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    Hello,

    please stop editing my posts behind my back without notice or without public reason or without any editing notice in the post, so it looks like i have posted nonsense, like this case: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/incredibl...tml#post725781

    Thank You!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony
    The OP issue was resolved. There is no need to instigate and go after each other. This thread is closed.
    Source: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/incredibl...tml#post725816

    Very professional and at the proper time. A logic and equitable decision.

    Leopold

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    Whats happen in this forum, deleting and zensur in most real problems post, work this persons in charge in front of the casino mistakes only?

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    Hello marvel,

    i will give you an example:

    You are writing "a dangerous present"
    A smilie can take the place for the sense instead of the word "dangerous".

    Now the word dangerous will be edited.

    Version A

    A dangerous present

    will changed to

    A present

    You see the important difference?

    A much better way is if you edit

    Version B

    A dangerous present

    will changed to

    A xxx present

    Because again there is a very important difference between

    A present
    A xxx present

    The reader knows, there is a xxx and this can stand for good or bad things.
    Without xxx and only deleting one word the original sense is deleted.

    But the worst thing is, that this happened behind my back again yesterday or last night.
    Again, again and again.
    It makes me so tired.

    The member, who have written the missing word 1st, was informed at least via PM, because he edited three posts himself.

    My postings behind my back...........

    I quoted it with a sense.

    It was edited (Version A) without any notice. I have seen it only because of my experience of the past.

    The edited word was written before the word "attetude"

    Look at my post, and you will see the result of Version A.

    The "speaking" smilie now is speaking nonsense.

    Today my repeated quote was edited again but this time after my complaint with a public notice in the posting footer.

    If a moderation is using Version A, then you can better sometimes delete the complete post. It makes no difference.

    To stand up for somebody is a very ungrateful business. I know that. Independence and loyality are the magic words. For many people foreign words.

    The fact is that the truth is not only occasions of peace, joy and happinessis.

    This forum is making money only because members are writing. For an empty forum no Affiliate program will pay one cent.

    If anybody only wants 5 words postings with "Hello", "Great" and "Good Job" to save peace, joy and happinessis or come on the list, then this is o.k,, but i must really say, that i set higher standards to myself.

    Leopold

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    Hello,

    it's Puzzle time, and more and more pieces come together.

    One question:

    Look at this post (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/warnung-v...tml#post723635) and scroll down...

    Last edited by Paolino; 23 June 2013 at 10:54 am. Reason: removed a surname for privacy
    1st of all, Paolino edited not behind my back. This is the right way, but...

    This surname was edited in my post:

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    I have one question:

    Why a surname for "privacy" will be edited if exact this surname (I quoted from official GPWA membership details content) is visible for everybody on the OFFICIAL SITE of GPWA?

    MEMBER DETAILS

    Idan
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    Native Language: English
    Other Language: Hebrew
    Birthday: 01 Jul
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    OFFICIAL SOURCE: https://www.gpwa.org/member/idan = GPWA

    A surname was edited in a thread, exactly a thread that later will be hide from Google because of changing the robots.txt.

    Why this surname will not be edited in the official site of GPWA (https://www.gpwa.org/member/idan) too, because privacy is privacy, or isn't it?

    Or was the "single" privacy requested?

    A simple question.

    Leopold

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    OK,

    First of all, removing a surname by a mod is just something that was done to protect privacy, and my guess is he didn't realize it was in the members profile, and trying to make a big thing about this is just plain silly. (then bringing up the robots thing has NOTHING to do with what the mod did)

    And....if someone had posted YOUR surname, or any other private information, and the mods see it, we would do the same thing for YOU, having absolutlely NOTHING to do with the robots since that is a totally seperate issue and discussion.

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    if someone had posted YOUR surname
    My surname is no secret. Anybody can read him on my page. I undersign every blog article with my full name. I CAN STAND WITH MY NAME FOR WHAT I AM WRITING AND DOING!

    And...

    i don't know why you are so exited. I have only asked a simple question. This is not a case of somebody privacy data. I only quoted an official name, visible for everybody at the official members website and this quote from your own official website was edited.

    It is not allowed to ask why?

    No questions anymore?
    Only hurraaaa and super, writing and filling up this forum that GPWA is earning money?

    An empty forum...
    Nobody would pay one cent for GPWA.

    WE, the normal members are making the money for this forum!

    A forum should don't take intelligent members for an idiot.

    Have you forgotten?

    WE, the normal members are making the money for this forum!

    "Never bite the hand that feeds you."

    I fear, the German area will be very lonely for the future, because a German webmaster was cheated, and the cheater will protected.

    Protected?
    Yes!

    Because...

    Hiding the truth from Google is a well known censorship practise and nothing else, because Google is the biggest information source of the world. There are no excuses.

    [END OF FILE]

    Leopold

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    My surname is no secret
    Not everyone else's is, and as moderators we have to act in such a way to protect privacy of everyone.

    And once again you try to make this about being German or not.....it's NOT about that, it was NEVER about that.

