TheOriginalMary's personal vendetta moves to a new level

[VPJunkie]

Some people will stop at nothing to try to destroy what they're jealous of.

TheOriginalMary has had a bug up her butt about me for nearly 2 years now, often showing herself at WOL, even tho she thinks no one sees it.

What most of you don't know is that she's also engaged in quite a few "behind the scenes" little games during that time in her attempts to sabotage me and/or GPWA.

Keep in mind that Mary and I have had no communication whatsoever between us since our last "outing" at WOL a couple of weeks ago.....

This morning I got a phone call from GPWA's host telling me they received an "Abuse Complaint" from her, then they sent me the letter. (Yes, Mary, I have your letter) She told my host that GPWA is an organization of affiliates advertising gambling against the law. GPWA's host is well aware of the laws, as I am (and as I'm sure you are), and of the personal vendettas of a few people - you being one of them. They don't care about your complaint.

A few minutes ago I got a Termination Notice from another host for Video Poker Junkie because of "information they received that I was advertising online casinos illegally". I was planning to move VPJ anyway, so that's ok, but I responded. I set him straight on the laws and the personal vendetta of this person, and requested a copy of the letter he received.

If you're consistent, you'll also have sent a letter to my other host, who happens to be a friend and a GPWA member. I hope you know I'll get a copy of that one, too. Can you say "harassment", Mary?

YOU have a serious freaking problem. How small minded will you prove yourself to be? You've been jealous of my success with GPWA for a very long time now, while your precious OPA failed - TWICE - because you were too stupid to see there were always ethics problems with it. Or perhaps it's because you have no ethics yourself, as you're proving with all this vindictive behavoir.

You're not in this business in any way, shape, or manner, yet you run your mouth everywhere like you are the omnipotent source of knowledge regarding all things (along with Jetset). Hate to tell you this, babe, but you're nothing but a blow horn.

You claim to be a "players' advocate", then you're going to run around and try to get portals shut down, claiming they're advertising illegally - when you know that's not true?? Are you doing this to everyone, or am I the only "special" person you're after?

You are nothing but white trash, Mary; desperately jealous of me because I've succeeded at two things you don't even have the balls to try to do. I hate to sound pompous, but you will never be what I am, because you're so caught up in your envy and jealousy.

The letter sent to Affinity, VideoPokerJunkie's host, was from

From:
martyflapdoodle@yahoo.com

Date:
Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:22 PM

To:
taffsupport@affinity.net (taffsupport@affinity.net)

Subject:
Fraud

Sent just a few minutes after the one sent to GPWA's host -

From: MKSnyder@aol.com [mailto:MKSnyder@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:14 PM
To: abuse@prohosters.com
Subject: Site promoting online gambling and marketing of online gambling

[Spearmaster]

Can you produce the full headers? It's easy enough to spoof the sender... but there ought to be other identifying material in the header which will be traceable.

[VPJunkie]

Fair question, Spear, and I've requested them from my host. But, if someone spoofed her addy, they'd have to know a hell of a lot about her, since even the capitalization of her name in the email addy matches hers. I've kept her addy in my address book since she emailed me once a couple of years ago.

[VPJunkie]

I have a VERY good host!! www.ProHosters.com

----- Original Message -----
From: ProHosters Abuse Department
To: manager@gpwa.org
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 2:33 PM
Subject: FW: Site promoting online gambling and marketing of online gambling







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From: MKSnyder@aol.com [mailto:MKSnyder@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 10:14 PM
To: abuse@prohosters.com
Subject: Site promoting online gambling and marketing of online gambling



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From: MKSnyder@aol.com
Message-ID: 186.2447ff97.2d3f4861@aol.com
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 22:13:37 EST
Subject: Site promoting online gambling and marketing of online gambling
To: abuse@prohosters.com
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Hosted on your service. Notice the incomplete registration information. This is an organization of "affiliate" marketers, hence, they receive a percentage of gamblers' losses. Unlike selling advertising space, because their revenues depend on gambling outcomes they violate the Federal Wire Act. Check with your legal department.

Registrant:
GPWA
6
E, US 10009
US

Domain name: GPWA.ORG

Administrative Contact:
Carley, C slycin56@videopokerjunkie.com
6
E, US 10009
US
8005551212
Technical Contact:
Carley, C slycin56@videopokerjunkie.com
6
E, US 10009
US
8005551212


Registration Service Provider:
Host Europe PLC, helpdesk@hosteurope.com
+44 115 917 0000
http://www.hosteurope.com/
This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords,
DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions.


Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC.
Record last updated on 06-Jan-2004.
Record expires on 15-Jun-2004.
Record Created on 15-Jun-2001.

