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    If this was an ongoing relationship, and if the affiliate had a history of generating players of this value then of course that would be the best business-as-usual approach to handling chargebacks.

    In this situation, NEITHER case is true, the identify of the player and relationship is in dispute, there is antipathy between the two parties, and this is a full and final settlement. As such keeping a payment in escrow for the chargeback duration seems perfectly sensible.

    I've seen situations like this where the affiliate group simply refuses to pay or communicate - and the affiliate is out of pocket permanently.

    Accordingly, I congratulate the affiliate, the program and the GPWA with getting a satisfactory resolution that seems fair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    They clearly do not believe that the player is an arms length player - and quote suspicious login patterns between player and affiliate as evidence.
    Sounds stupid,because i dont know any programm with a Live-Time-Update on the Revenue stats.
    Klicks and Signups yes.

    What would have happened,if dirk dont open this public thread ?Nothing?

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    You had indicated you would copy me on future email messages to Condor, but I do not have any record of being copied on such an email. If you resend the email to Condor copying me, I will require that they answer it appropriately as a condition of moving forward as an escrow agent.
    You had been in CC together with Anthony the day before yesterday, could you please confirm? If no, then I've got the wrong address.
    I don't recall other emails to Condor after I asked you for participating in CC, furthermore, I still don't know which deposit method we're talking about here. Could anybody please tell me, so I can check about that?

    I'm not in the office next week, so I cannot write so much, I'm sorry.
    Thanks for the escrow offer, I guess I need to ask my tax consultant how to handle this. I wrote the invoice to a certain address, so the payment should normally arrive from the same company and country. Otherwise, I cannot tell whether or not my financial department likes that payment.

    Another thing to point out once again: The "login patterns" are completely made up. That's one more reason I don't trust Condor at all.

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    Welcome to Buffallo Partners 2.0?!

    • Affiliate program cannot provide a shred of real and undoctored evidence with the exception of predictions by a unnamed psychic medium, working for Condor since Dirk want his money, a psychic who claims, that something bad can happen in the future with Dirk's players. And of course, GPWA has to investigate also esoteric claims in the meantime, because for some programs like Condor this is the only hope to survive. Yes, we are talking about the same Condor medium, that after two bottles of cheap wine saw in the light, that some players are "gang members" and so they cannot get their money.
    • Captain Condor and the other losers of Condor Affiliates stopped any conversation here in the forum like the criminals from Buffalo did. The same pattern. No difference. This is an easy way to blame later Anthony or Michael, because they now acting as spokesmen.
    • The same stalling tactics like in the Buffalo case to the disadvantage of the affiliate. The same pattern. No difference. If real evidence exists, it can be provided within 72 hours. Keep that in mind. Every evidence after that timeline in every case with high probability is fabricated.
    • Condor Affiliates are obviously a bunch of spammers, liars and deceivers, with an empty wallet, and GPWA must be very careful not to fall again into a trap of liars and deceivers ... and a drunk psychic medium. Condor Affiliates are declared hostile and being outlaws, so they have to pay or to vanish from the market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk20 View Post
    You had been in CC together with Anthony the day before yesterday, could you please confirm? If no, then I've got the wrong address.
    Yes, I now see that I was copied. Thank you. My mailbox is sort of overflowing after having been away for a couple weeks, so I had managed to miss it in the deluge of email I am going through.

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    I would appreciate to clarify one more thing regarding the following statements:
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman View Post
    In the email Condor states that they have concerns regarding the risk of a charge back from the player involved. I knew this was the case from the meeting held with Condor at the Amsterdam Affiliate Conference, and do understand some of the reasons for the concern. If I were in Condor's shoes I believe I would also share those concerns.
    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman View Post
    I don't believe you are being treated like a criminal. I do believe you are being treated as if the risk profile for a charge back from the player is larger than typical. I believe contributing factors revolve largely around some characteristics of the player and the amount wagered that fall outside of the usual parameters
    These sentences strongly suggest that you, Michael, have much more insight into this case than I have. Maybe you've got 2 or 3 times more information than I have, don't know exactly.
    I appreciate that you and the GPWA are involved, it's certainly an advantage. That's not my point, the point is how is it possible in any way that I as the business partner of Condor's in this case am being excluded from ALL IMPORTANT INFORMATION available at the same time? This doesn't make any logical sense, of course.

