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    Exclamation RoyalClubAffiliates : commission on pending since 6 months

    It's been now 6 months, since september 2011 that I did not receive any commission payments from royalclubaffiliates regarding the promotion of casinoroyalclub. The affiliate manager supposedly called "Dan Varley" is telling me since that time, that he is in touch with the payment department to speed up the payment process. However, nothing comes, despite Dan's recurrent promises.

    -1st reason:
    The first reason he gave to me was the one of the famous "ddos attack" which affected mainly top games casinos in november 2011. But apparently, RIVAL as well has been affected, and royalclubaffiliates had to wait for the problem to be sorted before processing to the affiliate payments. Here is below, the conversation with Dan at that time :

    [25/11/2011 14:21:51] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: They said that all problem will be sorted asap
    [25/11/2011 14:22:09] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: Ddos Attack more on Top game Casino
    [25/11/2011 14:22:29] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: but they effected RIVAL as well
    [25/11/2011 14:24:18] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: We have to wait until all problem will be resolved
    but RIVAL has technical error right now
    [25/11/2011 14:29:04] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: They cann't proceed affiliates payment, player's withdrawl etc
    [25/11/2011 14:29:19] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: even Our casino client is not working
    [25/11/2011 14:29:50] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: We cann't do any thing until all problem will be resolved

    -2nd reason:
    The second reason he gave to me, was given today, on the 06/03/2012. Apparently, casinoroyalclub has got some fraud. So let's supposed that it is true, and they have got some fraud affiliates. Let's imagine that in fact, RoyalClubAffiliates does not want to pay it's affiliates, and maybe also it's winner players, simply because Royalclubaffiliate underwent fraud from affiliates? So let's continue to imaginate that they are forced to pay all their partner affiliates and players, they would probably put their activity in financial difficulties? This would be understandable. But if it is the case, and I insist on the "if it is the case" cause I'm not here to tell wrong stories about anyone, but I can not stop myself to suppose a case of that type, because they are not able to give me a proper reason which could be reliable. So if it is the case, I guess it is the time for online casinos to learn how being fairplay, and they have to learn that when they lose, they have to pay. If the problem is really coming from "fraud" then it is up to them to bear the consequences of their mistakes. If they are not able to structure properly their team, in terms of efficient human resources in different strategical departments as affiliation, marketing and fraud checking departments (because I have seen many times the case in many casinos), "we" as affiliates, we must not be those who suffer from their mistakes.

    Prove below:

    [10:24:56] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: i am doing our best to clear your pending payments..........
    [10:25:34] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: due to some fraudulent CPA deal, that's problem occur

    I only wanted to warn everyone on the doubtfull practices of that casino. They owe me today an amount of exactly $3368 that have been generated between september 2011 and january 2012. It's been now 6 months that i'm waiting for the payment.

    Last word for everyone, regarding that casino, I strongly suggest for the ones who are already promoting them, to stop publishing anymore, and I suggest to the other affiliates who were maybe approach by AffiliateClub, not to promote their brand for the moment. Maybe my opinion on them can change in the future, all depends on their efficiencies to pay my commissions.

    I hope that this post will make them react and I will not miss to inform you on that forums when I'll get paid, or not...

    Best regards,

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    We can form a support group.

    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/casino-ro...ey-203779.html

    I'll email him this thread as well to make sure he knows people are watching and waiting...

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    Thx for your support, I can't access to your thread unfurtunatly, cause I'm recently registered, I'm apparently awaiting activation. I won't miss to join you as soon as I have admin answer.

    Just for Info, Dan told me this morning that I would get paid on Friday, another promise he won't maintain? Or would it be the truth? Wait and see... More details at the next episode.

    What kind of problem have you got with him?

    Cheers.

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    They owe me something north of $10k...same bullshit runaround for the last little while. At least he's starting responding to me lately, once I started posting about it. I'll use this thread for updates now. Here's from the other thread:

    So, I received a reply from Dan Varley, pretty much immediately after I emailed him the link to this thread. Unfortunately, I've heard nothing since then. Apparently Royal Club Affiliates lost a processor...I guess one of Rival's? Anyways, figured I'd keep people updated, in case you're interested. We'll see how they do at actually making payments...(I added the x's for some reason...)
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    Dan Varley
    29 Feb (6 days ago)




    to Tim

    Hi Tim,

    I would like to inform you that 1 of our major processor has been holding our funds since 1 months and now they are not answering the mails or phone calls. We suspect that they have closed down and we will not be able to receive our funds from them. However we have found the alternative processing and have started with them.


    We would like to offer a settlement to the money due to you as following:

    Monthly installments of the following amounts :

    $x,000

    $x,000

    $x,000



    I apologies you for late payment and appreciate your patience and co-operation in this regard. I am in follow up with our processors. Hope all will be sorted soon.

    Dan

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    Keeping this thread updated appears to help me get replies. Not necessarily directly answering my question, but at least a response...
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    08:42 (23 hours ago)




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    Hi Dan,

    When will the first payment be made?


    Dan Varley
    02:04 (5 hours ago)




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    Hi Tim,

    We will pay you in installment. In first installment, we will clear first installment of 4k.

    Tim
    07:50 (4 minutes ago)




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    Thanks Dan. When will the first installment be paid?

