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    Default Trafficboyz/Thepokerboyz Spam

    I recieved this today:

    Hello

    I d like to invite You to join trafficboyz affiliate network. They are working with CPA and rev-share deals with many casinos, bingo rooms and poker room.
    As a new affiliate You will get 150$ free just for joining them added to Your first comission.

    I d like to ask You to use my referral link, because then I will get $25 and 5% extra.

    Im also looking for a link exchange for my site: xxx.thepokerboyz.com

    If You are interested or have any questions feel free to contact me.

    Cheers
    Bartosz


    my aff link:

    hxxps://www.trafficboyz.com/affiliate/affiliates/signup.php?a_aid=xcamelx
    Is this a normal Trafficboyz way to recruit new members?
    Sending affiliates to spam webmasters of other sites?
    The link exchange sentence is more of a "I'm not a spammer I want links" way to seem legit.

    In my eyes it's spam.

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    Got the same twice in one hour, looks like he set up a tracker just to monitor spam conversion or advertise the affiliate program (25 and 5% guessing).
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    I received the same e-mail.
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    Hello

    Im really sorry that you consider my person as a spammer.

    The thing is that since trafficboyz started 5% + $25 for refferals Im converting very good, so I decided to contact GPWA members portals which can be find here:
    gpwa(dot)org/portal_sites


    I am sorry for this but all i did was to try and earn on sub-affiliate commission by going to 1000's of sites and contacting you via your site or email on your site.


    Thanks
    Bartosz
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    I think the issue is more or less that you guys have been known to send out tons of emails to webmasters all the time repeatedly. I did not get this one yet. But i do get Trafficboyz ones many times.

    I assume this is Jason right? From Marsh Media? I only ask cause you have another account here as Traffic Boyz. And this account new.

    Both websites are owned by Marsh Media. So in essence what your doing may be considered conflict of interest possibly. Not saying it is!!

    You own or work for Traffic Boyz as a non sponsored affiliate program under the name Traffic Boyz here. And you now also have a site as a webmaster promoting your own brand.

    You are seeking link exchanges from the webmasters you are competing with and its not shown out in public in a transparent way.

    Webmasters will not know you work or own Traffic Boyz and will give you link exchanges and sub affiliate under you.

    You are the one who is WIN WIN!! here you increase your serps in google and postions and make money from the affiliates - whil you also have them work for your network as affiliates..

    So its not the best way to do things! - Better would be to be honest and upfront and tell them you work or own traffic boys. Not sharing this information may lead to issues for you guys - which from past history i don't think you need.

    Just my opinion


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    Hi there,

    To all who are participating in this conversation we want to inform you that we had no input in this or had any idea that this mail had gone out.

    I have just spoken to our IT to close this affiliates account with us, as we dont appreciate this kind of mailers going out.

    Please accept my word that i will do all in my power to remedy this situation.

    Jason Marsh
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    Thanks Jason,

    Who is this?

    Bartosz - is he your employee?

    He sends emails both from The Poker BOyz and Traffic BOyz.

    Both sites are owned by Marsh Media? Which is you correct? This would mean you own the site right?

    regards

    Edit: I got this from him NOV 11th!!

    Hello
    My name is Bartosz and I work for www.trafficboyz.com
    We are an affiliate network working with many webmasters, gambling
    portals and operators. I would like to invite You to join us and start
    earning with our campaigns.
    Let me quickly show You our deals:


    Poker
    -Poker Share 100$ CPA
    -888 Poker 125$ CPA
    -Crazy Poker 90$ CPA
    -Aspinalls Poker 90$ CPA
    -Smart Live Poker 30% rev share
    -Guru Play 30% rev share
    -Star Games $80 CPA
    -Euro Poker 40% Rev Share


    Casinos
    -1Live Casino 30% rev share
    -Slots Oasis 30% rev share
    -Cherry Red 30% rev share
    -Rushmore 30% rev share
    - Grand Mondial $150 CPA
    - Quatro Casino $150 CPA
    - Casino Share $150 CPA
    - Colosseum Casino 15% rev +50CPA
    - Grand Hotel Casino 15% rev +50CPA
    - BWIN Casino $150 CPA
    - 888 Casino $150 CPA
    - Swiss Casino 125$ CPA
    - Party Casino 125$ CPA
    - Casino Las Vegas 125$ CPA
    - Smart Live Casino 30% Rev share
    - Casino Room 40% Rev share
    - Jackpot City Casino 125$ CPA


    Other
    -UK Lottery and Euromillions 8$CPA
    -eToro 100$ CPA
    -Blackmoon Poker ( Poker school) - 20$ CPA




    You will also get 5% sub-affiliate comission and 25$ free just for joining.