    I already mentioned that Condor in general always refused to answer my questions but they additionally also provided no such information at all by themselves. Why is the charge-back risk high in this case, what are these "characteristics"? Please mail me all information that your concerns are based on, so I can finally have a clue of what's going on here and make my own assessment.

    Could you do this please, Michael? Unfortunately, Condor operates very unprofessional, so they wouldn't provide me this insight even though they seem to have revealed everything to you. Very odd and untrustworthy, I cannot stop wondering about the way Condor conduct their businesses ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirk20 View Post
    I would appreciate to clarify one more thing regarding the following statements:


    These sentences strongly suggest that you, Michael, have much more insight into this case than I have. Maybe you've got 2 or 3 times more information than I have, don't know exactly.
    I appreciate that you and the GPWA are involved, it's certainly an advantage. That's not my point, the point is how is it possible in any way that I as the business partner of Condor's in this case am being excluded from ALL IMPORTANT INFORMATION available at the same time? This doesn't make any logical sense, of course.

    I already mentioned that Condor in general always refused to answer my questions but they additionally also provided no such information at all by themselves. Why is the charge-back risk high in this case, what are these "characteristics"? Please mail me all information that your concerns are based on, so I can finally have a clue of what's going on here and make my own assessment.

    Could you do this please, Michael? Unfortunately, Condor operates very unprofessional, so they wouldn't provide me this insight even though they seem to have revealed everything to you. Very odd and untrustworthy, I cannot stop wondering about the way Condor conduct their businesses ...
    I would probably be willing to bet a few chickens and a medium sized goat that the evidence was not presented. I'm guessing it was stated and "accepted" as fact regardless of no presentation of evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    I would probably be willing to bet a few chickens and a medium sized goat that the evidence was not presented. I'm guessing it was stated and "accepted" as fact regardless of no presentation of evidence.
    Yes, Shay. It's obviously a witch hunt!
    If there would be real evidence, it would have been provided and presented here.
    There is no difference if one asks Condor for "evidence" or James Hydrick, the phone book blower and new advertising icon of that failing program.

    Casino City Management is now at the edge of esoteric investigations and plays the sidekick of a program that is operated by proven spammers and fraudsters who proven refused to pay a player, insulting him being a "gang member" in the public without a shred of evidence.

    You see the pattern?

    If there is no real evidence against Dirk of fraud, that would hold during a court hearing, then the program has to pay and I can give the CCM only the advice, not to fall again into a trap like some months ago.

    I am making investigations since many decades, and this case smells like people with an empty wallet. This is also the reason, why this idiot from Condor here on GPWA some weeks ago flooded the whole forum with spam posts, and now after this insane 36 hours spam attack against GPWA, the CCM is willing to hold the hands of this losers, who have not enough money for being at least Silver Sponsor here?

    Dirk has the right, that full information will be provided to him and not some handpicked pieces only.
    The accusations against Dirk at this point are a big nothing burger.
    So I request now officially hard evidence from CCM that have been provided by Condor within the first 72 hours after the case was opened.
    Otherwise, this is a witch hunt from spammers with an empty wallet and nothing else, with GPWA as sidekick, and this would really not be good.

    If there is no real evidence against Dirk, I mean real evidence, no hearsay, no allegedly things, real evidence, then he has to receive his money. If not, and if CCM or GPWA plays still the sidekick to the obvious advantage to Condor, then this can damage for a long time the reputation of GPWA. Believe me, as an communication expert and media analyst, I can tell you, this story here is probably more worst than the Buffalo case.

