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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiocch View Post
    Just because "thebigG", since April 2012, is a "broken thing"
    Perhaps, however, this person is using industry strength cloaking methods. Fantomaster dot com or something similar . Google has not a chance. nor do we...

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    There this is what type of **** we're up against. Mix this up with the hacking he does: voila, you can now buy yourself a nice farm in Costa Rica.

    Even if they were actively hunting it down, they'd always be up front, but running after the facts.

    This is why he ranks. Check the cached pages of those hacked sites (find one or two) and you will see it. Google is being served the jibberish, the visitor will be served the hacked page. Really clever technology. Expensive too.

    Attention: This is even more interesting now.. Now that I re read this post, I see

    Last edited by antihacker; Today at 4:02 pm. Reason: source link added

    I DID NOT write this reason down. 'source link added' was done NOT by me. I've actually edited the post to take OUT the 'source' link (which only appeared AFTER I posted the post. No way did I post the source link in my post. Why would I?

    So, there. This is how clever this whole fantomaster thing is. It does things for you, that you don't even want it to do.
    Last edited by antihacker; 25 September 2014 at 4:07 pm. Reason: source link added

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I would not be so quick to accuse affiliate programs of not closing an account if they say they have.

    First, the affiliate in question might not get the hacked pages updated quickly after he does lose his account.
    Wrong, his changes are in real time. Instantly. Period. And, 'not so quick'?? Try hold your breath for a month, and see if that is 'quick' - One month is more than too long right now. Same time I've lost all of my business. Why can't he?? My situation: No **** was given by anyone. His situation: Sugar coat it and let's wait.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    The affiliate in question might not monitor his email closely and may not know he lost the account for a while.
    Do you think, just sending him a friendly email is sufficient in this case? No it is not. They should do whatever it takes to make their voices heard by the hacker. An email does not give a result. Nor should it be used in this case.

    Ask them how they would react if someone was stealing from THEM! I bet, it would be looked after within the hour.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    The affiliate in question might not believe that he can and will lose access to his accounts.
    What? He can? Will? What the... He HAS!! No debating it. And, they should FORCE him to take their brands down ASAP. Not tomorrow, NOW!!

    Let me tell you, those that DID ban him, were replaced with other casinos the very same day. Explain that please.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    The affiliate in question might have additional accounts at the programs and could switch codes.
    Time enough to monitor it. And, the aff program has ways to discover it / know it.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    The affiliate in question might be contacting the programs pleading his case BEFORE changing the pages or links.
    Yeah. The answer should be: Remove now: you are banned.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I can think of a number of other scenarios where the links or codes might not get updated as fast as you think they should if in fact he does lose access to his accounts, but I am not ready to claim that what the management of the programs are telling us concerning this individual is false either.
    Look at the clock. We are ONE month further. With all due respect: Still think this is the case??

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I DO agree that this individual can and should have his accounts frozen/closed/access removed etc.
    First thing that makes sense in this post.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I also do agree that if a program tells us that it is being dealt with and we find out later it hasn't been, then we have a case against them.
    This is why proof was requested. None was given. We have no foot to stand on.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I also agree that the programs that refuse to at least discuss what is going on, is a slap in the face to hard working affiliates and a bit disrespectful, but we should be willing to respectfully and professionally enter into discussions with them, about the problem, instead of making threats or throwing accusations at them.
    If you know that, can you also imagine how it feels to me personally, after having lost all? (After having been exposed with my personal details in this very forum) With all due respect: This part is clearly spoken from a 'GPWA' point of interest type of view, not from an affiliate point who has been affected by it, and most certainly not from someone who has seen all of his work go down the drain simply for sticking out his neck to help us all, including the aff programs.. A discussion goes two ways. So far, next to NONE has been vented back at us. There IS no discussion. We are being made to wait, wait and wait. I am ALL for being polite. But, there are limits.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    In some cases, maybe the programs or the rep doesn't quite understand the issue. (I know we have tried to make it understandable, but maybe a few of them aren't getting it)
    If that is the case, then why not take a moment to ask, instead of wait, wait wait and wait a bit more??

