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Betreels Casino (6 March 2019)
You're actually in the wrong place for that. Despite what you would think with the online gambling industry, people here insist that great domains are not worth much (or practically anything really) and expect to pay next to nothing for them. Check out what happened here. The only thing you can expect here is to be extremely lowballed, but that domain is worth a fortune and is one of the best. That's at least a 7 figure domain minimum.
Betreels Casino (6 March 2019)
Solid domain! Probably the best I've seen listed for sale here in quite some time. Do you have a buy it now price?
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Sherlock (6 March 2019)
You tell me what number you'd be happy with and PM me when you can.
My point exactly. Do not allow yourself to be lowballed for this. This is a rare and genuinely "great domain," a genuinely investible asset in addition to enormous value for immediate and continued use. I see you already have it on Sedo, and personally I would recommend against Flippa, but to each their own. I don't recall any really great sale ever occurring there, however, though maybe there has been. One school of thought is also that you look weak if you list it everywhere, and this is the kind of domain that doesn't even need to be listed anywhere. The single Sedo listing should be enough if it is even listed at all. This is the kind of domain for which it would be worth it to issue a press release for exposure. Also don't fall into the trap of not realizing the value has nothing to do with whether you are personally experiencing the maximum possible earnings from a domain/brand like that at all. The value is based on reasonable and realistic highest and best use potential, not on whether you personally are making much with it now. You could also consider a deal for both cash and equity stake, or even leasing. No matter what your situation is, unless it is truly dire then you would be making a huge mistake to accept a lowball for this one. And make no mistake, this is not the first time I have personally even contemplated the value of the "make money" phrase, but I never expected to see the best .com of them all for that here.
P.S. There are also a number of well known domain seller brokers, and I'm sure a lot of them would love to handle that one. Personally I would not want to do that, and there can be trust or conflict of interest concerns, but it's still worth considering, and you can certainly set parameters. That can also be more proactive than just having it listed somewhere, and the commission would be more or less the same.
Last edited by Top Domains; 6 March 2019 at 6:00 pm.
Wow, Your in the complete wrong place. Try Rick Schwartz (thedomainking) He will take that off you.
No, that would be an even bigger mistake than the one I just came back here to warn against, which is "Estibot." Rick has written many times about his buying habits and strategy, which he makes no secret about. So yes, do read and learn from what he writes about domain names, but don't even dream of selling one to him personally. If he was feeling in a kind and generous mood I'm confident even he would tell you that.
So regarding why I came back:
Also DO NOT make the mistake of going by the "Estibot" figure, or allow anyone to even discuss it in any negotiation. In fact, read what Rick Schwartz says about that too, among others. This is common knowledge in the industry, but those who don't know better can fall victim to it.
Ironically, by the way, even Estibot was saying Poker.com was worth $20 million during the thread I linked to above, but people there didn't even want to acknowledge that amount for the domain. Someone there did want to have their cake and eat it too by bringing up the Estibot figure for another domain, however, but that material was deleted from the thread.
So without question: DO NOT even consider the $223,000 I just saw mentioned by Estibot for your domain.
Also, interesting tidbit: Estibot was "appraising" crypto.com for $48,000 right up until and for even a long time after it sold for $12 million, and that was brought to a lot of people's attention for a long time since. Normally once a sale is confirmed you tend to see an adjustment in the "appraisal" to at least reflect the sale price. So what have they done? I just checked and now they are "appraising" it at $31,000.
Betreels Casino (9 March 2019)
Place it on SEDO.com. You should get a good offer for that domain.
Just mentioned it's already at Sedo up above. Sedo's well known but it will not necessarily result in a good offer. What would really be good at a place like that, however, is strong competitive bidding.
I think the best thing is really to do a press release. A press release for that one should definitely get picked up. Then perhaps there would be good competitive bidding.
I will add this word of caution:
This is not just your run-of-the-mill great domain. This one is among those that are special. As such, you can expect to get predatory people trying to convince you it's not worth nearly as much as it really is. That's the worst kind of lowballing, the kind that includes lying and efforts to deceive. But it is, and worth far more than a lot of great one word and shorter domains too.
So be very wary of that, including with brokers. In fact, including with Sedo brokers. Aside from conflict of interest or even collusion possibilities, brokers have a strong incentive to settle for less, much less. And if you encounter people like that, which is likely, just point them to the video at the link in my sig.![]()
Last edited by Top Domains; 7 March 2019 at 7:33 pm.
Betreels Casino (9 March 2019)
At SEDO he can apply for a top domain listing and he should get some decent bidding. If he wants to sell it directly then Namepros is a good place to let everyone know it is for sale. Either way, it is a solid domain for several businesses.
That does sound like a good idea to try at Sedo. I removed all my own domains from Sedo not long ago and have stopped using them, but never noticed that feature. In all candor, though, despite how famous Sedo is - at least in the domain industry - I'm not sure I ever saw a publicly reported sale there, including on DNJ, that I felt measured up to what any really great domain that sold there was worth. I also had some experiences that led me to be pretty cautious about listing there, and especially one in the early 2000's.
Exposure at NP may be a good idea, but it is also going to multiply the attention from the unwanted kind of suitors as well. It will, however, tend to increase notice by other brokers, after which you can only hope you are dealing with a trustable one if you go that route.
All of these venues are really mainly just exposure to domain industry insiders, however. That is not really good.
A great domain like this really belongs in an end user world venue where the world of business end users is going to abundantly notice.
That's why a press release is possibly the most important thing as far as I'm concerned. People have issued press releases for far worse domains than that, and they get noticed. Sedo, at least temporarily, and NP may be a good idea, but I think a press release is likely to result in far more of the most important kind of potential buyers noticing and discovering it. There are a lot of uses one could imagine for a domain like this, but I'll bet few people are even thinking about how great it would be at the highest levels of finance, investment and Wall Street, for instance. You want people and companies like that to notice in addition to all the ecommerce types who would already more easily and rapidly notice it.
Last edited by Top Domains; 7 March 2019 at 3:05 am.
Hm, user IAW signed up on 24 Feb, made 1 post, and hasn't logged in since then.
There's no proof he owns the domain.
I think it's time to move on.
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