RedReturns.com banned me for no reason

[lucasworkshop]

Hello,
I have steped into a RedReturn.com promotion yesterday and since I am into gambling business for 6 years and I know quite a lot of people that gamble online...

My usual technique is to ask people if they want to try out a new casino for free in the manner that I give them full cashback for minimum deposit to try it out...

I understand that this is not possible with CPA deals because it's a suicide but I am working on revenue share which means I am spending my own money to get casino players and it's my own thing...


RedReturn.com representative asked me how did i get these 5 referrals and i told everything as is... they shut down my affiliate account ...

that's it about them

It is simply hilarious because I am working on revenue share lol... which means if I pay $100 for 5 new entrances if all the money is lost i will get back $25 lol... I can only earn if at least one of my referrals comes back and deposits again, possibly more then one time lol...


so what is the problem with them?
they just closed my account saying that I broke their terms and that this is unethical in this industry lol...


Am I dumb or my affiliate manager is dumb? One of us surely is lol...

I called him to discuss mathematics and explain how exactly I am ruining their business lol... but he doesn't want to explain.


I don't remember that any casino complained about it as long as I work on rev share only lol... so i realy didn't get this... any suggestions?

[Miles_FTA]

Hello Good People of GPWA

Regarding his actual issue.

We decided to close the affiliates account as we do not condone incentivizing players in this manner. There was no commission due and we decided it was best we part ways, once the affiliate informed us of how he was referring traffic. We are not accusing the affiliate of fraud, however this practice is open to unethical behavior. We cannot provide the details on how this is exploited, as this will increase the risk for the program.

Thanks



RedReturns | Myron Saacks | Affiliate Acquisition

email : myrons@redreturns.com
skype : miles.sax1
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Hello,
I have steped into a RedReturn.com promotion yesterday and since I am into gambling business for 6 years and I know quite a lot of people that gamble online...

My usual technique is to ask people if they want to try out a new casino for free in the manner that I give them full cashback for minimum deposit to try it out...

I understand that this is not possible with CPA deals because it's a suicide but I am working on revenue share which means I am spending my own money to get casino players and it's my own thing...


RedReturn.com representative asked me how did i get these 5 referrals and i told everything as is... they shut down my affiliate account ...

that's it about them

It is simply hilarious because I am working on revenue share lol... which means if I pay $100 for 5 new entrances if all the money is lost i will get back $25 lol... I can only earn if at least one of my referrals comes back and deposits again, possibly more then one time lol...


so what is the problem with them?
they just closed my account saying that I broke their terms and that this is unethical in this industry lol...


Am I dumb or my affiliate manager is dumb? One of us surely is lol...

I called him to discuss mathematics and explain how exactly I am ruining their business lol... but he doesn't want to explain.


I don't remember that any casino complained about it as long as I work on rev share only lol... so i realy didn't get this... any suggestions?

[theGman]

I think you might mean do not condone Myron instead of condone

Do you specify this in your terms and conditions ?

[lucasworkshop]

no they have not specified that in terms, I have checked before doing it...
none affiliate program specified this in revenue share terms... but ok... there are enoug of others...

anyway...

one of my friends won €103 in roulette... this prooves that I didn't send you some fly-by people... I sent gamblers lol... since you don't want any more of them it's cool...

why isn't she paid yet?
don't tell me She broke the rules by depositing money and playing lol

so realy... this affiliate stuff is ok... you have a right to choose with whom you will work with... I am not crazy about working with you either don't worry lol


hey, they do not incentivize players only offer a deposit bonus which is not incentive lol ...

also to make it better I have instructed my players not to claim bonus if possible... only 1 of them claimed...

I am so sorry, but I know who are my referrals always as I do not hide myself from them

[universal4]

I am siding with the affiliate group on this one.

If you are offering cash back, you are effectively paying them to play and that is incentivizing the players.

This is against the terms of just about every single affiliate group on the market.

Rick
Universal4

[lucasworkshop]

hey

yes ok, if I was offering a cashback that would be incentivized...

but I did not... I offered cash advance... and there is a big difference between cashback and cashadvance lol

do you want to play in a new casino for free? yes... ok go to this one and tell them I sent you... here's the money... see you later


I think my method is the best there is

Only a mathematical explanation can satisfy me .

is gambling a profitable business?
yes

then if you want to succeed give people real money instead of bull***t...

that is ethical...


what is unethical is to ask people to put in their own money from something you will profit later... and continue to profit even more later... oh how unethical I was realy lol


let's find a casino player that thinks I am unethical

[lucasworkshop]

RedFlush.com casino did not pay winnings to my referral player lol
They kept asking more documents untill she quits...

We will now write it all over the world