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I think that most of us agree that at least a portion of the traffic this individual is delivering is being generated by less than ethical means, and I think we will get much more positive responses from the programs by stating the case better and by the reduction of accusations and threats.
    They should take a moment to read. And, ask. So far, no questions have been asked, nor did we get any satisfactory input what so ever.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    In addition, I am also a bit confused as to why the pages continue to rank since they are CLEARLY duplicated and should be thrown out just for that simple fact.
    Rick, it is not the duplicate content that ranks. Check out the cached pages (if you can find any, as this tool of his is TOO clever) (Fantomaster dot com, see my post I did a little earlier answering to dfiocch)

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    Why still all this 'sugar coating'?? I don't get it.
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    You are attacking the wrong people, and I have NOT sugar coated anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    You are attacking the wrong people, and I have NOT sugar coated anything.

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    I am not saying you are sugar coating anything. It is going on in general Rick. Pardon me if you thought I did aim that at you. I did not. And, I am not attacking anyone. Most certainly not you.

    Allow me to paint my picture: You try losing all, then see if you can remain calm as a breeze, knowing that no affiliate programs are willing to ban him. Again, I am not attacking anyone, especially not you. I have however lost it all, which is being ignored by all.

    Thanks for understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    You are attacking the wrong people, and I have NOT sugar coated anything.

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    Michael needs to step in here and "inspire" sponsor affiliate programs to get their act together and deal with the hacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    Michael needs to step in here and "inspire" sponsor affiliate programs to get their act together and deal with the hacker.
    I am afraid that won't happen. If not for a month, then why now? Same thing as Michael answering PM's that have been sent over this.

    I am beginning to believe that the GPWA has interest in keeping sponsors happy. Nothing bad, it happens all over the world. That is why they pay big money.

    However, I am beginning to understand that this forum is not for the 'webmasters'... It is a commercial entity where the main core business is to bring more affiliates to the programs who are willing to pay.

    Michael should have already let his voice be heard. I think his company is one of the bigger 'affiliate' businesses compared to all of us. With respect of course, however, a bit of sticking out the neck would have been much appreciated.

    So far - nada. This is not 'being negative' it is merely a conclusion and a huge chance missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    Michael needs to step in here and "inspire" sponsor affiliate programs to get their act together and deal with the hacker.
    just spat my drink all over my computer. He promised me a full indepth look at the stan james issue, yet 5 months later i've heard nothing and GPWA still get PAID by stan james, hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Edit - just reminded me that both Anthony and Michael have both ignored PM's about this (stan james) so for full disclosure have PM's Universal4 (rick) for him to get an answer, so lets see what happens next, probably me banned for a bit
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    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    We will be in touch with this specific affiliate to find out more details.
    If we find that this affiliate (or any other affiliate for that matter) has infringed any of the clauses mentioned under "Terms and Termination" on our T&Cs, we will terminate our agreement.
    With all my respect

    Are you sure, that your team have i right to investigate this situation?

    Hacking site - this is not only your T&C violation.
    This is not your jurisdiction.
    First off all - this is crime.

    Hacking site - this is crime.
    Stolen traffic from hacking site - this is crime.
    If you receive traffic from hacking sites - this is crime.
    If you don't frozen this account and don't report to police after you receive
    notification, this is - crime. It means that some people from affiliate program
    protect serious crime activity. This is crime too (lawers call this - complicity).

    For example - if somebody stolen my credit card and make deposit in your casinos.
    And i inform you about this? What your team do? 1.) Report police or 2.) start your own investigation?
    I think the first. When somebody hacking sites - from law point of view - this is the same = crime.
    If you don't belive me, ask your lawers.

    And does not matter where you team and your company located - in UK or in the State of Israel
    This is crime in both countries.

    Only you know - who this black affiliate is. If you don't frozen they account and report
    to autorities you play with fire. Becouse in future your country authorities can indict you (personally you, not your company) the charge of harboring cyber crimes and complicity in cyber crimes.

    Sorry for my bad English language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat View Post
    With all my respect

    Are you sure, that your team have i right to investigate this situation?

    Hacking site - this is not only your T&C violation.
    This is not your jurisdiction.
    First off all - this is crime.

    Hacking site - this is crime.
    Stolen traffic from hacking site - this is crime.
    If you receive traffic from hacking sites - this is crime.
    If you don't frozen this account and don't report to police after you receive
    notification, this is - crime. It means that some people from affiliate program
    protect serious crime activity. This is crime too (lawers call this - complicity).

    For example - if somebody stolen my credit card and make deposit in your casinos.
    And i inform you about this? What your team do? 1.) Report police or 2.) start your own investigation?
    I think the first. When somebody hacking sites - from law point of view - this is the same = crime.
    If you don't belive me, ask your lawers.

