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    Is it ever so simple? The whole state / Federal jurisdiction distinction could be a problem. I believe the question is framed something along the lines of whether the Web is an inter-state commerce network. I have my fingers crossed, sure .

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    Delaware is not going to be taking players from outside it's borders.

    The Delaware model of government run online casinos will not last, IMO.
    ANYTHING that is run for profit and ran by a government is doomed to fail... Elected officials are totally corrupt morons.
    IMO, it is just a matter of time till the tax payers in DE. will be forced to cover the costs of their state ran failing online casino.

    Just not enough people in Delaware to support full blown online gambling inside their borders... and who wants to gamble with the State and have Government Officials looking over your shoulder(and up your ass) every time you play a game for money... Not me.

    I can't wait to see how that "Geolocation Software" works out for them... lol

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    I agree. I don't know how they will sustain themselves within their borders. NJ wants the same and you can only play in that State. Although they will allow anyone visiting to play as well but they may be depending on the tourism to AC a little to much.

    IMO that will change as the dollar signs give incentive to open to other States. Similar to most all of them jumping in to the Powerball and Mega Millions multi-state lotteries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    IMO that will change as the dollar signs give incentive to open to other States. Similar to most all of them jumping in to the Powerball and Mega Millions multi-state lotteries.
    Totally agree.

    Not just the money either.
    Once these States start to realize the technology just does not exist to limit players to people just within their physical boarders, they will be forced to 'open' it all up.

    Mind you, I know mobiles can be located to within feet, but other devices, without GPS, like most pc/laptops/tablets are not so easy to geo locate using only IP's.

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    Maybe in short time, all state will follow Nevada and this problem will disappear.

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    Obviously this is all good, and a big step in the right direction, however, it occurs to me that with the current difficulties using credit cards, debit cards, etc., due to UIGEA, something needs to happen to kill UIGEA so the money can move freely again in and of course back out for the winners.

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    The UGIEA does not apply to Online Casino Gambling.
    It is NOT the UGIEA that is causing problems with CC transfers.

    It is an "agreement" the DOJ forced the CC companies to go along with that stops the CC companies from processing payments... there is no law in the US that forbids Credit Card companies from transfering payments to and from legit online casinos.

    That is why the UGIEA does not need to be changed(and is not going to be changed) for Nevada, New Jersey or Delaware to operate online casinos.

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    UIGEA is in fact what halted commerce via credit cards for all online gambling activity in the US. Money was moving OK until UIEGA was enacted. At that time the Credit Card Companies uniformly began refusing anything that even looked like it might be online gambling. So say what you will, but, if that process isn't reversed, and/OR the Credit Card Companies informed that they can now start LEGALLY processing online gambling transactions, they aren't going to do it.

    That of course creates another series of problems. There is no way Credit Card Companies are going to be able to monitor a few states for legal transactions, while most others aren't. The impossible dream!
    Like I said, it's all a step in the right direction, but there is still a lot more to do so the money can flow again.

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