    Be careful, that you do not fall into a trap again. The Club Gold Dino-Fake guy proven lied, the Buffalo guys proven lied, I knew it from the beginning, and if here is no real evidence, then this is the next scandal. It is unbelievable, that Dirk is standing quasi in the dock and Condor or CCM does not provide him the full indictment?

    Hello?!

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    Ok Condor,lets play.

    Friday,is your day.On this day I will contact all possible condor affiliates,with a link about this "problem".Its a easy job for me.
    I am sure,this will hurt.

    The time is running, Condor !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    If this was an ongoing relationship, and if the affiliate had a history of generating players of this value then of course that would be the best business-as-usual approach to handling chargebacks.

    In this situation, NEITHER case is true, the identify of the player and relationship is in dispute, there is antipathy between the two parties, and this is a full and final settlement. As such keeping a payment in escrow for the chargeback duration seems perfectly sensible.

    I've seen situations like this where the affiliate group simply refuses to pay or communicate - and the affiliate is out of pocket permanently.

    Accordingly, I congratulate the affiliate, the program and the GPWA with getting a satisfactory resolution that seems fair.
    Gooner, as far as I know, I think you have it right. When I met with Condor, and they said they wanted to place the money in escrow with us, I viewed that as a very appropriate resolution, and better than what some other affiliate programs would do.

    I do know that the tone in the messages from the affiliate to Condor was quite negative, and was viewed as constituting personal threats against its employees. And I have been told it was the affiliate, and not Condor that cut off communications with the affiliate manager at the time by deleting him from Skype. But I view all of that as largely irrelevant at this point in time. Some of those communications have been shared with me, and they go to places I would never go and that I feel would be counterproductive if I were in communications with an affiliate program.

    In fact, the delays after the meeting in Amsterdam fall largely on my shoulders. I had do make a decision about whether I was willing to act as an escrow agent. Condor proposed that in Amsterdam. And, to be honest, I was unsure I wanted to take on that role since it is something we have never done before. But I did agree because I felt that assisting an affiliate in getting paid was something I wanted to do even though the approach was something that did not make me completely comfortable.

    In terms of knowing extra information, I really don't know that much. The fact that Condor was willing to immediately place the funds in escrow for payment to the affiliate removed most of the concerns I had regarding the situation. And if I were the affiliate in question, I would have been happy with that outcome. I have felt Condor's communications with me on the matter have been professional, and are consistent with the type of interactions I have with programs when I feel they are trying to do the right thing. That is, in large part, why I accepted Condor's proposal.

    Instead, I seem to find myself in the middle being accused of taking sides and withholding information. That's just not fair.

    Please, either accept what is proposed or reject it. Personally, I think the wise move is to accept it.

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    Addendum

    "I do know that the tone in the messages from the affiliate to Condor was quite negative, and was viewed as constituting personal threats against its employees."


    What a wonderful hearsay and subjective grading. Now we know, where the wind is blowing.

    ---

    An information to the audience, that you all know, with what kind of guys we are dealing with.
    THIS is REAL evidence:

    In the past Rembrandt Casino and Casino Sieger proven have had a not working license link.
    The link did not work.
    For years!!!

    After Condor was caught red handed by me here on GPWA, they did not fix the link to the license.

    No, on the quiet they just removed the license link and were so caught again red handed.

    Here are the screenshot I made:

    Before:


    After caught red handed:


    Everyone will understand, that from such a card shaper program I only would accept ironclad and forensic evidence, especially as a sidekick.

    If Dirk is guilty, I am the first who will hammer his head, but if not, then not providing all information to him or to withhold money is a scandal, in my country illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    Addendum

    "I do know that the tone in the messages from the affiliate to Condor was quite negative, and was viewed as constituting personal threats against its employees."


    What a wonderful hearsay and subjective grading. Now we know, where the wind is blowing.

    ---

    An information to the audience, that you all know, with what kind of guys we are dealing with.
    THIS is REAL evidence:

    In the past Rembrandt Casino and Casino Sieger proven have had a not working license link.
    The link did not work.
    For years!!!

