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    Default My site has finally made money but...

    Hey all.

    I'm happy to say that I've had a good month (good for me anyway... it's a start) with my Casino Dawgs site. I had my "official" launch beginning / mid March and didn't see any sign ups. None in April either. Now May rolls around and I have so far gotten 5 sign-ups!!! I was really excited by this and the amount of my commission was ok... at least enough to pay for 4 months of hosting. I have all of my sign-ups spread out over two casnio groups and all are revenue share. I was a happy camper until...

    Well, someone did a deposit of $20.00 and ended up winning over $200.00 from one of the casinos! What I didn't realize (or expect) is that I would lose $50.00 of my commission on the month from the other depositing players! This is from the CasinoPartners group. Is this typical of a revenue share program or would I have been better off with CPA? I don't know if they would also dock me if I was signed up for the CPA account. Is this perhaps just how CasinoPartners does it, or can I expect this with all casino groups?

    I have to admit... I was happy for the person who won but it definitely took my "high" feeling and brought it WAY down low. Anyway... hopefully someone else can give me some insight on this. Thanks!!!


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    It is typical of most affiliate programs that player wins and losses balance out for that month.
    Even though you might have one player that makes a big win I think you'll always be better off with the revshare. I chose a CPA once at referbingo because the manager offered me a $75 cpa. I was on the cpa for probably 6 months, missing out on commission. I ended up switching back to the revshare three months ago and last month took $400 on commission. I always go for revshare now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deaddog
    It is typical of most affiliate programs that player wins and losses balance out for that month.
    Even though you might have one player that makes a big win I think you'll always be better off with the revshare. I chose a CPA once at referbingo because the manager offered me a $75 cpa. I was on the cpa for probably 6 months, missing out on commission. I ended up switching back to the revshare three months ago and last month took $400 on commission. I always go for revshare now.
    Thanks for the reply. I was just a bit disappointed by losing some of my commission, but I guess that makes sense if it's a true revenue-share. I'm hoping that since the person won they'll go ahead and try their luck again in the future.


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    Welcome to the nailbiting wait for month end. I have at stages been a very happer camper on the 28th/29th only to have a month end player come in and wipe out big sums of money.

    However, you can also have a terrible month and suddenly, on the 30th day, you find yourself sitting at a record level.

    The best rule of thumb is to ignore the values and track the volumes. Aim to increase the signups, the money numbers will look after themselves. You can influence how many people sign up but you have no control of their winnings and losses. So, you got 5 depositors! Well done! Forget anything else, you got more than many other people did. If you get 7 next month, 9 the month after that, and so on, then you will build up a loyal player base and you will have something like a stable platform to earn on.

    Important. You will have big winners from time to time. Spread your risk over more than 2 programs. My top 2 programs, Casino Blasters and Brightshare, have had simultaneous huge winners, theoretically leaving me in a pickle. But, with the risk spread, I suddenly found programs like Roxy and Wagershare making up for my lost ground. Now, a good month sees maybe 7 programs hitting good numbers. What I like about this is that I can, with all honesty, feel very good for my winners. They never totally take away from that income base that I need to survive and run my business I can now, in effect, budget for winners. Long may they persevere and enjoy success.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbcasinos
    Welcome to the nailbiting wait for month end. I have at stages been a very happer camper on the 28th/29th only to have a month end player come in and wipe out big sums of money.

    However, you can also have a terrible month and suddenly, on the 30th day, you find yourself sitting at a record level.

    The best rule of thumb is to ignore the values and track the volumes. Aim to increase the signups, the money numbers will look after themselves. You can influence how many people sign up but you have no control of their winnings and losses. So, you got 5 depositors! Well done! Forget anything else, you got more than many other people did. If you get 7 next month, 9 the month after that, and so on, then you will build up a loyal player base and you will have something like a stable platform to earn on.

    Important. You will have big winners from time to time. Spread your risk over more than 2 programs. My top 2 programs, Casino Blasters and Brightshare, have had simultaneous huge winners, theoretically leaving me in a pickle. But, with the risk spread, I suddenly found programs like Roxy and Wagershare making up for my lost ground. Now, a good month sees maybe 7 programs hitting good numbers. What I like about this is that I can, with all honesty, feel very good for my winners. They never totally take away from that income base that I need to survive and run my business I can now, in effect, budget for winners. Long may they persevere and enjoy success.

