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    A heartfelt thank you, Leopold, for always being there for me when I've needed you the most. Even in my hardest of times and darkest of hours.

    You always have a true friend in me, sir
    I have to thank you. It was a tremendous challenge but also a great experience, and it was worth the price, any price. Stand tall with the innocent. In my long life, this was always the motto.

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    I totally agree with you on this one. I actually following only one thread I found useful here so far started by TheGooner - https://www.gpwa.org/forum/hold-bitc...sh-240378.html
    So your touch is required on this crypto subject !
    It's obvious, that there are efforts to sabotage this thread, but the content here in this thread will speak for itself like in my lucid diary. It's always a matter a patience and a matter of a long breathe, and I am quite certain, I have also the full support from GPWA for this thread.

    People, who simply want to see something different about Bitcoin or crypto during the visit of the GPWA palace gardens, they will have also here in this thread a small diversion from time to time with reports, that will not seen everywhere and a counterweight to the quasi only positive coverage allowed. There is nothing wrong with it, right?

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    President of Ukraine, "Chocolate King" Petro Poroschenko, and his political vasalls always knew, how to make good money, how to accumulate wealth at the expense of others. Oligarchs always have been, are and will be the rulers in Ukraine.


    21,128 Bitcoin

    In the course of an acquisition of data as a result of the new anticorruption system "Opendatabot" ( https://opendatabot.com/blog/135-bitcoin-rada ), it turned out, 57 politics, government officials and CEO's of companies owns 21,128 Bitcoin. That's a value of more than $200,000,000. Most of the owners are from the notorious Regional Council of Odessa.


    Cybercrime Mafia Capo is top Bitcoin holder

    The top Bitcoin holder is politician Dimitry Golubov, a former Cybercrime Mafia Capo, who was released from prison in Kiev in 2008 after the intervention of two corrupt Ukrainian politicians. Also U.S. authorities are very interested in the former syndicate leader, because he is main suspect in the "CarderPlanet" credit card fraud case. "CarderPlanet" had 6,000+ members and a hierarchical leadership structure like the La Cosa Nostra.

    Dimitry Golubov owns 4,376 Bitcoin. The former Cybercrime Mafia Capo is now member of the "Verkhovna Rada", the unicameral parliament of Ukraine, the only legislative body. This is the same as if John Gotti would have been a member of U.S. Senate.


    Mr. Death (Bonus Track)

    Drug Lord Pablo Escobar was also for some time a politician, member of the Colombian Congress and gained protection from extradition to the USA due to his parliamentary immunity. After he was shown the door and lost his immunity, Escobar striked terror into Columbian's villages and cities with a flood of bomb attacks and with the result of countless victims, also due to assassinations by his army of hit-men.

    The climax of the terror was the day, when Escobar ordered to plant a bomb on "Avianca Flight 203" with the intent to kill the Presidential candidate, who was not on the plane. 107 innocent people were killed.

    He bombed a complete plane only to chase after one guy!

    With that Pablo Escobar made "El Chapo" Guzman and "Mr. Death" Dennis Allen, oldest son of Australian Crime Family matriarch Kath Pettingill, look like altar boys!

    Escobar without any doubts would be a key player in Bitcoin today. It would be interesting, how he would run his own Silk Road.

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    +++ ADDENDUM +++

    Moments ago: Bitcoin crashed under $10,000!



    A psychologically important barrier has fallen.

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    So, what are you waiting for? BUY-THE-DIP!
    It's a rare chance.

    Last time it dipped (because is not the first time since January 1st) I bought a bunch at 9.6K. Sold the day after at 11.520. +20% easy and cashed out.

    What are you waiting for, it's your chance! Don't be so angry! You can!

    LOL

    Edit: hurry up. 10.019,89 and in uptrend on 1hr chart. Hurry up, Korea wants to buy the dip.
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    Bitcoin: A question of emotional instability?

    December 2017 Bitcoin has hit the all-time high of $20,000.
    It was one day before CME futures contract had gone live.

    Now, already last Tuesday evening and yesterday again, Bitcoin crashed under the important barrier of $10,000!

    What happened?

    Bitfinex, one of the biggest exchange trader was already last year target of U.S. authorities. Fact is, regulatory authority Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) has sent on 6. December 2017 subpoenas to Bitfinex and Tether to investigate the question whatever everything is indeed supported by actual bank reserves or not.


