Posting links for Grand Prive blacklist here

**bb1web** · 28 May 2009, 9:16 pm

Hi all and thank you for coming in,

I looked earlier today at several forums and couldn't find any threads that have people posting their blacklist pages so I thought I'd start a new.

I have two to offer right now

http://www.bondedcasinos.com/warning...rive-rogue.htm

and

http://www.slotsharks.com/rogue-Micr...rand-Prive.htm

I'll be adding some more pages in coming days so if anyone wants to post their blacklist links ... I'll add them to my pages.

**GamTrak** · 28 May 2009, 9:26 pm

Thanks for staying on this Steve! I'll update my pages and post early next week.

http://www.gamtrak.com/GrandPriveBlacklisted.htm

**LiveCasinoPartners** · 28 May 2009, 9:52 pm

Here's mine Steve:
http://www.best-online-casino-affili.../blacklist.php

**giggles7p** · 29 May 2009, 12:16 am

Hi,

I have linked to everyone here, here is my link page..

http://triple7s73714.yuku.com/topic/3310

Thanks Steve for getting me involved, it feels good!

Pat

**Integrity** · 29 May 2009, 4:59 am

Friends...

In addition to the old Grand Prive videos, we will hopefully have a new one out in a week or two.

Also... be sure to check out this weeks Perspectives Weekly for May 29th... I think we can use pieces from it to help the cause.

.

**TreasureChest** · 29 May 2009, 11:41 pm

Here is mine...
http://vegastreasurechest.com/casino_scams.html

was

http://vegastreasurechest.com/rogue_casinos.html

**MichaelCorfman** · 30 May 2009, 1:14 am

Well,

I generally don't announce new development projects until they are finished, but since a project nearing completion is very related to the subject matter of this thread, I'll give a prelude to what I will be able to officially announce soon.

We're in the midst of building a whole infrastructure to support community roguing efforts. We'll roll this out first for use with Grand Prive, although on the back-end we are building it in a general way so we will be able to use it for lots more than just that.

The infrastrucure we are building will let an individual GPWA member say they are roguing the various grand prive properties, and then provide the urls of the web pages where they have done that.

Then we are building an APCW rogue page for grand prive that will have links to all of the sites we've been told about that way with links to the corresponding pages.

And we will also provide web services so that anyone who wants can also include the list of sites roguing them on their own pages without all of this manual updating by everyone of their own lists of such sites.

We want to make it easy to work together as a community and to give credit to each other for doing so. And we want to help facilitate high SERP ratings for GPWA member rogue pages.

Michael

**giggles7p** · 30 May 2009, 7:56 am

Outstanding Michael and GPWA! Your whole staff.

This will be greatly appreciated and widely used i do believe.

Now lets get the trash put out on the streets!

Pat

**GamTrak** · 30 May 2009, 1:23 pm

Originally Posted by giggles7p

Outstanding Michael and GPWA! Your whole staff.

This will be greatly appreciated and widely used i do believe.

Now lets get the trash put out on the streets!

Pat

DITTO!

What a wonderful tool for our industry that will be! WTG Michael and GPWA!

**bb1web** · 30 May 2009, 1:33 pm

Cannot agree and thank you enough Mr C.

here's what my research has told me and I've posted this several places.

.....

Affiliates have done a poor job with their blacklist efforts according to my research.

These casinos do not have enough blacklist warnings for their keyword, they should have several blacklist warnings come up in descriptions whenever that keyword is searched and some of them have none, others may have one or two on the page. We should have the whole page of descriptions below theirs ... exclaiming blacklist to get searchers attention.

grand bay casino (2 blacklist descriptions)
jupiter club
Lake Palace casino
Road House Reels casino
Fortune Junction casino (2 blacklist descriptions at bottom of page)
Jackpot Wheel casino (1 blacklist description, 3 rank - casino city description needs updating)
Villa Fortuna casino (2 blacklist descrpitions)

**joeyl** · 30 May 2009, 1:38 pm

A linking widget is a decent idea. & i'm all for rogueing rogues.

I have read surely most of the Grand Prive warnings. Things have moved since then though.

This whole debacle raises the question of: is the casino responsible when a marketing solution goes bust?

That is what I gather is the case.

None of you want to be seen to be unfairly rogueing Grand Prive if they are victims too. That is what is being alleged has happened, reading between the lines.

You might have the right contacts Michael. Can you get a straight explanation from those concerned please?

**bb1web** · 31 May 2009, 6:28 am

Bottom line is the casino wouldn't have the players if we hadn't sent them. Where does any kind of debacle enter into it? this is already done and if these players are playing then the affiliates have a right to the money owed them.