    Rick
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    I do respect Rick and his hard work in this forum but if last names are an issue, then it would only be fair to delete the one in MartYn's post where he name drops and shares private communications from lots0.

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    This constant BS of you sitting back accusing people of censoring when all we do is Moderate and try and protect member's privacy is getting very old Leopold.

    Whether YOU care if YOUR last name is posted or not is not the issue when it concerns a moderator possibly protecting someone else's privacy.

    I would rather remove a last name and protect someone, and later have them tell me it would have been ok to allow it to stand then to allow the post to sit there and have someone later say they wanted their anonymity.

    To put this in perspective, why would anyone use domain privacy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Whether YOU care if YOUR last name is posted or not is not the issue when it concerns a moderator possibly protecting someone else's privacy.
    Is here standing his full name, yes or no? https://www.gpwa.org/member/idan

    I only copied official content from GPWA from the link and this copied content was edited.

    This i call very curious. A last name in another thread, a real privacy issue, made public by a Gold Sponsor, was removed only after -shay- asked for it. The same Gold sponsor is making content of private messages public, but this kind of breaking privacy, because private messages are privacy too, will be applauded with silence.

    And the censorship of Ibexnetwork have nothing to do with this name editing. It's only a funny side-note, that a quoted content will be edited because of "privacy", but the full name is still standing in the original source i copied only, made public by GPWA.



    Proof: https://www.gpwa.org/member/idan

    To put this in perspective, why would anyone use domain privacy?
    To not receive adhortatory letters.

    Leopold
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    I do respect Rick and his hard work in this forum but if last names are an issue, then it would only be fair to delete the one in MartYn's post where he name drops and shares private communications from lots0.
    Thank you for pointing this out, I removed the surname.
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    Again Leo, YOU were the one mixing issues.

    The name thing has been explained, and as moderators we stand behind removing a last name as was done. Acting in a manner to PROTECT a member's privacy (such as was done in the last name case) is better to be done immediately than to let it go.

    You had a valid point, and pointed out that this was made public in the members' profile, and I will apologize once again (and take personal responsibility) that the last name was removed when it did not need to be, BUT I stand on the fact that it was removed, since it can always be replaced, or republished in some situations, or like you stated was in the member's profile.

    A moderator (who is human by the way....ok except in my case) has to make a judgement call on something like a privacy issue. And they can apologize after the fact for removing something (like I have numerous times over this name thing), but if they do NOT make the moderation and it turns out later that they should have, the information that SHOULD have been protected was not, and that would be something that a simple apology could not necessarily take back. I understand this is not perfect.

    I agree that the name thing does NOT have anything to do with the Ibex issue, but you seem to be want to bring up the Ibex issue in almost every thread you post in, and I was responding to someone that had mentioned the name thing in this thread. (which was you on 1 August 2013)

    To not receive adhortatory letters.
    Yes Leopold, that is one of the reasons to use domain privacy, and that is the EXACT same reason that at times we remove (or obfuscate) full email addresses from email headers of spam reports when it has not been determined whether the header contained the actual senders email or that of possibly an innocent recipient's email.

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    You get to be right, and I get to have peace and quiet.

    And please, my Name is still Leopold and not Leo.
    Anthony's 1st name is Anthony and not Ant.

    And a last thing: "This constant BS of you"

    You should know that it's not possible to hurt me with words like "constant BS". Insults and vulgar tongue are not my cup of tea. I know, that it is difficult to keep one's composure in case of differences of opinion, but i can not remember, that i ever wrote, you or any other person is writing "constant BS". If i am wrong, then please quote me.

    Writing is the quintessence of every forum, and every writing person deserve respect.

    There are other solutions, e.g. irony or a hard discussion, but insults or vulgar tonque are for me as a German disrespectful.
    But maby i am wrong, and in your country "BS" is a part of a normal conversation. Then i have learned a new fact and all is in order.

    Leopold

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    Anthony's 1st name is Anthony and not Ant.
    Funny I call him ant all the time.

    Leopold, I meant no disrespect by calling you that and I apologize and I will be happy to edit the post.

    I have not now or ever tried to insult you or use a vulgar tone, as I would never do that.

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    Can this thread be closed please everytime I look more BS is added.

    thnx.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCG View Post
    Can this thread be closed please everytime I look more BS is added.

    thnx.
    This thread has some good discussions going on / that went on. Personally, I don't think it should be locked.

    As a separate question, is it possible to have "in text indications" of where posts are edited/moderated? I'm not sure if it is possible or if its something that Michael would be interested in doing - but in rereading the thread in its entirety, that doesn't seem like a half bad idea. That way, visitors and participants can see whether they're responding to full context, partial context, or edited context (i.e. - "The *xxxxxxx* example for moderated posts or something to that extent would use x's to indicate a word was removed or maybe *moderated* would be put in place of anything posted that perhaps should not be.").

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    Shay you have convinced me

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    The think tank is back.

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    I whish you a pleasant stay.

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