    Emotional instability and addicted speculators

    Bloomberg by accident reported this with a false date, that this happened not last year but now and corrected it later. Too late obviously, because parts of the Bitcoin community believe, this is a coordinated black helicopter conspiracy to harm Bitcoin.

    Others within the blink of an eye are in full panic mode, and you see, what happens in those situiations: The price crashed. One more evidence, that the Bitcoin price depends not only on probably illegal arrangements of the whales who owns 97% of all Bitcoins. The price also depends on the emotional instability of their owners, and the fate of some nice owners also depends on the actions of partly crazy and addicted speculators.


    A Ponzi scheme?

    Or to say it with the words of Dirk Mueller, known as "Mister DAX", Germany's most famous pugnacious finance expert and investigative journalist: "The Bitcoin bubble will burst, when the pool of those, who are ready to pay more for something intrinsically completely worthless than the last guy before them, is exhausted. A deflationary currency is completely unsuitable as a medium of exchange and can only be used as a speculative object. Here, however, quite explosive, as we see."

    I know, this reminds one of something, which is also the opinion of David Gledhill, the Group CIO of DBS, Asia's market leader, namely when he says that Bitcoin is "a Ponzi scheme".


    The only reason why Facebook pulls the emergency brake

    The reason, why Facebook now banned all crypto ads, malicious scammer hordes try to defraud people on Facebook since some time, and this does really not improve Bitcoin's overall picture. This step of Facebook was long overdue. The crime with Bitcoin on Facebook and other social media is so intense, that some companies had to release warnings. Here is one example with Bitmain:

    ===> https://blog.bitmain.com/en/fraudule...%20and%20scams


    A Job half done

    But this is a job half done. The Facebook [promotion] pages of Bitcoin scammers are still online and with that thy will still catch a lot of victims. Promotions of Bitcoin frauds and scammers, who e.g. offers magic software to make thousands of Dollars profit within hours, such Facebook pages must also be terminated.

    Bitcoin on social media does more harm than good. In the meantime it's a tremendous opportunity even for pubescent scam artists to improve their pocket money. Not with Bitcoins but with Bitcoin fraud.

    Leopold

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    Dirk Muller? Mister Dax? That one?
    The one who stated:

    "Anyone who still believes today that some anonymous Asian guy in the back room has put together a currency that's upset the world, does not have all the slats on the fence."

    https://steemit.com/bitcoin/@felix.h...d-abzuschaffen

    Satoshi Nakatomo (pseudonym), so, is an asian guy? He really things that Nakatomo is the real creator of Bitcoin? STRA-LOL!

    He has no clue on what he is talking about. I only see that he is extremely scared by Bitcoin... he is going to lose tons of money, flowing away from "their" real ponzi schemes... exchanges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiocch View Post

    "does not have all the slats on the fence."
    This is not the yellow from the egg...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiocch View Post
    Dirk Muller? Mister Dax? That one? He has no clue on what he is talking about. I only see that he is extremely scared by Bitcoin... he is going to lose tons of money, flowing away from "their" real ponzi schemes... exchanges.
    Typical guy who everyone in Germany trust. Journalist, some minutes a week in a couple of TV shows, 2 or 3 books (I read the first one without learning something new). But this is impressing and if you have no clue by yourself, this the typical guy the Germans trust on. A Journalist and TV guy.

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    "Dirk Muller? Mister Dax? That one? The one who stated: "Anyone who still believes today that some anonymous Asian guy in the back room has put together a currency that's upset the world, does not have all the slats on the fence.""

    Exactly!
    And what's wrong with this quote?

    Dirk Mueller is not perfect, no wizard, but his pugnacious and straight way to transport important messages is really great, and his investigative qualities are undisputed. He disclosed e.g. the real truth about the Greece crisis and he reveals on a regular base traps in new laws by our government to harm the people. He is a known counterweight to the mainstream media and no puppet of them. More intelligent than most people here. But of course, the Bitcoin guys, they hate him.

    The interesting thing is, you forgot to mention something important after you referred to an author, who tries to discredit Mueller with that Article.

