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    Man do I miss Neteller when it was everwhere and free. And you knew exactly who paid you

    Also dont assume affiliate payments are Gambling, these affiliates really should separate banking from both sides.
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    Just an update: I still haven't found a solution.

    The ones recommended here do not accept gambling related payments according to their TOS (including paysera and TW).
    The bank mentioned, does not accept any businesses from other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allfreechips View Post
    Man do I miss Neteller when it was everwhere and free. And you knew exactly who paid you

    Also dont assume affiliate payments are Gambling, these affiliates really should separate banking from both sides.
    Yep, but not every bank sees it like that. For many of them everything is gambling, no matter if you're running a casino or an affiliate website.

    I now even heard from a guy having a backlink to one of my websites on his website had troubles with this bank because of that. His website has nothing to do with gambling, just contains two backlinks to affiliate websites.

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    We were using ePayments for quite a while however there have been issues for almost a year transferring funds to banks in Canada.
    Although not directly related to "banking" if you are able to receive BTC we have been successful using Bylls. Very fast and hassle free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokerface View Post
    We were using ePayments for quite a while however there have been issues for almost a year transferring funds to banks in Canada.
    Although not directly related to "banking" if you are able to receive BTC we have been successful using Bylls. Very fast and hassle free.
    Are you trying to receive money into a personal bank account?We have business accounts at CIBC and TD Bank and can get incoming from casino ,we did full disclosure to t hem that we do marketing work for Online Casinos.As long as we were not touching any player money and processing they had no issues.I know many who have accounts at CIBC with no issues at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pokerface View Post
    We were using ePayments for quite a while however there have been issues for almost a year transferring funds to banks in Canada.
    Although not directly related to "banking" if you are able to receive BTC we have been successful using Bylls. Very fast and hassle free.
    I thought that epayments was closed. They had some issues. All works fine again?
    BTW is it acceptable for banks if the money goes via a payment processor but is still gambling affiliate payment? Because even if you do it that way, you still have to show them the gambling affiliate invoices.

    BtW thanks for the info. I will look into both epayments and bylls.


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    Are you trying to receive money into a personal bank account?We have business accounts at CIBC and TD Bank and can get incoming from casino ,we did full disclosure to t hem that we do marketing work for Online Casinos.As long as we were not touching any player money and processing they had no issues.I know many who have accounts at CIBC with no issues at all.
    How do you do these full disclosures? YOu just walk in and tell the clerk that you want a new bank account and you will be getting affiliate payments? Or is this more complex (with lawyers etc.)? Let me know please.

    I contacted all banks in my country via email, and all of them said that gambling related payments are not accepted, even if it is just affiliate payments. I have the feeling that I have to talk to a manager or something, instead.

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    Our business bank accounts have been opened 15 years and over the years we have been asked questions and have never lied about what we do.The only one we do not have is Scotiabank ,they kicked us out in 2009 because of gambling incoming wires and cited the US laws as a reason for this.We have a pending litigation against them for this matter.

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    I have a question for everyone.
    How much would you be willing to pay for no hassle banking account for affiliate income?

    Lets keep it simple, so how many % of amount as fee would be acceptable? Or how much flat fee per month?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    I have a question for everyone.
    How much would you be willing to pay for no hassle banking account for affiliate income?

    Lets keep it simple, so how many % of amount as fee would be acceptable? Or how much flat fee per month?
    I could solve my problems with skrill. But the huge fee of 3.9% is too high for me. I'd rather switch banks when they kick me out, than pay 3.9% fee.

    The max I would pay is $100/mo flat fee.

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    Do all of you guys have a company or do some of you take it to a personal account? Is a company account a must in your opinion? I understand tax-issues etc but that set aside.

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    Thanks for reply. By coincidence (there are no coincidences in fact), I might be involved in banking business, which is currently under great distress.

    I really wonder how much people would pay for hassle free banking for affiliate marketing (and also for offloading crypto). I also thought the 3.9% is the upper limit, but it is way too high. I think the reasonable pricing would be from 2% (for smallest) to 0.5% (to biggest affiliates).

    After all roughly this is what I was charged by private banks. But even those do not want/can not be involved in gambling anymore.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Choke_Point was cancelled just formally. It is going on worldwide (esp. where US has influence) and will be just stricter.

