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    Default Looking for a Poker Room to give me Freerolls

    Hi Folks,

    this thread is primarily aimed at whatever poker room affiliate managers are out there on this board.

    Im looking for some decent sized freerolls for my forums, I have about a half dozen and between them I have one heck of a lot of player accounts.

    If your poker room is interested in hosting freerolls for us that will bring in a load of players, please PM me or post your details below for me to get back in touch with you.

    I have three large active forums, and three or four "dead" ones, that Im looking to revive.

    Look forward to hearing from you!

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    Just my .02 experience. Small buyins with money added are more attractive to the poker sites because they require deposits. They're also better for you, obviously.

    Pure freerolls will bring you a lot of visits, but it's garbage traffic for the most part. The freerolling community is large and the vast, vast majority of them will never deposit.

    It's even worse now with the freeroll password sharing forums. Now many of the signups in your events will have never visited or posted on your forum at all. I had to cancel a $500 freeroll at CD Poker a month ago because the pass got leaked.

    Two things I'd suggest to anyone looking to get into private events:

    1. Small buyins w/money added. If the player isn't willing to drop $2 or $3 on a buyin, he's not exactly a prime lead anyway.

    2. If you run freerolls, do an invite list (players submit their nickname to you, you submit a master list to the poker site and only those players can register). It's more work than password protected events, but you'll get more value. At the very least, players will need to register for your forum and contact you (wee! an email addresss!) to get into the event.

    Last bit of advice - contact smaller poker rooms. The smaller the site, the more likely they'll give you an event.

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    Excellent point PSORG, conversions from freerolls are generally very low. And it tends to attract the same group that travel from forum to forum (at best) in search of a freeroll.

    Speaking from experience, I agree 100% with you. Some times it is attractive however, to offer an introductory freeroll then follow through with added cash buy in and if they go well add a freeroll for the players that participated in the buy ins.

    As an Affiliate Manager I would much rather see this and the affiliates that do perform well are rewarded accordingly.
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    Good points Chips. Sounds like the format that the Online Forum Challenge events run, and they have been very successful.

    Thanks for the tip.

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    I totally agree with your points, however the pull of a freeroll does wonders for traffic and accounts, once people are registered with a poker room I prefer doing money addeds, or even a depositors freeroll where they have the attractive option of a freeroll with 50-100 players instead of 1,000 players.

    Also, please allow me to extend my apologies to those of you who have PMd me, due to the 5 post minimum I have been unable to reply, rest assured I will as soon as Ive reached my quota (probably tonight EU time).

    thanks!

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    I'll be waiting for you response eagerly MOG! lol

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    I agree here that freerolls is not always a good way to go. Players will come and play and after the freeroll they dissapear.

    Affiliates on CPA deal will receive their earnings and some times leave the poker room with a loss.

    Small buy ins could do well do on the other hand.

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    I have to agree with most of what's been said here. I've wasted quite a bit of money hosting freerolls (for me) in the past just to never see the players name appear again.

    Buy-ins may not get you many players, but for the most part they are the ones that will hang around. I now make any freerolls I host as a way to "reward" those that have been active in the buy-ins.
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    I find that freerolls players tend to take a very long time to convert6 if they ever do, also we host around $8,000 of freerolls every week so my view if players really want to play them they have loads of options, the route I take with affiliates is that I will offer a nice free tourney when the players make a deposit and use a bonus code most of the time the prize pool is from $500 - $2000 depending on the affiliate and the history.

    These tourneys are win win win for everyone, they players work the bonuses and get free money plus a chance to pick up a few hundred bucks in the tourney, the affiliate is happy as his players are generating rake and making him/her money and me being the poker room makes a few bucks as well.

    I have found that this way works really well, I have a couple of affiliates that want prize pools and often add some of there commission to the pool.

    Just my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PSORG View Post
    It's even worse now with the freeroll password sharing forums. Now many of the signups in your events will have never visited or posted on your forum at all. I had to cancel a $500 freeroll at CD Poker a month ago because the pass got leaked.
    MOGmartin owns the largest freeroll password stealing forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I.R. Winnar View Post
    MOGmartin owns the largest freeroll password stealing forum.
    Hey!! Come on now!
    Pretty lofty accusation to lob out there as your first post.
    If what you say is true, provide proof.
    Making an accusation like that without backing it up is totally uncool.
    This is someone's reputation you're slandering here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thepokerkeep View Post
    Hey!! Come on now!
    Pretty lofty accusation to lob out there as your first post.
    If what you say is true, provide proof.
    Making an accusation like that without backing it up is totally uncool.
    This is someone's reputation you're slandering here.
    sorry, i can't post links, as i don't have enough posts, pm me & i'll send the info.

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    cant send pms either, need another 2 posts, pm me an email address if you want the proof.

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    While I have issues with the way I.R. Winnar introduced himself to the forum, he has provided some proof to back up his claims. I'm posting a number of links I received via email which point to MOGmartin's forums and blog.

    Why am I getting involved?
    Password sharing is an issue that affects most of us who run forums so I thought it was relevant to post the information for all to see so you could make your own judgments and draw your own conclusions.

    pokerfreerollsblog
    He discusses password sharing here.

    Forum Rules - pokerfreerollspassword forum

    The sites are linked to mogpoker (link is dead but still listed) - look at bottom of forum for link.

    I want to make it clear that I'm not taking sides and I invite MOGmartin to respond/defend himself.
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    We get round this in an easy way we just dont offer passwords we add a token of some kind to the players account if it is a no deposit freeroll, and to be honest is it a really big issue if you have another 10 or 15 people in a tourney, I dont think so at least they are try out your site and you never know they might stick and deposit.


    By the way ThePokerKeep you sent a reply to my first PM but i never got anything back from the second one i sent to you. Fell free to contact me by one of the methods below.

    Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by wagerprofits View Post
    We get round this in an easy way we just dont offer passwords we add a token of some kind to the players account if it is a no deposit freeroll, and to be honest is it a really big issue if you have another 10 or 15 people in a tourney, I dont think so at least they are try out your site and you never know they might stick and deposit.


    By the way ThePokerKeep you sent a reply to my first PM but i never got anything back from the second one i sent to you. Fell free to contact me by one of the methods below.

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    it's more like an extra 200 in the freeroll, when martin's site posts the password. it is a large organised site for 'sharing' other site's password for private games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wagerprofits View Post
    We get round this in an easy way we just dont offer passwords we add a token of some kind to the players account if it is a no deposit freeroll, and to be honest is it a really big issue if you have another 10 or 15 people in a tourney, I dont think so at least they are try out your site and you never know they might stick and deposit.


    By the way ThePokerKeep you sent a reply to my first PM but i never got anything back from the second one i sent to you. Fell free to contact me by one of the methods below.

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    Sorry Shaun, thought I had replied... I am over 50 so the memory ain't so good anymore though

    I'll get back to ya today.

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