    The same author in the same article claims, that [the Bitcoin Darknet Drug Lord] Ross Ulbricht, [who was sentenced to life in prison for this Silk Road crimes] had "innovation" and that he "stand up for the free market".

    The convicted serial criminal Ulbricht, found guilty of all charges, was also indirectly compared by that author with "Curie, Einstein, Heisenberg, Galilei, Gutenberg", Nobel Prize Winners and pioneering scientist!

    That says it all.

    A lot of crackheads, Ulbricht's former customers, and many in the Bitcoin community, they still believe, the conviction of Bitcoin Darknet Drug Lord Ulbricht was only a black helicopter conspiracy by the FBI.

    Others with obviously mental illness claims, Silk Road was quasi a paradise, and it's not so bad to have a free market place for drugs, weapons, counterfeit cash, forged ID documents, ammunition and even hitmen, what indeed Ulbricht's Silk Road was.

    So obviously also the thinking of that author, the reference in your post, and so the flood of conspiracy theory articles on the internet about that nonsense.

    No, I am not joking.
    Unfortunately, this is indeed the thinking and the moral standard with respect to law and order in major parts of the Bitcoin community, and this is the reason, why it is so dangerous.

    Look at most of the statements here on GPWA with respect on Bitcoin critics. Almost no facts, no real arguments, only attacks or attempts to discredit critics.

    A pattern.

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    What’s wrong? ALL.
    Satoshi Nakatomo IS NOT “him”. Satoshi Nakatomo IS “them” (much probably)

    Stating that “he is an Asian Guy”... it’s pretty ridiculous. As much as pairing “tulips” and “techs”. As much as stating “100 years” in the same statement of “technology” (we are near to the quantum computers era, considered “science fiction” just 3 - three - years ago when we “wooowed” to Siri and today we use it all day).

    All these screaming frogs are just watching at their interests going in ruin (I hope) without looking the tech behind (re-read the TheGooner post).

    And, strange enough... a lot of screaming frogs (“money money”) come from a single country. Scared to lose their “EUR Kingdom” (Oh... Uk said “bye bye”). Scared to loose their “dog slaves” all around the Europe?

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    "What’s wrong? ALL.
    Satoshi Nakatomo IS NOT “him”. Satoshi Nakatomo IS “them” (much probably) Stating that “he is an Asian Guy”... it’s pretty ridiculous.
    "

    I am sorry, but if you can't understand German and probably only using Google Translator, and so not understand our writing style of exaggeration and satire, then please visit a German language course first please, because now you are really at the edge of embarrassment with your he, him, it, they, we all together attempt to find at least one hair in the soup. The final would be searching for spelling mistakes in his statement.

    You cannot mess with Dirk Mueller. He is no mainstream media guy. He is more intelligent as most people here and he disclosed things, no one else disclosed, and this information were always useful to the people, who don't believe everything from German mainstream media and our government.

    You still miss the point from Dirk Mueller and also from this statement. His point is to focus on the impact of selective information or myths also with respect to Bitcoin and that Bitcoin is a fine trigger for some powerful finance forces in Europe to intensify the attempts to abolish cash, and these attempts are rising.

    In Germany most ordinary people are not interested in crypto, and they love their cash. It's a complete different situation as it is in Scandinavia.

    Anyway, interesting, no word about the Bitcoin Drug Lord in your post and that the "reference", the author, is debunked as a guy who quasi praises serious crime in the public.
    For sociologists this forum is indeed a infinite supply with respect to Bitcoin pushers.

    Bitcoin at this moment: $9315.00.

    Many people lost huge amounts of their money after they were pushed before last Christmas on social media, for sure also here on GPWA with insane pusher treads to invest into Bitcoin, and no ones knows, how long it takes for these people to recover from that and if there will recover at all.

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    Soooooo boooooooring! You sound like my grandpa! LOL
    Drug dealers use EURO, USD, NZD, AUD, CAD, Bitcoin, Ethereum, Dash, Monero or how you want to call "money". Is that too much difficult to understand?

    Honestly, I'm tired of your offenses not even too hidden (pushers, "not intelligent people", "Willy Wonka Bitcoin Clan" etc.).
    No one is recommending to invest in NOTHING and this is a false accusation. Personally, I have "someone near me" that do Technical Analysis for me (Degree in Economics) and I'm not sharing nothing with anyone due to the "high risk".