    What do you think about this?
    I expect an answer anytime soon. Don?t hesitate to contact me,
    Kind Regards Bartosz
    www.trafficboyz.com



    Quote Originally Posted by TrafficBoyz View Post
    Hi there,

    To all who are participating in this conversation we want to inform you that we had no input in this or had any idea that this mail had gone out.

    I have just spoken to our IT to close this affiliates account with us, as we dont appreciate this kind of mailers going out.

    Please accept my word that i will do all in my power to remedy this situation.

    Jason Marsh
    Trafficboyz


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    Thank you GPFC

    I thank you for pointing all this out - Bartosz was a freelance affiliate manager of us and thus you would have received these mailers. But the last mailer we had no notification of.

    The decision is yours to label us as whatever you would like to - but as i said earlier the steps we have endeavoured to take to remedy this and this will be our last response until it has been sorted.

    Thank you

    Jason

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    I am not labelling anything. I am simply stating facts mate. I have nothing against you - but I ask cause the sites are both owned by MARSH MEDIA.

    That i assume is your company right? Well if that is the case it can be perceived as conflict of interest.. by people.

    If he works for you that's not a problem - but the site pokerboyz.com is listed under your company.

    So he is emailing from both accounts..

    If you want affiliates to work with you and link exchange for you you have to at least give them the facts.



    Quote Originally Posted by TrafficBoyz View Post
    Thank you GPFC

    I thank you for pointing all this out - Bartosz was a freelance affiliate manager of us and thus you would have received these mailers. But the last mailer we had no notification of.

    The decision is yours to label us as whatever you would like to - but as i said earlier the steps we have endeavoured to take to remedy this and this will be our last response until it has been sorted.

    Thank you

    Jason


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    I'm a little confused here myself and would love to hear a more detailed explanation. It does appear that Trafficboyz and Pokerboyz are owned by the same company which definitely points toward a conflict of interest.
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    Whoha! I stepped away for a sec and GFPC took command!

    I knew that I have recieved several spam mail from this Bartosz so I searched my inbox and here is what I found:

    edit: sent to me 2010-06-09


    The following message have been forwarded from www.igamingcatalog.com.
    To read and manage your messages, please go to http://www.igamingcatalog.com/message.


    From: Bartosz
    Subject: partnership

    Hello
    My name is Bartosz and I work for trafficboyz.com I would like to invite You to join our affiliate program.

    We currently promote lottery sites, casino, poker and sportsbook sites. We work under wide range of CPA and rev share deals:

    Lottery sites:
    UKLottery247 & EuroMillions247 - Trafficboyz.com offers you the opportunity to earn $8 CPA on these 2 campaigns ON PLAYERS FIRST DEPOSIT.

    Casino sites: Tropez, Del Rio, TitanCaisno - up to 120$ CPA
    Winner.com: $50 CPA ON A MINIMUM PLAYER DEPOSIT of 20$.
    Cherry Red Casino, Slots Oasis, 1Live Casino and Rusmore Casino on 30% Rev Share

    Poker sites: Titan Poker - up to $90 CPA ON A MINIMUM PLAYER DEPOSIT OF $20.
    Winner.com poker - 100$ CPA on a minimum player deposit of 25$!

    Sportsbook sites: Titan Bet $45 CPA ON A MINIMUM PLAYER DEPOSIT OF $10

    In the near future we are going to add many new brands, so dont wait and register to earn money!
    Whats more - if You join today we will add 25$ totally free to Your comission.
    Also remember that you get 8% sub-affiliate commission.

    Best Regards
    Bartosz
    xxx.trafficboyz.com

    Brands we work with:
    hxxp://xxx.trafficboyz.com/promotions.php
    Not only scanning GPWA listed sites..

    Bartosz or thepokerboyz, stop this spamming and build your links the real way.
    Someday you will spam someone who will send a small email to google and you don't want that do you?

    /Hakan
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    Yes you are right they are both registered to the same company - pokerboyz was registered with the pure purpose of link building - i was not aware that this was happening - as this is not part of my responsibility - i have now found out when you pointed it out to me and this will receive my full attention and will be sorted out immediately.