    I am curious how much would other people pay.
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    I think 2.9% is good when all other options are gone.
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    Do not worry, there will be surcharges for US residents

    No seriously, if I ever do for real paying customers and not for poor gamblers who click on ads, I really want some fair pricing. I would like to have happy customers and not people grinding their teeth while paying. Any business I will do in future must be for big benefit for both sides. So this is why I am asking.

    I would like to know more opinions how much anyone pay for no hassle affiliate banking.

    Something si brewing. The bankers are really not happy to be US lapdogs. Now not just that. They complied to everything and make less and less money. All important ones I know are already BTC invested.
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    Even BTC is getting difficult with exchanges asking for sources.
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    Yes. And the banks also ask for sources that come from exchanges. Someone who has capital for the bank downpayment and knowledge how to do AML for affiliate business and crypto can make decent money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by allfreechips View Post
    Even BTC is getting difficult with exchanges asking for sources.

    I got the hoop jump a few months back. It's especially unsettling when, the exchange freely accepted my BTC and conversion to AU$xx,xxx, but then demanded I supply them SoW. I've got nothing to hide. However, what bugs me is, who's seeing (has access to) this, my private information.

    Are personnel screened (police checked etc)... Otherwise it could be anyone viewing this info.

    Of course to have those funds released to bank account, you have no other choice but to meet those demands.


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    Old timers like myself, may recall a web wallet known as Payspark. Originally it was only issued to VIP players from Belle Rock Entertainment Group; jolting the memory that was River Belle casino, Gaming Club et al. Later, it was made available to Referback affiliates.

    It was an ATM Card which also had a Debit Mastercard Attached. The issuing bank was located in Iraq.

    I would think if one wanted a bank account, where gambling funds weren't an issue, searching around the aforementioned country or similar locations, may provide a possible solution to your problem(s).

    The only issue I could see doing that, it may raise a red-flag with authorities in your country of residence/citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casinobonusguy View Post
    we did full disclosure to them that we do marketing work for Online Casinos.As long as we were not touching any player money and processing they had no issues.
    The people you'd generally deal with at a bank aren't usually clued up on the differences between an igaming affiliate and a igaming operator. Banks generally have clear-cut-guidelines. From my experiences here in Australia, unless you actually provide full discolosure of what it is you actually do an an igaming affiliate, the bank will always think the worst case scenario.

    Hence taking casinobonusguy's advice, least from my experience, is the best way to gain a bank account in one's country.

    NB - if your not taking bets etc., then your simply marketing the casino, and your an advertiser. TV stations advertise gambling, I bet they have bank accounts. I'm sure they don't get hassled. So neither should affiliates, because, they also ONLY promote igaming operators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDave View Post
    NB - if your not taking bets etc., then your simply marketing the casino, and your an advertiser. TV stations advertise gambling, I bet they have bank accounts. I'm sure they don't get hassled. So neither should affiliates, because, they also ONLY promote igaming operators.

    That't what I thought as well. But... there's probably a difference between advertising regulated operators in the country where the bank is located vs promoting unregulated operators worldwide...
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    This all is ridiculous... Following this lead, one could also say that payment, for example, for electricity from a company that promotes online gambling, is against banking policy, and such a electricity provider should have a closed bank account - this is gambling related! <LOL>.

    Even all the legal bookies and land-based casinos should have been blocked in the banking system. This is just double-standards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AussieDave View Post
    TV stations advertise gambling, I bet they have bank accounts. I'm sure they don't get hassled.
    This is what I thought as well but then a bank manager told me that as a gambling affiliate, I get over 25% of my money from gambling companies whereas a TV station gets only a 1% of their money from gambling companies.

    So maybe a possible solution could be to mix in other niche payments as well. But there are no guarantees.

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    If you are a BIG FISH with 6-7 digits per month, you don't have to worry about your banking, almost every high street bank will find a solution for you... But, when you are a small or mid bizz, they will tell you SORRY, we cannot accept gambling-related payments. Just about the size of your bizz and how much you are going to pay for the service. IMHO, I know some ppl who pay fixed fee around 1k euros / month and have no issues with gambling related payments, setting up IBANs, etc.

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