    And does not matter where you team and your company located - in UK or in the State of Israel
    This is crime in both countries.

    Only you know - who this black affiliate is. If you don't frozen they account and report
    to autorities you play with fire. Becouse in future your country authorities can indict you (personally you, not your company) the charge of harboring cyber crimes and complicity in cyber crimes.

    Sorry for my bad English language.
    Hi Moonlight Cat,

    Thanks. The hacker has been 'paused'. Not banned, but paused. (Of which you will find the definition below)

    To read the exact words as have been given, see this quote:

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Hi,

    We have paused our deal with this affiliate and have asked to be removed from his site.

    It could take a few days, but will be done soon.

    Thanks,
    On which I answered:

    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    Hi, Thanks for the update!

    What is the definition of 'paused' please?
    Is he banned?

    Thank you
    The answer I got:

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    It means we're off the site, and we're not dealing with him.
    On which I asked:

    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    Banned so.. Right?
    Which resulted in this fantastic answer:

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Banned is a strong word.
    We're not working with him anymore, nor will we do so in the near future.
    Jokerman99 then asked

    Quote Originally Posted by Jokerman99 View Post
    Will you be paying commission on players sent to date from the thousands of hacked websites?
    To be shut up by

    Quote Originally Posted by NHLinden View Post
    Hi,

    I cannot reveal payments information on the forum.
    No affiliate, no matter what he does, would like his payment or stats details revealed here.

    What I wrote so far should be enough to understand how we see things and how we're acting on this instance

    Thanks
    I then answered:

    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    A simple no (or yes in your case) would be enough. This reveals nothing BUT just how crooked you are. And, besides that, do you realize just how much this leaves open for speculation? You won't say no, you won't say yes. Any honest program would state no. Others did, you know? With other words, you simply pay him, and work with his organization.

    I know. My personal details HAVE been shared here by the same madafaka you protect. Or, by his accomplish who is now more than likely looking after his relationship with you..

    Take a tea bag. Make 1000000000000000000 cups of tea with this bag.

    Your answer is as strong as the 10000000000000000001th cup.

    Steve says to his accomplish, you just deal with them now, and voila.

    I call fraud. And I call it out loud.

    I hope you get rogued. I'll never work with you. And I hope others will too BAN you.

    Shame on you.
    And continued further with:

    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    I've posted that I've found another site (just like the original hacker site) WITH your brand on it.

    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    A new case on which your brand is on too:

    warsztatyszczecinek. eu/ ?p=Deuces-wild-video-poker

    Obviously http:// warsztatyszczecinek. eu/ has nothing to do with casinos.


    http:// ads2.williamhill. com/redirect.aspx?pid=182609514&bid=1487410909&lpid=14 87410763 is the affiliate in this particular one.

    Perpetrating site: http:// promocasino. ru/

    Could be the same.
    Could WELL be the same. IMHO it IS the same!

    Ban him AND ALL WHO WORK WITH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is EXACTLY what I was afraid for: Just give him another account...

    Nice one.

    Do you realize just how much this is shitting in my face? I've lost all thanks to this madafaka.

    Banning a strong word my ass.
    No answer on that one as of yet. (on both occasions I posted it)

    The hacker has been 'paused', yet his organization has more than likely gotten a new account or something. Speculative perhaps, but it does look like it. But, we should 'shut up' as 'what has been written so far should be enough to understand how the affiliate program sees things and how they're acting on this instance'

    Banning is a heavy word ... Paused..

    (Definition of pausing: temporarily interrupt the operation)

    It is indeed becoming more and more clear how these guys and most other affiliate programs are acting.

    They ARE acting...

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    Hello,

    here are some thoughts for the weekend. Please don't forget, that a forum is not made for the members only. It's made for the public audience!

    For any other reasons of posting hidden areas exist, that are not public to the audience. A lot of areas like that in GPWA exist. But this is a public thread, a very important thread for the people outside of a GPWA membership, for new readers, possible victims!

    New readers!

    So, ... it goes without saying that they cannot be expected to read all 249 posts in this thread.

    It will be also very helpfully, if informations could be written into one or up to a maximum of two posts in a row, because otherwise many readers are losing concentration and desire to read.

