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    My Heart goes out to all the families of this tragic event .. May the Lost souls RIP.

    Terrible times we live in .. it makes you think that some of the issues we fight about on here are so trivial in comparison.

    I Hope all the industry guys who attended the LV conferences are ok and safe.

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    It's a very sad day for the United States and the world. #PrayForVegas

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    It's very sad and worrying, and it's going to get worse. It is now apparent that the theory of eugenics by "the elite" has moved out of the tin foil hat concept and into reality. I gather ISIL has claimed "credit" for the attack, and radical Islam seems to be part of the new army for eugenics.

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    Truly a tragic event. Hopefully, there would finally be some reasonable solution for the gun control, but unfortunately, itīs a huge industry and lots of money involved.

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    It isn't about gun control, it's about radicalisation. In England, where we have gun control, they use rented trucks as weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Fun View Post
    It isn't about gun control, it's about radicalisation. In England, where we have gun control, they use rented trucks as weapons.
    I agree with you and I also do agree with Trevor from this show.



    Imagine for a second what could have happened in England if the guns could be accessed as easily as in US?

    For instance, check out this site - http://www.shootingtracker.com/ It tracks the shootings where 4+ people were injured or killed. The numbers are dramatic.

    When we are talking about gun control, I`m not stating that guns should be banned completely, I state that citizens should not be able to purchase assault rifles. Hand gun with proper training is a fair choice of self defense, but a hand gun will not be as effective as an assault rifle when you are shooting from the 37th floor of a hotel.

    Anyway, I am a fan of non-violent way of dealing with issues. In my opinion, educated people are being the hardest to radicalize. Good and accessible education should be the best way of dealing with radical violence.

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    Americans do amazing things, but in some areas they are so stubborn and they will never learn. Part of their "we are the best country in the world and the all that american dream thing". No matter what happens, 100 more of these, they will still believe they got it right. It's not just money, if it was just money people could change that. But it's the people. Even if you run a pole today in Texas or all the center - I doubt more than 30% will be in favor of limiting the access go guns.

    I mean seriously, having an access to semi machine gun is what defines your freedom? Ridiculous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Fun View Post
    It isn't about gun control, it's about radicalisation. In England, where we have gun control, they use rented trucks as weapons.
    Wait until they weaponize the personal drones.

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    Should we eliminate cars, busses, liquids, knives, planes, reading? these are all things that can be used to commit mass killings? Truly a sad day but taking things away from people who obey the law won't stop the people who don't access.
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    I understand why a person might need a gun, but I don't understand why a person would need a military assault rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allfreechips View Post
    Should we eliminate cars, busses, liquids, knives, planes, reading? these are all things that can be used to commit mass killings?
    Yeah great point. Very logical. Because cars, buses, liquids, knives, planes, and reading were all obviously designed with the specific purpose of killing as many people as possible in a short space of time. Oh wait...

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    In 2015, 10,265 people died in alcohol-impaired driving crashes, accounting for nearly one-third (29%) of all traffic-related deaths in the United States. Of the 1, 1,132 traffic deaths among children ages 0 to 14 years in 2015, 209 (16%) involved an alcohol-impaired driver. In 2015, nearly 1.1 million drivers were arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol or narcotics. That’s one percent of the 111 million self-reported episodes of alcohol-impaired driving among U.S. adults each year.

    I think we should change the percent of alcohol in booze. Let's make all booze no more than 1% alcohol.

    According the nonprofit project the Gun Violence Archive, there were 12,562 gun deaths in 2014 and 9,959 in 2015 thus far. That's a grand total of 301,797 firearm-related deaths in the past decade, compared to 71 deaths from domestic acts of terrorism.

    See my point?

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    yes we need to cut off everones fingers, no wait arms.. remove arms form people then we cant use knives, cars ect! fact is if someone wants to kill a bunch of people they will, period. Lets make a law against that! I say we make it illegal to kill someone! that should do it


    See how stupid that sounds.

    Criminals are criminals, they don't seem to follow the law.
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    This is really sad news and this has never ever happened before in the whole history of the USA. Why didn't this guy go and get some help for himself? He should have spoke to somebody about feeling troubled and depressed. I really hope and pray that something like this never happens again in our already very fragile world.

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    I think media has a responsability too, news videos, social media, even video games and other type of information sources should be conscious. I saw a video of a 12 year old shooting his classmates on facebook. Years ago, this did not happen.. what you see is what you get, and the more they show videos, the more crazy people will emerge. There should be connsciousness in media, and in personal sharing of news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetbet View Post
    I understand why a person might need a gun, but I don't understand why a person would need a military assault rifle.
    Because unicorn politicians allow terrorists to invade countries and radicalise others. You need to be able to defend your family and yourself if the government (police and army ) act to increase the danger for honest citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Fun View Post
    Because unicorn politicians allow terrorists to invade countries and radicalise others. You need to be able to defend your family and yourself if the government (police and army ) act to increase the danger for honest citizens.

    Seriously? You need a automatic gun to defend your family? Plus, there were plenty shooting events in US prior to 9/11 and all that.

    Allfreechips, obviously won't convince you since having the ability to buy a gun is part of your life probably since you were a kid. Just as a point of view, for me, the idea of walking into a hiking equipment store, where there are plenty of children, and being able to buy shotguns - is insane.

    Btw, maybe stopping this ridiculous brown paper bag law and instead educating people might help a bit in regards to driving. What's the point of that bag law anyway? what it's supposed to solve?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMM View Post
    Seriously? You need a automatic gun to defend your family? Plus, there were plenty shooting events in US prior to 9/11 and all that.

    Allfreechips, obviously won't convince you since having the ability to buy a gun is part of your life probably since you were a kid. Just as a point of view, for me, the idea of walking into a hiking equipment store, where there are plenty of children, and being able to buy shotguns - is insane.

    Btw, maybe stopping this ridiculous brown paper bag law and instead educating people might help a bit in regards to driving. What's the point of that bag law anyway? what it's supposed to solve?
    I don't drink and I' not a gun enthusiast, just making a point.

    btw, they run PSA's on drinking and driving all the time in my state, so I don't know what you're talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Fun View Post
    Because unicorn politicians allow terrorists to invade countries and radicalise others. You need to be able to defend your family and yourself if the government (police and army ) act to increase the danger for honest citizens.
    Could be that all 300 million+ guns in the USA might come in handy some day.

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    it all comes down to if someone wants to kill mass amounts of people they will. Gun is a tool just like a semi truck. Imagine if he stole an 18 wheeler and drove through the crowd?

    The only way to do gun control is to erase them from history and people minds, a decent shop worker can machine a revolver in under 1 day from blank steel.

    what new laws are needed past murder? What crazy liberal gun laws would have prevented this?

    Oh and what is an assault rifle? Still not sure what that means. Semi automatic? I have yet to see a rifle go and assault anyone by itself
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