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.4PH.COM 66.197.0.2
NS2.4PH.COM 66.197.0.3

[Spearmaster]

Don't know if it's AOL stripping the header info or not but it's impossible to tell exactly where the mail came from - unless possibly you ask AOL to decode their information.

The bit about "knowing a lot about her" - actually, anyone who has ever received an email from her would know that this was the way her "Reply To:" address was formatted, so I would kind of discount that as being much of anything.

I hope she didn't do this, but I'm not saying she didn't either - I would really like to know who it is and if it's her, bad news... and if it's not her, then she also deserves the right to know what the heck is going on.

[VPJunkie]

It says right there it's coming from AOL. With all the vindictive things she's done to me, why would anyone even doubt it?

[Spearmaster]

I know it says its coming from AOL LOL.

The problem with that is there are millions of email addresses that all go through that crap known as AOL.

If I had wanted to do some damage, that would be the best way to do it - spoof it and send it through the AOL mailservers.

I gotta admit it doesn't look all that good but this is not a question of "doubt" - it is a question of finding the culprit and dealing with it.

[VPJunkie]

So maybe I should send it to AOL and file a complaint?

[Spearmaster]

I don't know what kind of luck you will have getting an answer from AOL, but if you can this is the way to do it:

Ask them to provide the relevant information related to:

Message-ID: 186.2447ff97.2d3f4861@aol.com

because you are the intended recipient of the email and have some right to determine its origin. That message ID will be unique - it can only have come from one possible source and AOL will know who that source is.

[VPJunkie]

Cool - thanks!

[Spearmaster]

BTW, Affinity should also be required to provide you the email and the headers of the email they received.

[VPJunkie]

I'm writing the TOS department at AOL, but I have a better idea...

If this is someone else that spoofed her email addy, then it would stand to reason that she'd be very motivated to clear her name, to avoid the repercussions of this act.

Mary can get the information from AOL easier than I can - let her go to AOL to get the message ID. She can authorize them to send it directly to me at Manager@gpwa.org .

[Spearmaster]

She won't be able to do as much as you - because if she wasn't the sender or the recipient, AOL will likely not act even if it is supposedly spoofing her email identity.

[VPJunkie]

No, I don't think so. I was on the phone with several departments today who all told me I'd have to write because I wasn't a member.

Not to mention, if someone is fraudulently using her email addy to make fraudulent complaints against me to do damage to my businesses, you better believe AOL will have something to say about that - just like they will if they determine she was the sender.

I really believe if Mary's innocent, Spear, she should be speaking for herself - don't you?

[Spearmaster]

She only now is aware of this post. So if she wants to defend herself I'm sure she will.

However, if she is technically not an injured party, there is little she can do - the fact that you are not an AOL subscriber should have zero bearing on the issue.

You might have to write, yes. Do it by email, that ought to be plenty acceptable.

Nevertheless, assuming she is innocent, I am quite certain she will do her own investigation as well.

[Amateur]

Spear,

If someone is cloning her email address, SHE IS ABSOLUTELY AN INJURED PARTY!!. Fraud is an injury in every legal sense of the word.

Only so many excuses you can make, and right about now, they are all sounding very weak and very thin. Mary has known about this post for a while now, and the only response I've seen from her has been some drivel about her not "liking the affiliate model of advertising". Sounds like an excuse to me. Who cares what Mary likes or doesn't like.

Mary doesn't run the internet. Has she also taken on the job of Internet Police now? No one needs her permission to do anything.

Tell her, since she can't seem to make her way about the internet to see this post, that if she wants to set about cleaning up the internet, GO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE PORN!! That will keep her busy for a nice, long time.

(Note: Sarcasm is intentional.)

[Mary77]

Spear suggested I address this here.

I did not email Cindy's ISP's.

I do think that Cindy is being set up. Faking email headers is not difficult, especially from AOL. AOL and spammers have been fighting each other for a long time.

I think it was set up so that Cindy would post what happened, and then I'd post where she couldn't about how she made it all up, and we'd both be discredited.

The people with the most skill and motivation to do this are spammers and scumware advertisers. This is what they do every day. You probably know better than I do how the scumware advertisers are starting to make less money than they used to. Cindy must have cost them money. I hope a lot!

I don't want to give them the satisfaction of having this work, because then they will do it again. AOL is especially vulnerable to this, ironically I keep using it because it has good spam-sorting for when I read my email. They can make email look like it came from anywhere, not just AOL.

[VPJunkie]

I'm being set up? No, I think IF someone else did it, they were setting you up. I'm not the one open to a lawsuit, having police charges filed against me, or losing my internet service - you are.

I intend to fully pursue this. I gave you the weekend to respond to this, and you didn't even tho you were aware of this all weekend, so I started the processes this morning.

I really don't expect you to publicly admit to a legally punishable offense, so if you want to maintain your innocence, I would suggest you get working on it.