    Moreover: Every page of a GPWA thread has a maximum of 20 posts. The 21st post open a new page of the thread. It's similar to search engine results: Normal readers are reading the 1st result page of Google some the 2nd, but only a few the 3rd or more.

    The last page of this thread will be read by all new readers. The first and second page and second last page and third from last also by a big part of new readers, but all other pages, helpfully information are embedded, only by a minority.

    The sense of a real working thread is not to write as much posts as possible in a row. There is no rush, and writing a single post or two later the day with the same information from 10 posts will safe valuable information, which otherwise will never be found by new readers.

    For example: Short dfiocch's posts are now on second last page, but the reason is not, that 10 different users have written after him. It would be nice, if Moonlight Cat's posts will remain on last page of this thread for at least 48 hours.

    It has to do a little bit with empathy to the readers, the audience, because no one is writing here for himself, or?

    Otherwise it increasingly seems to me that finally in which this thread has a hand comes to nothing.

    I whish all participants ot this thread a wonderful weekend.

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    He is using content from GPWA member sites to inject this as a script into the hacked sites that is why he can keep doing this

    I have found him copying my site with a print scraper tool as he is using the 888casino affid SR1112250 on his landing pages.

    so not only he is hacking sites he is also stealing content !

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    All victims, who speak oral English language fluently.

    You may call to (+44) 0121 230 6666
    This is UKGC (United Kingdom Gambling Comission).
    Hot Line (during office hours, GMT).

    Also you may send you claim and proofs to this e-mail: info@gamblingcommission.gov.uk
    (including copy of chat and e-mail conversation with affiliate managers)

    Before you call or send information, please read this:

    http://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk...omplaints.aspx


    About UK Gambling Comission:

    The list of responsibilities of the Gambling Commission includes work to ensure that licensees act in accordance with the requirements imposed by the Gambling Act 2005 and other related regulations and standards. The Commission has the right to visit its licensees and examine their financial activities. As a result of this examination, specialists from the Gambling Commission can issue recommendations for amendments. Apart from such advice, supplementary license conditions can be set or removed. In some cases, the Commission may take action to correct or avoid certain misconducts.

    Apart from reviewing the activities of the licensed operators, the Commission is authorised to take regulatory actions against those licensees who breach the rules in some way. The range of actions that may need to be taken varies from issuing a warning to inflicting a fine on those who violate license conditions. In situations where additional investigation is required, the license can be revoked.
    The Intelligence department of the Gambling Commission collects information about the illegal activities related to their field and conducts preliminary investigation in order to build a picture of the situation and inform senior management.They also collaborate with other UK organisations and the police in cases where suspicious betting or gambling activities are detected.

    The list of operators and personal license holders who have had a regulatory sanction imposed on them is published on the site of the Gambling Commission
    Information about gambling operators in UK Gambling Comission database.
    You may find information about operators here:
    https://secure.gamblingcommission.go.../PRSearch.aspx

    If you gambling operator in the list - send claim to UK Gambling Comission.

    Use this information in your claims:

    For Example:
    __________________________________________________ _
    Reference 39225
    Licensee name WHG (International) Limited - William Hill Online
    Principal address


    6/1 Waterport Place
    GIBRALTAR
    GX111AA
    __________________________________________________ __


    Reference 2752
    Licensee name: William Hill Organisation Limited
    Principal address


    William Hill Bookmakers
    Greenside House, 50 Station Road
    LONDON
    N22 7TP
    __________________________________________________ ____

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepogg View Post
    Specifically I would like to know what programs have been contacted and which programs have offered a response?
    As expected I've been totally consumed by recent changes. The sale of the Wizard of Odds site has had a substantial impact on me both in terms of the loss of a lot of very strong links and having to source a new reference for various information I'm working flat out to recover my own issues right now.

    While I simply don't have the available time to sink into this issue as I would usually I would like to take some action at this point. If someone can provide a list of programs that have been associated with this site alongside a list of programs that have banned the individual I'll update the reviews of those casinos who haven't to reflect the fact that they continue to work with a business partner engaged in criminal activities. To my mind enough time has now passed to have taken action on this issue and if casinos choose to do something further down the line they can notify users here to ensure they are accurately reflected.
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    "This is the sound of silence" (semi-cit.)

    Is this?

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    AffEurope, also on the criminal list, make a fuss: "Has anyone seen any proof of this hacking? before we start crying wolf have these allegations been checked out?"