    Now, if I know you well, in less that 30 minutes you will come back with a widespread of words stating that I wrote "buy the dip" ignoring the fact that it was written in an hilarious context... and bla, bla, bla... for rows and rows and rows... making it look as the "shot of investigation of the century".

    Sincerely, i feel like an idiot just for starting to post in this thread. Wasted time. It's like washing the donkey's head, a waste of time. Drug dealers, child abuses, scams... we know, DAMN! The same exact BAD things can also be bought (mainly!) with your loved, paper cash.

    Tired of your "not even too hidden" offenses. Quitting.
    Play with your "Dirk", Batman. It's not my problem and my problems are not yours.

    I'm the "victim" nr...?

    Bye

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    Moments ago: Bitcoin price under $9,000!

    The "Polka King" rally continues!
    Pusher now working 24/7 to refill the pool with believers.
    Otherwise, the bubble will burst.
    Due to the 90%+ uncritical coverage of Bitcoin on the internet, they will be successful.


    Also happening now: Law enforcement agencies eying Twitter and "BitcoinTalk" forum for Darknet criminals.

    Target are people, suspected of being accessories or of having gathered to commit a crime in the Darknet.


    Strong signal: Europe's biggest power utility "Enel" refuses to power Bitcoin mining!

    Official statement: "Enel has undertaken a clear path towards decarbonisation and sustainable development and sees the intensive use of energy dedicated to cryptocurrency mining as an unsustainable practice that does not fit with the business model it is pursuing."

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    It's official!

    Bitcoin crime is rising!

    As a result U.S. Department of Justice now chasing with new task force after Bitcoin Drug Lords in the Darknet.

    "Joint Criminal Opioid Darknet Enforcement" (J-CODE) forces well prepared for the battle




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    +++ Addendum +++

    Minutes ago: With a price of 7,990, Bitcoin now crashed also under 8,000!
    A collapse at the edge of free fall speed.


    Crypto trading volume of $100,000,000,000 imploded within one day!
    Bitcoin is now back to the status quo of 24. November 2017.

    After that date the great "Polka King" pusher show started, the "2017 Christmas Surprise".
    More market corrections are possible, with a price down to $6,550 unless they will find enough new guys who are ready to invest into the hype.

    Confirmed: Due to the rising Bitcoin crime the market place Bitcoin.de will continue to disclose personal information from the customer databases to authorities, without judicial order!

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    red...red..red....more red....

    https://cryptowatch.de/

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    RED ALERT WARNING

    Fake crypto "Spritecoin" will hijack your computer!

    Ransomware "MoneroPay / Spritecoin" is not a cryptocurrency wallet!
    No, it's ransomware!

    When you fall into the trap of this evil software, your computer will be hijacked and you are forced to pay 0.3 Monero cryptocurrency ( https://www.cryptocompare.com/coins/xmr/overview/BTC ) to the criminals:



    Once again: A crypto crime, only possible due to the existence of crypto.
    The hijackers don't want cash, gold, diamonds, goods or a nude photo from your girlfriend.
    No, they want crypto!

    When the files are decrypting, "MoneroPay / Spritecoin" deploys more malware, which will collect certificates, parse your images and will take control over your webcam.

    So at the end, they will get their nude photos from your girlfriend over the webcam, and the photos will be shared everywhere in the Darknet.

    Again: "Spritecoin" does not exist. It's fake. It's a honeypot for the crypto hype newbies!

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    Goldman Sachs on Bitcoin: "There is no doubt that the rise in Bitcoin's price has pushed it into bubble territory."



    Source: http://www.goldmansachs.com/what-we-...tlook-2018.pdf

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    Unable and unwilling to respond to each and every looney post on this thread ...

    But I thought It was time to balance the thread with matching doom and gloom in traditional markets.

    HERE IS THE TRADITIONAL MARKETS REPORT :

    Stock Market Collapse :
    The Dow plummeted yesterday and it could be just the start :
    SOURCE : https://www.google.com/search?q=shar...hrome&ie=UTF-8

    Oh and as someone said above - all the traditional stock indices are RED RED RED ... a sea of RED.
    Is the stock market a good buy today?