    After Condor was caught red handed by me here on GPWA, they did not fix the link to the license.

    No, on the quiet they just removed the license link and were so caught again red handed.

    Here are the screenshot I made:

    Before:


    After caught red handed:


    Everyone will understand, that from such a card shaper program I only would accept ironclad and forensic evidence, especially as a sidekick.

    If Dirk is guilty, I am the first who will hammer his head, but if not, then not providing all information to him or to withhold money is a scandal, in my country illegal.

    Leopold
    Leopold,

    My view is that you are making a presentation of only a portion of the truth that you know paints a false picture. Condor Affiliates did hold a valid sub-license in Curacao (for those of you who don't know, there are four organizations holding direct master gaming-licensees in Curacao, and they are authorized to grant sub-licenses). The webmaster of the Condor sites knew they were properly licensed, and linked to what was thought to be the seal for all licensees. However, it was a seal granted by a specific one of the master-licensees. The master licensee for Condor did not provide a seal, and so when the issue was pointed out by Leopold, Condor correctly removed the link to the seal used by a master-licensee that was not their master-licensee. Personally, I understand the confusion here. Before investigating the matter several years ago I did not understand that there were server master-licensees in Curacao that issued sub-licenses, and could have easily made the same mistake myself. Shame on you, Leopold, for presenting only a portion of the facts that create a distorted picture of what was uncovered at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman View Post
    Gooner, as far as I know, I think you have it right. When I met with Condor, and they said they wanted to place the money in escrow with us, I viewed that as a very appropriate resolution, and better than what some other affiliate programs would do.

    I do know that the tone in the messages from the affiliate to Condor was quite negative, and was viewed as constituting personal threats against its employees. And I have been told it was the affiliate, and not Condor that cut off communications with the affiliate manager at the time by deleting him from Skype. But I view all of that as largely irrelevant at this point in time. Some of those communications have been shared with me, and they go to places I would never go and that I feel would be counterproductive if I were in communications with an affiliate program.

    In fact, the delays after the meeting in Amsterdam fall largely on my shoulders. I had do make a decision about whether I was willing to act as an escrow agent. Condor proposed that in Amsterdam. And, to be honest, I was unsure I wanted to take on that role since it is something we have never done before. But I did agree because I felt that assisting an affiliate in getting paid was something I wanted to do even though the approach was something that did not make me completely comfortable.

    In terms of knowing extra information, I really don't know that much. The fact that Condor was willing to immediately place the funds in escrow for payment to the affiliate removed most of the concerns I had regarding the situation. And if I were the affiliate in question, I would have been happy with that outcome. I have felt Condor's communications with me on the matter have been professional, and are consistent with the type of interactions I have with programs when I feel they are trying to do the right thing. That is, in large part, why I accepted Condor's proposal.

    Instead, I seem to find myself in the middle being accused of taking sides and withholding information. That's just not fair.

    Please, either accept what is proposed or reject it. Personally, I think the wise move is to accept it.

    Michael
    So here is what has happened. Originally, Condor were the villains withholding payment until such time that they could find reason to keep the money rather than pay their affiliate on the timeline set up in their terms. Now, the same villains are offering to escrow the funds to buy time to find a way not to pay. While this should make them slightly less villainous, this story line turns them into the hero...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    So here is what has happened. Originally, Condor were the villains withholding payment until such time that they could find reason to keep the money rather than pay their affiliate on the timeline set up in their terms. Now, the same villains are offering to escrow the funds to buy time to find a way not to pay. While this should make them slightly less villainous, this story line turns them into the hero...
    I don't view Condor as a hero here. In my opinion they are not. However, I don't view them as villains either. Because in my opinion they are not.

    I was called upon to share what I believe, and I made an attempt to explain part of what I have seen that had not already been expressed in this thread.

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    @dirk20 Hi, I hope that this will all be resolved for you very soon in the very near future and you get your payment in full as you're supposed to. Have a nice day and all the best to you too!

