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    We are in discussions with Roxy, they are aware of the desire for action against them. Unfortunately, our main contact is out of town until May 15, nothing can really be resolved until then. We will be post an update after we communicate further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    We are in discussions with Roxy, they are aware of the desire for action against them. Unfortunately, our main contact is out of town until May 15, nothing can really be resolved until then. We will be post an update after we communicate further.
    The update is appreciated, Anthony, but I think you should suspend Roxy from GPWA - TODAY. There is sufficient evidence of wrongdoing. You should pull Roxy today and reinstate them if/when they make enough amends. Waiting another 8 days for just another update isn't nearly enough at the moment.

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    I agree with Rob. GPWA should do something now -- today -- with both Roxy and Brightshare.

    Why is the main point of contact at Roxy unavailable? Where is he? Doesn't he have a mobile phone or internet access where he is? During a time like this, when their business is crumbling and facing an enormous backlash, why is he completely unavailable for more than a week? This makes no sense.

    Or maybe it does make sense, if you consider that perhaps they don't give two shits about what they are doing to their affiliates. If they did care, they would make an effort to get this resolved immediately.

    It is NOT OKAY to let a program get away with something so severe without being punished immediately.

    Please DO SOMETHING about this.

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    Anthony,

    I know it is not your call whether a program can or cannot be removed/suspended from the GPWA and you are only passing on the message from the top. So this is not in anyway directed at you.

    However, Michael needs to be aware if he is not already aware that affiliates are not happy at having these changes forced upon them by Roxy's actions.

    It was Roxy that changed and moved the goal posts without dialogue, not the other way around.

    Therefore they should be suspended from the GPWA immediately. They can then be the ones to suffer whilst the GPWA's Roxy Affiliates contact is out of town for a week.

    I don't see what the problem is, unless of course it means GPWA will have to refund Roxy's sponsorship money. If this is the real reason why Roxy Affiliates remain as a sponsored program here, then the GPWA is a sham and not working in the interests of affiliates.
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    I get what you guys are saying about suspending them today, but it would not be productive for us to suspend them while we are in the middle of discussions and our main contact is out of town. It would essentially ends the negotiation process.

    I have made it clear that these issues not only risk severe damage to Roxy Affiliate's reputation but also jeopardize our ability to work with them going forward. I want affiliates to know we will continue fighting the fight and working to find compromise when we can and removing programs when we need to take a stand.

    I am sorry the process takes so long, but sometimes it’s worth the all time and effort we put in to try to get to a better place.

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    I get what you guys are saying about suspending them today, but it would not be productive for us to suspend them while we are in the middle of discussions and our main contact is out of town. It would essentially end the negotiation process.
    I'm sorry but I disagree.

    They changed the rules and as a result of doing so, they should face the consequences of their actions, which includes suspending them from the GPWA. They were not bothered in negotiating with us when they made the changes after all.

    It is very clear, that so far AGD is the only site that has OUR interests first.
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    Thumbs down Roxy Affiliates

    For me it does not matter what they still do either way, even in case they decide to leave things as they were before.

    By not honoring their own terms and ignoring this issue altogether this company has clearly proven that they cannot be trusted anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    I get what you guys are saying about suspending them today, but it would not be productive for us to suspend them while we are in the middle of discussions and our main contact is out of town. It would essentially ends the negotiation process.
    Your contact was not out of town when this whole issue arose. It has not stopped other sites chucking them on a rogue list, blacklisting list or removing them completely.

    I have made it clear that these issues not only risk severe damage to Roxy Affiliate's reputation but also jeopardize our ability to work with them going forward. I want affiliates to know we will continue fighting the fight and working to find compromise when we can and removing programs when we need to take a stand.
    To late, theirs and Brightshares are ruined as it is, and here I was thinking GPWA was in our corner fighting the good fight.

    I am sorry the process takes so long, but sometimes it’s worth the all time and effort we put in to try to get to a better place.

    Next week I will have an update.
    I cannot believe you would not suspend them on the premises they didn't even discuss the changes with you guys, other sites like CAP, AGD or even their own affiliates.

    Why is that they get the chance to wait it out and discuss the matter whilst screwing affiliates in the mean time, yet they didn't even give their partners a 2nd thought?

    For now I have removed my GPWA seal and will not be bothering to apply for the seal with my other site/s until I see some action, its not looking good for the GPWA atm I am afraid.
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    For now I have removed my GPWA seal and will not be bothering to apply for the seal with my other site/s until I see some action, its not looking good for the GPWA atm I am afraid.
    Anyone who has the seal in place should remove it, it has no value at all anymore.

    Ridiculous to see GPWA wants to buy time in order not to lose their sponsor money.

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    CAP has now 'suspended' Brightshare and 'rogued' Roxy.
    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ghtshare-.html

    No matter what GPWA does now, it is/was the last to act, and even if GPWA does the right thing now, it will be seen as following the rest, due to pressure, not because it was the right thing to do.

    GPWA missed a chance here. Big time.

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    I was thinking to promote roxyaff a few weaks ago and I didn t. Good call for me. GPWA watch and learn:the others forums have different approach for this problem.

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    I have made the post quoted below in the GPWA Announcement forum. You can see the post containing the announcement here:

    Roxy Affiliates Sponsorship Suspended.

    With this announcement I have closed this thread. Further discussion can take place in the above thread.

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    Over the past day we have had some additional interactions with Roxy Affiliates concerning the closing of affiliate accounts. Our communications have been limited, and not with the individuals within Roxy Affiliates that we feel are in the greatest position to be responsive to affiliates. However, we view that the interactions we have had over the past day are not consistent with our expectations based on the email exchanges and conference call we previously held with the Roxy team.

    The recent interactions, which took place this morning, indicate that a further decision has been made to not reopen some of the accounts for which reconsideration was requested. In light of this development, we don't feel the spirit of our prior discussions with Roxy Affiliates are being honored in the way we anticipated.

    Accordingly, I have made a decision to suspend Roxy Affiliates as a GPWA sponsor with immediate effect. We remain committed to continued communication and discussion with Roxy Affiliates in an effort to reach a better resolution of the current situation.
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    I'm pleased to be able to say that the discussions we have had with Roxy Affiliates over the past month have yielded positive results. Roxy Affiliates has announced earlier today that they are reviewing and reopening closed accounts. You can see their full announcement and my comments in the following thread:

    Roxy Affiliates announcement

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