    That i can promise you.

    Jason

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    Hey Jason,

    Thanks for sharing by the way. I hope you can appreciate the reasons why it can become an issue because you own both sites. Its your business. So you are using affiliates for dual purposes. Your gaining their links and their affiliate accounts working for you. I get it!! But this must be told to affiliates so they know.. there was a debate about this..

    Let me say that for me (there is a possibility I will work with a new casino operation in the near future) what i would do...

    1. I am an affiliate
    2. I may become part of a affiliate marketing team

    I would immediately revolk my private membership status here. I would be listed as an affilliate manager. Under my current account!

    I would disclose that I now work for the company as an affiliate rep. I also would still be a webmaster and affiliate. Some will argue you should not do both, some will argue you should no problem. Its been debated here many times and its a 50 50 split!

    But one thing for sure that was for sure - NO AM should really affiliate for the site/company he works for. It breeds competitive issues and conflict of interest and can lead to problems...

    So in my case i would tell any new affiliates i worked with my role - that i work as an Affiliate (co -ordinator) but i am also an affiliate but do not promote the site i work for! That I am 100% there to benefit them for that particular site - I would not compete with the affiliates who work with me.

    So his email to affiliates really should not have happened since YOU are the owner of that site and those are you affiliate links on that site. You own both sites and in essense are competing with the affiliates you want to to join your own program.

    Do you see how this is an issue? - plus getting emails from both programs?

    Quote Originally Posted by TrafficBoyz View Post
    Yes you are right they are both registered to the same company - pokerboyz was registered with the pure purpose of link building - i was not aware that this was happening - as this is not part of my responsibility - i have now found out when you pointed it out to me and this will receive my full attention and will be sorted out immediately.

    That i can promise you.

    Jason


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    Yes i completely understand this - i can assure - that what you are saying is truely correct - and let me apologise again - but also make it clear that i dont work as an affiliate - and this will be sorted first thing in the morning when Bartosz logs in - as mentioned this was not part of my responsibility but do not pass the buck - so i will stand and take responsibility and promise to all to sort this out urgently - Believe me i have worked very hard to get the network working correctly - spent lots of money & have lost lots too, and will remedy this situation so as to not discredit me as a person or my network.

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    I got this email from traffic boys.
    They did go to my website and contact me by an email addy there, which is not used here at GPWA.
    But still, this kind of solicitation is not good.
    Nobody likes getting SPAM especially when we did not opt in the receive it.

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    Im reading that and i cant believe that Traffic Boyz still existing?

    That Bartosz and Jason few months ago were sending emails and using chats as owners of one , same company , now they cheating GPWA members using really ridicolous methods.

    They didnt pay to many affiliates , they loosing their deals with casinos due to low quality but ... still making new "deals" as i see.

    Just ignore them and never ever work with them.

    Ps
    Few months ago i received from them mailer where all recipents werent under bcc and it was about 200 affiliates as recipents.

    So all their comments here are bull,,,t

    I found some their emails and pm`s so mr Jason and friends , stop making idiots from normal people
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    Quote Originally Posted by rookieaff View Post
    Im reading that and i cant believe that Traffic Boyz still existing?

    That Bartosz and Jason few months ago were sending emails and using chats as owners of one , same company , now they cheating GPWA members using really ridicolous methods.

    They didnt pay to many affiliates , they loosing their deals with casinos due to low quality but ... still making new "deals" as i see.

    Just ignore them and never ever work with them.

    Ps
    Few months ago i received from them mailer where all recipents werent under bcc and it was about 200 affiliates as recipents.

    So all their comments here are bull,,,t

    I found some their emails and pm`s so mr Jason and friends , stop making idiots from normal people
    It seems that every post you make is about some program not paying you... Trafficboyz, Blackmoon, 365 Bonitas...
    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/search.php?searchid=1502478

    As far as the payment issue you had with Trafficboyz, I'm under the impression that everyone got paid the commissions due.

    While the spam issue is important, as is the pokerboyz connection to Trafficboyz, derailing the thread to complain about not being paid is unnecessary.

    If you still have payment issues with trafficboyz, please start a new thread or post in the one you started here:
    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/cpa-cheat...ed-192480.html
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    Im posting here about their spamming work - do you want "samples" ? just give me an email

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