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    From my take it comes down to this.


    • Condor have accused Dirk of fraudulant activity(s). That's why they have to date, refused payment.
    • Dirk has deny these alligations, insisting Condor is using "fraud" as an excuse not to pay.


    While this is not a court, I would think the principles behind such a venue, should prevail here too. That is, it's Condor's obligation to prove beyond reasonable doubt, that Dirk performed fraudulant activities. Otherwise pay the E4,500+ owed.


    • Condor hold all the cards here. Yet to date (Condor 1'st posted to the thread 30'th June 2017), they are still unable to provide factual proof that Dirk has committed fraud. But not only do they have no issue calling Dirk a fraudster, but the powers that be here, allow these unproven claims to continue.


    Those who want to give Condor more time to prove what should be readily available and on hand, now, should take a leaf from the pages of Montie Python (Holy Grail), and see if Dirk weights the same as a DUCK!

    Cause what's happening right now seems like a witch hunt.

    In almost 5 weeks Condor has been unable to provide any proof, not a single skerik of factual proof, proving that Dirk performed fruadulant activity(s) to procure this E4,500+ commission due.

    I think it would be a fair to say, no proof has been provided by Condor because there is no evidence to prove Dirk is a fraudster. Instead Condor simply don't want to pay their affiliate

    As far as the Escrow matter... It's nothing more than a time-giver to Condor, allowing them further time to fabricate false facts.
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    VILLAGER #1: We have found a witch, might we burn her?
    CROWD: Burn her! Burn!
    BEDEVERE: How do you know she is a witch?
    VILLAGER #2: She looks like one.

    BEDEVERE: Bring her forward.

    WITCH: I'm not a witch. I'm not a witch.
    BEDEVERE: But you are dressed as one.
    WITCH: They dressed me up like this.
    CROWD: No, we didn't -- no.
    WITCH: And this isn't my nose, it's a false one.

    BEDEVERE: Well?

    VILLAGER #1: Well, we did do the nose.

    BEDEVERE: The nose?

    VILLAGER #1: And the hat -- but she is a witch!
    CROWD: Burn her! Witch! Witch! Burn her!

    BEDEVERE: Did you dress her up like this?

    CROWD: No, no... no... yes. Yes, yes, a bit, a bit.

    VILLAGER #1: She has got a wart.

    BEDEVERE: What makes you think she is a witch?

    VILLAGER #3: Well, she turned me into a newt.
    BEDEVERE: A newt?
    VILLAGER #3: I got better.
    VILLAGER #2: Burn her anyway!
    CROWD: Burn! Burn her!

    BEDEVERE: Quiet! quiet! Quiet! There are ways of telling whether she is a witch.

    CROWD: Are there? What are they?
    VILLAGER #2: Do they hurt?
    BEDEVERE: Tell me, what do you do with witches?
    VILLAGER #2: Burn!
    CROWD: Burn, burn them up!

    BEDEVERE: And what do you burn apart from witches?

    VILLAGER #1: More witches!
    VILLAGER #2: Wood!
    BEDEVERE: So, why do witches burn?
    [pause]

    VILLAGER #3: B--... 'cause they're made of wood?
    BEDEVERE: Good!
    CROWD: Oh yeah, yeah.

    BEDEVERE: So, how do we tell whether she is made of wood?

    VILLAGER #1: Build a bridge out of her.
    BEDEVERE: Aah, but can you not also make bridges out of stone?
    VILLAGER #2: Oh, yeah.
    BEDEVERE: Does wood sink in water?
    VILLAGER #1: No, no.
    VILLAGER #2: It floats! It floats!
    VILLAGER #1: Throw her into the pond!
    CROWD: The pond!

    BEDEVERE: What also floats in water?

    VILLAGER #1: Bread!
    VILLAGER #2: Apples!
    VILLAGER #3: Very small rocks!
    VILLAGER #1: Cider!
    VILLAGER #2: Uhhh, gravy!
    VILLAGER #1: Cherries!
    VILLAGER #2: Mud!
    VILLAGER #3: Churches -- churches!
    VILLAGER #2: Lead -- lead!