    Thanks for the words of wisdom. Currently I am signed up with CasinoBlasters, ReferBack, CasinoPartners, CashWave and PartnerLogic. So far my sucess has been with CasinoPartners and CasinoBlasters so I've started to promote them a little heavier. I plan on dropping PartnerLogic since I dont like their Affiliate site (stat tracking is too limited for me) and CashWave I am so-so on. Oh, and I signed up with CasinoCoins and SunnyDiamonds recently. So, I have my portfolio of casino partners that is large enough to be diverse but not TOO diverse (I think).

    Well, at least now I know it's a common thing with the rev share to lose some of the gainings. I am hoping for at least 5 more users next month and then to keep building from there. I at least want to get enough so I can pay for the hosting and expense that I've put in. Time isn't much of a factor since I enjoy programming anyway (plus it helps me learn). Thanks for the reply.


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    Firstly, congratulations CasinoDawg..
    I'm pretty new here to and like you .. this was the first month I started seeing some positive movement... My very first deposit was $300 and then client won $1300 within 48 hours.. playing Baccarrat. (Lowest House favor).. I started to wonder if it was all worth it.. the time etc.. and then another player signed up and deposited $1150.. he lost it all within an hour. (High rollers table.. huge bets..) I had the affiliate manager tell me what he lost it on.. anyway it was a wash.. but it goes to show you that people do win.. but overall you'll do well.. at least that's what I hope..


    Let's see if I change my mind in the next year..

    Good luck Brother.. lol
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    Hang in there. House always wins in the end. That's why the casinos are in business.

    Maybe try promoting a poker site as well as your casino ones. They only go negative if there is a chargeback

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    I also wonder if it's worth all the time, investment, and effort sometimes. Also, all the time spent (and I spent a lot of time on it) I could have spent on other sites I want to build (have like 5 of them in my head, 2 already started)... but now I'm at the point where I'm at least looking at it more positively since getting some sign-ups. I started this gig when a former co-worker of mine told me he had quit his full-time job and was making over 100k a year from his Casino Portal site. Well, I jumped on the web to check out his site and thought "You have got to be kidding me!!!" I don't like to put down anyone's site... but his had poor design and didn't impress me in the least. Of course I start thinking "If he can make a 100k year on this, I should be able to make tice that!" and then jumped on the band-wagon.

    Well... some 4-6 months later of design, graphics, content, SEOing, and money spent on hosting and researching... my site has still yet to profit. I've had a good month in terms of sign-ups, but not much in terms of $$$ coming in. As with any business, success is two parts effort and one part luck. I'll keep working on the site and keep it going. We'll see where it will be next year at this time.


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    Ahh.. the bittersweet of being a webmaster, huh?

    Well, I have yet to start my own website as I've been spending the past couple of weeks absorbing information like a sponge and ending the nights with a pretty good amount of information overload (but definitely in a good sense).

    But persistence is key to succeed in anything. Too bad we couldn't leave the emotional rollarcoaster outta it, hah.

    Well, congrats CasinoDawg on your players. I hope it all works out.

    This is my first post on the forum and I think I still have yet to get clearance for other threads here, but I look forward to the wealth of information I can learn especially from the 'Freshman Forum'.

    Congrats again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by casinowahine
    Ahh.. the bittersweet of being a webmaster, huh?

    Well, I have yet to start my own website as I've been spending the past couple of weeks absorbing information like a sponge and ending the nights with a pretty good amount of information overload (but definitely in a good sense).

    But persistence is key to succeed in anything. Too bad we couldn't leave the emotional rollarcoaster outta it, hah.

    Well, congrats CasinoDawg on your players. I hope it all works out.

    This is my first post on the forum and I think I still have yet to get clearance for other threads here, but I look forward to the wealth of information I can learn especially from the 'Freshman Forum'.

    Congrats again!

    Aloha
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    Thanks Lynne. Like everyone here, we were all new at this too at some point, so feel free to ask some questions and I'm sure everyone here will be happy to help you. It takes a while to get things cranking and can be a frustrating gig at times, but if you enjoy building websites and casinos are of interest to you then it can be fun too. Good luck!


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    Much mahalos CasinoDawg. I'd have to say that reading through the forums alone is a full-time job in itself but i'm addicted to say the least.

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    congratulations CasinoDawg It is all worth it do not lose heart on bad months

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