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    Default Link Building Scam - Thefootballforum.net

    Did anyone else receive an email like this?

    Hello,

    Thefootballforum.net is the largest and busiest football forum on the net; with Domain Authority 37 and Page Authority 33.

    Guest posts are available right now, with content included, on xxthefootballforum.net and an extensive list of domains; along with their DA/PA scores here: http://www.
    xxthefootballforum.net/index.php?pages/guestposts/

    Content is included FREE on these websites. Please review the list and then reply with the websites you are interested in.

    All the best,
    James Papworth
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    Perhaps stupidly, we enquired and decided to purchase a link. We paid 190 for the link and it appeared successfully. However, maybe two weeks later, the link disappeared. The contact we had stopped replying to emails.

    We've had our fingers burned and have probably lost our 190. Please don't fall into the same trap.
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    I have had the same email but did not go any further. It was formerly xxxonefootballforum.co.uk but now redirects to the above url.

    I see there are some sites on there that should belong to members here so maybe they can help in getting contact.
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    Unfortunately this is rife lately. I have been caught out once and just stopped another attempt this week.
    How they do it is - the link scammers find genuine sites that are selling links.
    They then get a potential buyer.
    Get the site to put up the link with a promise to pay.
    In the meantime they notify the buyer that the link is up so the buyer then pays for the link.
    They in turn do not pay the original site and cut off all contact.
    The original site then removes the link again due to non payment and the fraudster has got away scot free while the buyer is out of pocket.

    Always make sure you are dealing with the original site owner when buying links - i.e the email address is normally a good sign.
    Thats not to say there aren't any reputable link brokers out there, as there are, but just make sure you check them out first before releasing any money.

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    I totally disagree! I have provided an article to a member on the forum the site you can see lie article link xxhttps://xxwww.walesonline.co.uk/special-features/guide-online-betting-beginners-15534558 I offered him at the same price (I can disclose the price too) that editor ask for it. Backlink is given in the article for the client everyone can check. Total matter I explained to universal4 too but got reply you need to have patience and It's long time now. Can check when article is live and did not get payment while I paid to the editor in advance. Issue is client told It's mentioned advertorial which he did not told earlier. My concern is Its Popular news site and almost all such news sites mark Advertorial something for its readers. Client must explained his/her guidelines of acceptance of the article before the deal that mostly are doing. The site rule is once we paid for advertisement we can't get payment back so Lost the total amount and even writeup was made from my side.


    Quote Originally Posted by Topboss View Post
    Unfortunately this is rife lately. I have been caught out once and just stopped another attempt this week.
    How they do it is - the link scammers find genuine sites that are selling links.
    They then get a potential buyer.
    Get the site to put up the link with a promise to pay.
    In the meantime they notify the buyer that the link is up so the buyer then pays for the link.
    They in turn do not pay the original site and cut off all contact.
    The original site then removes the link again due to non payment and the fraudster has got away scot free while the buyer is out of pocket.

    Always make sure you are dealing with the original site owner when buying links - i.e the email address is normally a good sign.
    Thats not to say there aren't any reputable link brokers out there, as there are, but just make sure you check them out first before releasing any money.

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    I totally disagree!
    I was not referring to you specifically as I have no idea who you are.

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    dylan_moran98

    The case you are talking about has zero to do with the case the OP posted about, and also is not connected to Topboss in any way. (and yet her post was quoted)

    Best I could tell you started advertising the slot in August of 2018 and the case I worked on with you was in late May and June of 2019.

    We did attempt to help you reach a resolution in your case, and in fact the Private Member that made the original purchase from you attempted to work out a resolution, even after the fact that he felt he did not get exactly what was advertised since there was not full disclosure about what you were offering.

    As I had stated during those time frames, since the purchaser wanted to work something out, and offered advice on the changes that would have been acceptable at the time, I do think an acceptable resolution would have been forthcoming.

    The fact that you did not have access to the site and could not make changes to the links, it ended up to be a bit more financially painful on your side since you were selling articles/links on sites you did not personally own.

    Since I do see that 2 links still do exist on the article, I am not sure anything can be done almost 9 months later but I will reach out to the other party again and see if I can get a new dialog started, but honestly this should have been dealt with in a calm and professional manner directly with the other party instead, as he originally attempted to do.

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    I've had a look in to this and are trying to help the OP with the issue.

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    Hi Rick,

    Thanks you tried to help me!

    I only meant to reply to the statements topboss told, "They in turn do not pay the original site and cut off all contact.
    The original site then removes the link again due to non payment and the fraudster has got away scot free while the buyer is out of pocket."