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    Ok great, it seems that Casinoroyalclub is not so "royal" ....

    When did you start to post your complain? Is it on the 29th of feb 2012 if i'm not mistaken? This is the only date I can see on your copy past.
    Do you know the name of the payment processor which is supposdly holding the mone by any chance?

    Thx!

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    No idea regarding the processor. I've been emailing Dan for a while, but the first time he got back to me was when I started that thread, which was on the 28th actually. There was 1 post that I didn't copy because there were too many images...here it is:

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    Casino Royal Club - Royal Club Affiliates - Dan Varley

    Okay, I know I'm the biggest ***** out there and it takes A LOT for me to remove a program from my site, but it's finally happened. I can't get a hold of Dan Varley or Royal Club Affiliates to save my life. If anyone knows how to get a hold of him, do share. I even harass his facebook page - https://www.facebook.com/danvarley.affiliate - hehe. Hope he's okay, but I'm beginning to think there's no real Dan Varley and I got scammed. Anyways, if there's anyone else promoting them successful with a point of contact, please let me know.

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    Alright thx!

    Well, I have been posting the same thread on 5 other casino forums, we will see if he moves his arss or not. He is supposed to pay me tomorrow ... As usual, I don't really belive it. I own a casino, poker affiliate database of about 20k mixte with different countries, if nothing comes tomorrow, I start an emailing operation.

    By the way, don't you have any higher contacts in the company?
    I have some contacts in other casinos in Cyprus, I'll check with them if they can give me higher contacts at royalclubaffiliate.

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    http://www.bonus-casino-en-ligne.inf...no-Royal-Club/

    Just had a look on that french affiliate site. And all comments are saying the same :

    -Me, I have been charged 100 euro, when my card was refused, there is nobody who knows where my money is gone!
    -Casino discouraged, incompetent staff, I never got money in this casino
    -Royal club casino is a ghost and total incompetence, don't play there because they do not pay!!
    Etc ...

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    No, just Dan. Yeah, anything else you can find out, please pass it along.

    - Tim

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    Ok, I have contacted a friend of mine, working in a casino in Cyprus, he will try to get some contacts and information. He told me royalclub is a small affiliate program, the name of Dan Varley is not known at all in the industry and in Cyprus. It is for sure a fake name as we were expecting.

    I'll let you know when I have more infos.

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    Dan Varley
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    Hi Tim,

    We will send you first installment up to next week.
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    Sounds promising...we'll see...

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    Interesting, I spoke to him today, cause he was supposed to send me the money today.

    Here is his mail :

    Hi,

    As per promise, We have been paying you amount of $2500 through wire transfer today and the rest of amount approx. $868 will be sent out next week.

    If you have any query, feel free to contact me.

    Dan



    First of all, I never asked to be paid by bank wire, but through MB. But he had my bank details, so apparetly he made it through it, anyway..... I guess it is another way to gain some time, cause if I receive something, it will be in few days, and not instantly. It will also be a good argument if I tell him that I did not receive the money, he can play with the fact that : "I really did the payment, but maybe it did not go through, let me check again, and again, and again". Anyway, I have asked for a proof of the payment through Skype:

    Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: If you need, i will send you swift copy by monday
    [11:24:21] sadon: because you can't send it today ...
    [11:24:36] sadon:
    [11:25:03] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: i will try to send you swift copy today
    [11:25:13] sadon: please

    He did not send it to me today, obviously.

    I spoke to him about you guys, he told me :

    [11:26:56] sadon: what about Tim? That affiliate you owe about 10k?
    [11:27:20] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: Ys it is true
    [11:27:36] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: RIVAL are not allowing us to accept U.S players
    [11:27:52] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: that's why it's payment got late
    [11:28:18] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: We will pay him full amount
    [11:28:31] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: but in installment
    [11:29:04] Dan Varley / RoyalClubAffiliates: We will pay him as such 4k, 3k,3k

    Anyway, once again, I really guess this casino is a scam

    Have a nice weekend guys!

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    Dan spoke with us 1 month ago and I told him we will not work with them if they cant pay to affiliates.

    Skype: Royalclubaffiliates

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    Any news ?

    Me too he told me I will be paid the payment has been sent, many time ect... and nothing !

    This affiliate program should be in rogue list as payment time and method of payment is not respected or even not paid at all. and the casino as a very bad reputation to stole winnings ect...

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    Nothing here. Still waiting...I'll reach out again today I suppose...

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    Our company also have a payment problem with CasinoRoyalClub.
    The outstanding balance is $3,324.00 since november 2011.
    We highly recommand not to promote this Casino.
    We will keep you posted if the situation changes

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    So I probably did well not to remove that thread apparently, the still owe me money, so we'll see how long it will take. these guys are really not serious.

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    Yeah, I haven't got anything either. I'm too busy trying to make money to go chasing money...irritating...

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    Hello everyone, I wonder if Royal Club affiliates is still functioning? and if it is how to get paid. Should he go home to have contact because no one answers and not even the casino.
    If someone is in the same situation we could regroup as it becomes unprofessional.
    Thank you for your reply.

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    lol, im late to the party but they owe me a large sum as well, never tracked that they have not been paying! Is this a lost cause at this point?
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