Poker - how to choose room for a promotion?

[mAestro]

Hi guys!

I'm new around here, as you can notice
But, I'm not new to the affiliate marketing at all.

I have been thinking to promote 888poker and 888casino as a "combo", but then I have read that I should avoid that company at all costs.
That supports my fears regarding Israeli companies (in general).

Now, I don't have a clue how to find a decent poker affiliate program to promote.
I'm pretty sure that I can drive 10-50 new poker players every month, but I would like to get nice CPAs as 888poker is offering.

Is that something that can be found online nowadays?

Anything else close to that?


Thanks!

[universal4]

Intertops
Betonline (if you dont mind the quota and a few other quirks)
Bet365 hard to get approved but top notch

You may also get a few other recommendations from others.

Rick
Universal4

[TheGooner]

Is that something that can be found online nowadays?

Do you play poker online?

What about actually recommending your preferred place to play to readers - you know as a real opinion (gasp!).
Radical thinking ... but it will probably serve you well in terms of reader satisfaction and retention.

888poker and 888casino offer juicy fat CPA's as a headline - because they nearly always find a way not to pay after a couple of months.

[mAestro]

Intertops
Betonline (if you dont mind the quota and a few other quirks)
Bet365 hard to get approved but top notch

You may also get a few other recommendations from others.

Rick
Universal4

Hey Rick,
these look pretty good, especially Intertops, I must say. At least at first.
I will dig deeper tonight around here.

Btw. do you know if Bet365 offers CPA on poker for some affiliates?

Do you play poker online?

What about actually recommending your preferred place to play to readers - you know as a real opinion (gasp!).
Radical thinking ... but it will probably serve you well in terms of reader satisfaction and retention.

888poker and 888casino offer juicy fat CPA's as a headline - because they nearly always find a way not to pay after a couple of months.

No, I haven't played poker for a very long time now.
I'm sure 'my' players will be satisfied with suggested poker rooms and casinos since I will do proper research on every one of them before suggesting them.

Thanks for the info about 888. I have found some other threads under the "Uaffiliates" and my fears about Israeli company have been confirmed.
I'm avoiding them like a plague.

[Tex Holdem Questions]

I don't think Bet365 are accepting many new affiliates.

Try looking at William Hill?

[Cash Bonus]

Welcome to the GPWA, mAestro.

You can also give PokerStars Partners a try. They’re part of the Stars Affiliate Club.

[mAestro]

I don't think Bet365 are accepting many new affiliates.


Try looking at William Hill?

Thanks for the WH suggestion. I will check them thoroughly as well.
I see that they offer 15% on poker and for now I prefer promoting Intertops for that purpose.

Do you have any insights on why Bet365 isn't accepting (many) new affiliates?

Either way, my plan was to promote other brands and when I can show some success with that then apply for Bet365.

Welcome to the GPWA, mAestro.

You can also give PokerStars Partners a try. They’re part of the Stars Affiliate Club.

Thanks CB.
I know already about them, but for now, I will aim for brands that are not widely popular.

[PROFRBcom]

CPA for poker is a money loser. Unless you are delivering 2k+ users a month and getting 80%+ lifetime value up front, don't go for CPA. Revenue share is your friend.

PokerStars blatantly closed "lifetime contracts" with hundreds of affiliates and unilaterally changed terms to only 2 years of pay from previous lifetime payments. Avoid them.

WRT to other poker sites to offer, it depends on what markets you are going after as there are decent options in many markets, but few who work for all markets.

[mAestro]

CPA for poker is a money loser. Unless you are delivering 2k+ users a month and getting 80%+ lifetime value up front, don't go for CPA. Revenue share is your friend.

PokerStars blatantly closed "lifetime contracts" with hundreds of affiliates and unilaterally changed terms to only 2 years of pay from previous lifetime payments. Avoid them.

WRT to other poker sites to offer, it depends on what markets you are going after as there are decent options in many markets, but few who work for all markets.

Your answer gave me a lot to think about.

Revenue share is my friend, as you say. Even in countries where people will not probably spend, on average, more than 50$ on slots, poker, sport betting online?
Actually, that's my guess, although I can see that a lot of local casinos and 'clubs' are making a killing (I know some actual numbers).

I'm not sure what you mean under "what markets I'm going after"?
I don't have any specific plan yet. I don't see how can I have it before I test an idea or two I already have. After that I will know should I continue in the same direction or not.

At the moment I will promote poker, casino and maybe sport betting to the same people.

After considering your and all above answers I have decided that I will pick 1 poker room and 1 casino to promote during this month, and then probably add one new poker room next month.

Exciting times ahead

[PROFRBcom]

Your answer gave me a lot to think about.

Revenue share is my friend, as you say. Even in countries where people will not probably spend, on average, more than 50$ on slots, poker, sport betting online?

If you send a lot of traffic from these countries, it will dilute the average customer value.

With a low average customer value, you will find that the programs you work with want to lower your CPAs, or simply find ways NOT to pay you your commission!

After considering your and all above answers I have decided that I will pick 1 poker room and 1 casino to promote during this month, and then probably add one new poker room next month.

Exciting times ahead

What poker rooms did you decide on? Did you have any success? Did you choose CPA, revenue share, or a hybrid?

(sorry for the late response, I have lots of open tabs and I am cleaning them out and replying to old messages/threads, some of them over a year old!! -- I am disorganized )