates. We would like to again express our sincere apologies for this undesirable change.

    Ladbrokes does not accept US players and although our USA based affiliates were promoting us to a non-US customer base, we still had to cut our ties. As a public limited company, we are constantly monitoring risks to our current and future business. In the light of this, working with affiliates directly or indirectly associated with the USA is regrettably perceived as high risk for our future business in a potentially regulated US market.

    All other affiliates remained unaffected and its business as usual.

    Although this only affects a fairly small amount of Score Affiliates, were still mindful about the impact it has. Should our decision have directly impacted you and you have not yet made contact with us, please contact us on affiliatequeries[at]ladbrokes.co.uk and we will be happy to discuss.
    This reply is like a slap in the face to those affected. Basically, they are only concerned about Ladbrokes and screw those affected by this. As the poster said "All other affiliates remained unaffected and its business as usual".

    Looks like another program will be allowed to display roguish behavior and nothing can be done and they continue doing business as ususal.

    Sort of remind me of RA buying up a bunch of brands and cross promoting them and sure enough like I suspected that once they took over VA and others that I would not make another dime and 3 years later that is the case. Sorry to go on a rant, but this business is BS so you either go with the flow or get out.

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    Nov 1 is the date that USA is dumped so naturally I get a mail:

    Dear Affiliate,

    See below for the LATEST LADBROKES CASINO GAMES that will be launched
    on the 6th November! Please click below for a full description of the
    game and links to SCREENSHOTS you can download and use in your
    website! ...

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    As if it wasn't bad enough without getting affiiate mail. Nice going.

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    In the process of adding them to Belosers.com - if anyone has other links I can reference so we can all cross reference.

    They are what I call "smegma"


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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaiter View Post
    Is this still in force?
    Yes, it is still in force and DEFINITELY not forgotten.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWaiter View Post
    Is this still in force?
    Yes, as Shay noted it is still in force and has not been forgotten. They do still have a number of US based affiliates, but those affiliates all have overseas accounts that are used for making affiliate payments. Something that makes sense for any larger affiliates in order to minimize banking and currency exchange expenses.

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    Still does not give confidence for non US affiliates either.

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    Question for affiliates: Were accounts terminated without the possibility of switching payment options to outside of US? Termination seems very harsh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by grem View Post
    Question for affiliates: Were accounts terminated without the possibility of switching payment options to outside of US? Termination seems very harsh.
    I'm not aware of accounts being terminated where the affiliate had a bank account outside of the United States. At least in the case of Casino City, as I stated above, that was sufficient to continue a business relationship.

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