However I'm always open to hear explanations. But it also begs to question if that is true why wasn't the affiliate community made aware.

AB's explanation or rather inference that as he put it "a certain watchdog" had prevented an explanation .. well that doesn't cut it for me. I don't think a letter to each effected affiliate is out of the question. But certainly an effort better than we have seen so far was in order.

but really what can they say that explains the theft of players already signed up?

**MichaelCorfman** · 31 May 2009, 4:57 pm

Originally Posted by bb1web

Cannot agree and thank you enough Mr C.

here's what my research has told me and I've posted this several places.

.....

Affiliates have done a poor job with their blacklist efforts according to my research.

These casinos do not have enough blacklist warnings for their keyword, they should have several blacklist warnings come up in descriptions whenever that keyword is searched and some of them have none, others may have one or two on the page. We should have the whole page of descriptions below theirs ... exclaiming blacklist to get searchers attention.

grand bay casino (2 blacklist descriptions)
jupiter club
Lake Palace casino
Road House Reels casino
Fortune Junction casino (2 blacklist descriptions at bottom of page)
Jackpot Wheel casino (1 blacklist description, 3 rank - casino city description needs updating)
Villa Fortuna casino (2 blacklist descrpitions)

We're trying to address some of that issue with the approach we are taking. Specifically, on the APCW website we are going to have separate rogue pages for each casino, and links from each of those pages to rogue pages for the specific online casino. So, if someone rogues all of the Grand Prive-related casinos, we will have links for each separate casino to their page that identify in the linking text that the specified casino is rogues, or blacklisted, or whatever on that page. Because you are absolutely right, the page headers and links on most of what is being done today reference grand prive, and not the individual casinos, so the effect on search results for individual casino names is not effected to the extent it could be.

Working together with the right supporting infrastructure, that can be fixed.

Michael

**Engineer** · 1 June 2009, 11:11 am

Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman

...we are going to have separate rogue pages for each casino, and links from each of those pages to rogue pages for the specific online casino. So, if someone rogues all of the Grand Prive-related casinos, we will have links for each separate casino to their page that identify in the linking text that the specified casino is rogues, or blacklisted, or whatever on that page. Because you are absolutely right, the page headers and links on most of what is being done today reference grand prive, and not the individual casinos, so the effect on search results for individual casino names is not effected to the extent it could be.

This is outstanding.

I have a rogue page for each casino, along with the "Grand Prive group" itself. Feel free to link to the specific pages below, and I'll link back to your specific pages when they're ready, in the way you described above.

Grand Prive Rogue
Villa Fortuna Casino
Bella Vegas Casino
Casino Grand Bay
Lake Palace Casino
Road House Reels
Jupiter Club Casino
Jackpot Wheel Casino
Fortune Junction Casino

Also, there is the main Rogue Online Casinos page.

**rmeeuwsen** · 1 June 2009, 1:19 pm

I just put up a list from the initial thread. At
http://www.casinocomments.info/2009/...d-casinos.html

Please add me to the list of sites with a list.
Once a final list is done I'll update my own.

Thanks

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**giggles7p** · 1 June 2009, 10:47 pm

To Everyone here, We have opened up a Rogue Page also over at Gamblingaffiliateplace.com and i would like to ask if i may start linking all your pages to our page also? I do not want to do this without your consent, so please leave me a yes or no, it would be very much appreciated.

Thank you
Pat

**Engineer** · 1 June 2009, 11:35 pm

Hi Pat,

Feel free to link to all of the pages I listed above (a few posts up).

I'm happy to link back -- just let me know the URL of the page(s) I should be linking to.

**raphnix** · 2 June 2009, 12:14 am

My suggestion is to beat the SE ranking of grandprive keyword in major SEs to actually warn players from their casinos. So far, a good result of blacklist articles are tailing the main site of the grandprive keywords in Google http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=grand...fp=2Inaafc1UxE

**pgaming** · 2 June 2009, 1:10 am

Originally Posted by raphnix

My suggestion is to beat the SE ranking of grandprive keyword in major SEs to actually warn players from their casinos. So far, a good result of blacklist articles are tailing the main site of the grandprive keywords in Google http://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=grand...fp=2Inaafc1UxE

I share your thoughts no question. Players must understand as well if things go south (bad) they have little or no recourse. If webmasters do not have access to Grand Deprive's bargaining table there is one alternative Ecogra.

A huge risk not many would take. Webmasters are here in most cases to help the player IMO.

BTW: awesome work Engineer! Makes me want to buy a few squat domains lol.

greek39

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