    I am sorry if any one has taken it personal. I am working for other clients too and they are much cooperative. Even, now I don't ask for the payment from that client. Lets see how much happiness he can purchase from that amount. I only meant to message over here is that few client also cheat sometimes. I had told them clearly I have access to give 1 post on that site, I am not the owner. As I know link buyers know about link building process well. If any client shows interest buying link they also must explain his/her criteria of acceptance or should ask. You may know most of the clients want to be featured on Forbes. Few month before It was possible too, contributors were featuring them but not the owner of the site. Although, contributor don't own the site but were selling services. I have seen buyers were known the guidelines of Forbes. I only want to say, in this field we work on believing others and expect cooperation as well.

    Again, I don't have any complain with him/anybody.

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    I agree with most parts of what's been said and yes, sometimes it can be cheaper going direct.

    But......not all sites want to work with end users. They wont publish cheap, respun fiverr purchased content and have strict guidelines on topics, content length, anchors, sites they will link to etc etc. Link sellers can sometimes even be cheaper than the sites direct as can negotiate better pricing if buying in bulk. They also sometimes prefer to work with those they already have relationships with as they also have instances where things arent paid for. This doesnt just affect the end user.

    There are benefits to using a link building company if you arent working to a low budget, dont have time and dont want the hassle of arranging content, chasing editors, having articles rejected and so on.

    Like people will go to insurance companies direct as opposed to a broker. A broker will add their bit on but offers a tailored service.

    Entirely up to buyers which way they want to go. What I will add is that we offer a low cost (out margins are low compared to other agencies) reliable, friendly and professional service. We dont take payment up front and are always on hand if there are any issues. We have worked with lots and lots of GPWA and AGD members and I am sure they would give us a glowing review. But as we all know in the links and SEO world, people like to keep things close to their chest.
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    I agree with the point that it is "caveat emptor" and the buyer should ask questions. But I also think that sellers should be VERY clear upfront when they are selling links on sites they do not own as well as whether links will be tagged "advertisement" or "no follow", or any other new tagging google might release that changes link metrics.
    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/advertisi...tml#post910374

    OP originally warned about a specific instance of someone selling links, and then removing them shortly after they are placed, paid for and the payment has some clearing time.

    This is why some buyers feel more comfortable dealing direct with site owners.

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    Interesting. I am the founder and director of my company, Media Man Group aka Media Man Int, and I am also the lead editor, coder, writer and technical. I find that associates and clients knowing they are dealing with the boss, on both the deal conditions, and the technical, helps alot with credibility, trust, accountability and overall ease of doing business, both in Asia Pacific, the U.S and Europe. These days more than half of our business is done from projects in Europe and the U.S, for the location has become almost a non factor in the vast majority of cases. An interesting topic for us today.Thanks again for the interesting read. Greg Media Man Int

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    @ctlteam

    First of all, I'm really disappointed that I have only come across this post now, 9 months after you created it.

    In recent years, like many others I'm sure, we have seen a significant increase in third parties or questionable agencies both reselling content & placements on sites we own at profit, or, worse, claiming to have full editorial over the sites we own.

    We do our best to filter these rogues out but it's not a perfect system and it's an industry wide issue. We've experienced issues in the past for example when a third party has sold a homepage annual link via proxy (without our knowledge) and led the customer to believe it was a permanent placement.

    One thing I cannot stress enough is that if you are contacted with proposals relating to our network; I urge you to contact us directly. Not only does this eradicate any possible fraud, it's also cheaper; you will never find a cheaper price through a third party, period. It's sometimes difficult to clearly define whether somebody is an owner or of a site or simply reselling, so I'd encourage anybody to use official channels such as website contact forms or in the case of TFF, you can always email advertising@thefootballforum.net to confirm the legitimacy of any proposal you receive, alternatively you can contact an Administrator directly on the forums. We do have multiple email marketing methods and addresses, but we would never have any issue confirming ownership via an official email address. Should you experience resistance after making such a request, I can assure you that you are not dealing with us direct.

    We do, in addition to offering placements on our own sites; broker deals for other sites which we have good relationships with; but we are always upfront about this and make it clear to any buyer when a deal is comprised of an outreach service and/or content creation.

    We have excellent relationship with many successful affiliates, of which some frequent these forums regularly and two have engaged with this thread.

    OP, please reach out via the email listed above and I will work with you to resolve this straight away. From the information provided I suspect this has either been a third party resell, a link removal from a site we broker for, or granted potentially an oversight on our behalf. Irrespective I will make all options available to you for resolution including link restoration (where possible), credit, or ultimately a refund at cost to us.

    To summarise, once again I apologise that I have missed this until now. I have contacted you via your website and I'll endeavour to resolve this in full as soon as I hear back from you.

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