    Bullion Performance :

    Silver has dumped from $50 per Oz in 2011 to less than $17 per OZ today.
    SOURCE : https://silverprice.org/silver-price...lars-per-ounce

    Gold was $1600 in 1980, it was $1800 in 2011 .. it's down to $1350 today.
    SOURCE : http://www.macrotrends.net/1333/hist...100-year-chart

    Is silver or gold a good buy?

    Property Performance :
    Property tends to react inversely to interest rates. Interest rates are close to zero and property prices in cities have skyrocketed.
    That's no surprise - when most costs are cheap - it's easy to take a huge mortgage and push property up.

    Now Western Countries are forced to start re-raising interest rates which will push mortage costs higher and increased forced sales.
    Is property a good buy?

    -------------------------------------

    Now to address some of the madness -

    Bank Robberies :
    So many people are breaking into banks and wanting CASH CASH CASH - this is a CASH crime they don't want your crypto.
    (To quote a nutter ... )
    SOURCE : https://www.google.com/search?q=bank...w=1680&bih=919

    We know that putting your money in the bank for 1-2% is NOT a good investment (quite apart from being stolen).
    So what is a good buy?

    Just Madness .. pure madness.
    I haven't got anything to say about the mad ramblings about a "Polka King" (WTF!?!) and the "Darknet" (never been there).
    It sounds almost as mad as recommending a martingale system for online betting. Who would do that?

    ------------------------

    Crypto Markets :
    I am NOT saying rush into buying CRYPTO-CURRENCIES (or anything else), I am not a financial adviser.

    Here are some facts - lets look at the top three crypto coins / tokens.:

    BITCOIN was priced at $280 in Jan 2015, $394 in Jan 2016, $958 in Jan 2017, and as high as $18000 in Jan 2018.
    Right now BITCOIN is priced at $8800 - less than half it's high - but 10x what it was a year ago. Is it a good buy?

    ETHEREUM
    was priced at $8.14 in January 2017. It was a good buy. Today it is $900. Is it still a good buy?

    RIPPLE is a bank focused product. 40 of the top 50 banks are looking to use it to speed up bank transfers and recude cost.
    It was 0.6 cents in January 2017, 20 cents in Oct 2017, got as high as $2.80, and is $0.85 today It it a good buy?

    Are any of those crypto tokens (the top 3 of over 1300 projects) a good buy today? Maybe, maybe not. They certainly were a good buy a year ago, but have all come off December highs when the mainstream markets and news sources devoted huge amounts of time to them and pumped them.

    As for today? That would be telling (remember I am not a financial advisor) you need to make your own mind up.
    Crypto-currencies are a valid field of human endeavour and they are a viable and valuable market to INFORMED INVESTORS.


    ---------------------------

    Finally, just some acknowledgement that SELLING LOW and BUYING HIGH will send you broke in any market. The best time to buy traditional shares in the US was immediately after the global financial crisis when prices were very low after unsophisticated people sold for pennies on the dollar.

    Financially Unsophisticated :
    - When the sales are on in the shops - some people rush in to save 10%-20% on consumer items that they don't need - and claim to have saved.
    - When financial markets drop in price - people people rush to the exits and sell for losses and shout it's all a scam.

    Often - these shoe buyers/stock sellers are the same people. They have no financial concept of money and/or markets.

    If someone is shouting at you after a market crash and "celebrating" ... they are not experts ... they are ego driven <fill in the blank>
    (whether its on TV or in the forum).

    I have one BIG message for readers of this thread - DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH.

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    Is it possible to track the movements with a chart ? I mean the sell/buy - movements.

    I found this ...

    https://charts.bitcoin.com/chart/daily-transactions
    https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTCUSD/

    The Dez. spike can be "sell" and the spike last month can be "buy" ...or not...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progger View Post
    Is it possible to track the movements with a chart ? I mean the sell/buy - movements.

    I found this ...

    https://charts.bitcoin.com/chart/daily-transactions
    https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTCUSD/

    The Dez. spike can be "sell" and the spike last month can be "buy" ...or not...
    https://www.tradingview.com/chart/njToKuwd/
    (Exchange: Bitfinex)

    Chart with:

    Volume
    Buy/Sell Pressure Raw
    MACD Indicators

    Please, note: not sure if you can see Technical Analysis on it. Don't take care about it if you see. It's from my broker and it's old.

    Quitting again...

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