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    Default UK takes steps to ban gambling with credit cards

    Calling problem gambling a “public health emergency,” the UK Labour Party is vowing to introduce a ban on bets using credit cards as part of a major crackdown

    Advertisements during live sporting events would also be outlawed and gambling addicts would be urged to tell their bank to put a stop to their online transactions.

    Finally, Labour would levy of 1% on gambling companies’ profits to ensure they “take responsibility for harm caused.”

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    Tom Watson, Labour’s deputy leader, accused the government of “letting problem gamblers and their families down”, by failing to act.

    “Problem gambling is Britain's hidden epidemic and we must treat it as a public health emergency,” he said.

    “Current gambling regulation is not up to the job of protecting addicts and those at risk of addiction. Treatment is patchy across the country and too often patients are misdiagnosed and not treated by specialists who can spot the signs."
    Also in the cross hairs is live betting:

    Labour's review also uncovered concerns that, with instant online betting now widely available via smartphones, addicts, young people and those with mental health problems are particularly vulnerable.

    Under Labour's proposals, bookmakers would still be able to offer odds on sporting events during play, but would not be allowed to advertise them for a specified period before and after games or during half-time or other breaks.
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    UK has gone from the prime example of a well regulated market to the prime example of a nanny state!

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    I suppose they also ban Neteller and Skrill in that case? People can upload money there with a credit card.

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    Very easy for parties that are not in power to throw around policies. Wouldn't be too concerned about it yet.

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    I really think people should never, i mean NEVER gamble on credit, but there has to be easy ways to deposit if not with credit cards.
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    This is all just empty talk. They've been talking about banning gambling advertisements and so forth for so many years and nothing has ever been done about it. I don't think it's going to happen and there's nothing to be worried about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieG1981 View Post
    Very easy for parties that are not in power to throw around policies. Wouldn't be too concerned about it yet.

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    Never say never. Belgium will implement such a law, which will even outlaw Neteller if they do not block credit card payments.

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    Personally I think it's inevitable. We've seen the same with Smoking advertising and the watershed for other products. It's just a matter of time before additional controls are introduced. I can't see a complete ban happening, but control over when adverts can appear on TV wouldn't surprise me.

    As for using a credit card to gamble with, that should be outlawed immediately. There is no way that anyone should be gambling with money that is not theirs.
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    Credit card payments and the internet go hand-in-hand for most people, it's not usually a case of needed "credit" as such, but instead people use the payment mechanism as a simple way to pay.

    Perhaps a move to Visa/Mastercard debit cards is required - where no credit is actually offered as people link to their own bank accounts - which can use the same authorisation processes?

    However, this is another example of governments wanting exerting draconian control over people and their own money. If this was likely to pass in future (if/when Labour get into power in the UK) then I'd expect to see a significant percentage of UK gamblers start looking to crypto.

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    This will just push more online casinos to offer crypto payment options.
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    I find it incredible that governments want to take care of people's lives in relation to gambling.
    We will be conditioned to spend our money where the government wants and we can not do anything about it.
    Cautions must be taken but they can not prohibit people from doing what they want.
    This is my point of view regarding this

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexcorsa View Post
    I find it incredible that governments want to take care of people's lives in relation to gambling.
    We will be conditioned to spend our money where the government wants and we can not do anything about it.
    Cautions must be taken but they can not prohibit people from doing what they want.
    This is my point of view regarding this
    Have you ever thought why state is defined as monopoly on violence? No monopoly on violence = no state. State, that is not prohibiting people to do what they want, ceases to exist very fast.

    On the other hand state that is bossing everybody ceases to exist in the end as well.

    I agree they will try to do with gambling the same things as with tobacco. But gambling is not tobacco. Tobacco is a physical thing, gambling is not. Cryptography is advancing fast. I am not from UK, but even with tobacco I heard there is a big blackmarket with smuggled cigarettes. In gambling, the illegal operations would and hopefully will take over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    On the other hand state that is bossing everybody ceases to exist in the end as well.
    I doubt that is correct. People are ready to accept far more control and limits than in the past. And you don't need to look far back to see. Many actually in favor. I mean in NY they proposed a law on limiting the cup size of a soda drink...

    I am sure the interference of the state into our personal lives will be stronger and stronger. What now seems limited will look like Wild West in 20 years. Especially with the possibilities technology offers.

    Think just in regards to driving - i doubt in 10 years you will be able to over-speed (with autonomic car or without). Or drink and drive with the bio advance of mobiles and such.
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    People could instantly transfer funds from their credit card to their debit card and then make a deposit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    If this was likely to pass in future (if/when Labour get into power in the UK) then I'd expect to see a significant percentage of UK gamblers start looking to crypto.
    I don't think this would be the case, we have so many other options available in the UK - including plenty that punters are very familiar with like paypal, apple pay etc... Plus all the ewallets.

    Besides, everyone seems to use debit cards anyway due to the added costs on a credit card for betting. I know plenty of people who don't have credit cards, they just use their debit cards for everything.

    So tbh I don't see this as a big deal. Besides, the gambling commission were already looking into it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMM View Post
    I doubt that is correct. People are ready to accept far more control and limits than in the past. And you don't need to look far back to see. Many actually in favor. I mean in NY they proposed a law on limiting the cup size of a soda drink...

    I am sure the interference of the state into our personal lives will be stronger and stronger. What now seems limited will look like Wild West in 20 years. Especially with the possibilities technology offers.

    Think just in regards to driving - i doubt in 10 years you will be able to over-speed (with autonomic car or without). Or drink and drive with the bio advance of mobiles and such.
    My observation is that history is in circles. People in the Western Europe see the last decades as you describe it. But that is just a particular history and too wide generalization. There is a point where things break up. It will certainly happen in the West as well. I do not know when it will happen and I resigned to wait for it already a decade ago. The fact is that now I can pay anonymously better than 10 or 20 years ago, just you gotta be smarter. Same about speeding: simply the system is so complicated that there are more and more loopholes. People rely on complicated systems with feedback loops, but that is deadly approach. Any website I go to has glitches. Almost anything is hackeable.

    I was living in socialism when iron curtain has fallen down. Nobody could imagine it and almost nobody was expecting it. The system became so stupid (like this UK proposal to go against its own tax inflows), that it broke from inside. Brexit easily can trigger such breakdown. Or the history has to wait a bit longer. The markets with sins are needed for humans. If the oppression is too high, everything will explode. I am not fan of alt-right movement, but you can see them taking over everywhere. It is the symptom of the pressure.
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    Even if they don’t stop players gambling on the credit card the gambling commission will more than likely soon bring in a ban on tv advertising for gambling ads before 9pm as minors may see them.


    If it happens then it will affect some bingo operators that rely on sponsored day time tv ads. Which means that those companies who closed their bingo affiliate programs may have to reopen them again..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple7 View Post
    Never say never. Belgium will implement such a law, which will even outlaw Neteller if they do not block credit card payments.
    Also Italy and much more aggressively...

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