    ARTHUR: A duck.

    CROWD: Oooh.

    BEDEVERE: Exactly! So, logically...

    VILLAGER #1: If... she... weighs the same as a duck.. she's made of wood.
    BEDEVERE: And therefore?
    VILLAGER #1: A witch!
    CROWD: A witch! A witch! A witch!

    BEDEVERE: We shall use my largest scales!
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtyunby65 View Post
    @dirk20 Hi, I hope that this will all be resolved for you very soon in the very near future and you get your payment in full as you're supposed to. Have a nice day and all the best to you too!
    This is very polite and the goal, most of us share, but unfortunately it can not be reached only with harmony and some chocolate cake. Not even a wet T-shirt contest can change the mood in the moment in this thread. There is a simple reason. When there is anything with Condor, then there is no happiness.

    Quote Originally Posted by happyfeet View Post
    Condor have accused Dirk of fraudulant activity(s). [...] Dirk has deny these alligations, insisting Condor is using "fraud" as an excuse not to pay. [...] Those who want to give Condor more time to prove what should be readily available and on hand, now, should take a leaf from the pages of Montie Python (Holy Grail), and see if Dirk weights the same as a DUCK! [...] In almost 5 weeks Condor has been unable to provide any proof, not a single skerik of factual proof, proving that Dirk performed fruadulant activity(s) to procure this E4,500+ commission due. [...] the Escrow matter... It's nothing more than a time-giver to Condor, allowing them further time to fabricate false facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    So here is what has happened. Originally, Condor were the villains withholding payment until such time that they could find reason to keep the money rather than pay their affiliate on the timeline set up in their terms. Now, the same villains are offering to escrow the funds to buy time to find a way not to pay. While this should make them slightly less villainous, this story line turns them into the hero...
    Both statements are straight and display the crux of the matter.

    A personal note:

    "My view is that you are making a presentation of only a portion of the truth that you know paints a false picture. Condor Affiliates did hold a valid sub-license in Curacao"

    Exactly. And because everything was so fine with the liqueur store license, every idiot can purchase there, they on the quiet removed the license link completely from the casino websites instead fixing the link direction after caught red handed. Yes, there was nothing wrong with it. Nothing wrong all the years before they started the GPWA sponsorship with the non working license link. Of course not, I have to apologize.

    The same situation with the Club Gold license, that was added later after caught red handed using unauthorized license seals with official confirmation about that fraud from the license company. Yes, everything was fine also in this case. And also the AffArrogance refusal to provide the license number since weeks is common and complete normal. Yes, we are so proud of our professional working programs.

    With everything else I am also wrong. I was wrong with Buffalo months and months and months, right?! And now so many people are wrong with this Condor geniuses. Of course, players, who are winning, are nothing else than "gang members". We all know that. We all stand to that. How could I forgot that? This is not only Condor standard. This is regular standard in this industry, right?

    And the best thing is: Condor does not need to sent any representatives here, no one is needed to answer questions or made a statement here in this thread, because you are defending them so good. Everyone of this so wonderful caring Condor family simply vanished here from this thread at once, like my Buffalo satire video art from the forum, in the dead of night.

    Dear readers, Condor Affiliates is our real model. With a fantastic 2.5/10 Ask Gamblers rating and a professional spammer in the team, who assaulted GPWA with lunatic tactics during a 36 hours rampage, they are not heros but close to that.

    If this losers are the standard in this industry, then everyone is close to a hero, because the standard then is so low, that even an ape with two - not one! - two scoops of ice cream on the eyes could open a program, and he would do it better than Condor.

    It is now night here in Germany.
    I have to go to bed.
    Dear audience, Mr. President, close to heros friends from Condor and my sweetheart Fernanda, I wish you all a good night and a wonderful 8.5/10 rating sleep.

    Leopold

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