    The whole story: http://affiliateguarddog.com/communi...us-crime.7956/

    Leopold

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    Current results regarding the hacker issue

    Today: Affiliates United - Platinum (!) sponsor of GPWA

    The official statement of Mr. Nadav Linden (Head Of Affiliation) is, that Affiliate United only have "paused" (!) their deal with the criminal. No clarifying statement exist, that the business relationship is terminated, a big difference.

    Also very clear is the statement, that Affiliates United will not work with the criminal at the current time and in "near future", but the head of affiliation has not excluded the chance to work with the criminal again sometime in a distant future, which is absolutely necessary, because limiting a "paused" deal only to the "near future" raises questions.

    This is a fact, and here is the source: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/urgent-pl...tml#post768669

    This statement of Mr. Linden, representative of a GPWA Platinum sponsor, shows us the back door that is left open to continue the business relationship with an individual criminal or criminal organisation sometime in a distant future.

    A contrary statement of Affiliates United does not exist. Funds of criminal origin are nonnegotiable. Dialogue in its various manifestations contains virtualities and potentialities to deliberately play down crime.

    We say in Germany: "It stinks up to the sky!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiocch View Post
    "This is the sound of silence" (semi-cit.)

    Is this?
    It's like Zed.

    Who is Zed?

    Zed's Dead...

    All I've seen here is activity from affiliates. And, we are all as helpless as we have proven to be. Without a voice of GPWA - what's the use being here?

    Not a f****** thing from the 'association' ... That to me says it all: They don't care about us. (Other than letting us sign up to make more money over us...)

    It has been a waste of time. The hacker is stronger than ever, and even platinum sponsors are left alone.

    I'm out. I invite all of you to close the door too, and motivate others to leave too.

    This forum is just like casinoaffiliateprograms. Based on making money for the owners, not looking after the affiliates one single bit.

    A waste of time.

    Thanks to all who did participate. But, it clearly is like mopping in the Atlantic ocean or like trying to sell water to the fish swimming in it.

    I am hugely disappointed.

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    the .org is misleading
    I have never had the impression this forum was/is for affiliates.

    I feel for those that spend hours and hours here and get an award and are proud of themselves.

    Sorry guys not buying it not today not tomorrow, it is all politics and money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepogg View Post
    As expected I've been totally consumed by recent changes. The sale of the Wizard of Odds site has had a substantial impact on me both in terms of the loss of a lot of very strong links and having to source a new reference for various information I'm working flat out to recover my own issues right now.

    While I simply don't have the available time to sink into this issue as I would usually I would like to take some action at this point. If someone can provide a list of programs that have been associated with this site alongside a list of programs that have banned the individual I'll update the reviews of those casinos who haven't to reflect the fact that they continue to work with a business partner engaged in criminal activities. To my mind enough time has now passed to have taken action on this issue and if casinos choose to do something further down the line they can notify users here to ensure they are accurately reflected.

    The list keeps changing as the hacker keeps adding sites to replace the ones that have been removed. I contacted both sponsor and non-sponsor programs. Please let me know if any updates need to be made and if you have some on your list that you need me to contact.

    Programs that stopped working with the hacker:
    BGO
    Paddy Power
    Betfair
    Ace Revenue
    William HIll
    Europartners
    Star Games
    Fortune Affiliates (asked to be removed through an affiliate network arrangement)

    Programs that have been contacted and are investigating:
    AffEurope
    Prime Gaming
    AffiliStars

    Other:
    AffPower. Continues to work with hacker after discussions. Feels since their agreement is for a PPC campaign and they could not see any other traffic delivered there was no reason to terminate agreement. https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affpower-...tml#post765831
    iAffiliates waiting to hear back from
    Affactive, they said in August they terminated there agreement with the hacker, but the sites are still listed.
    888.com waiting to hear back from
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    Current results regarding the hacker issue

    Today: Affiliates United - Platinum (!) sponsor of GPWA

    The official statement of Mr. Nadav Linden (Head Of Affiliation) is, that Affiliate United only have "paused" (!) their deal with the criminal. No clarifying statement exist, that the business relationship is terminated, a big difference.

    Also very clear is the statement, that Affiliates United will not work with the criminal at the current time and in "near future", but the head of affiliation has not excluded the chance to work with the criminal again sometime in a distant future, which is absolutely necessary, because limiting a "paused" deal only to the "near future" raises questions.

    This is a fact, and here is the source: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/urgent-pl...tml#post768669

    This statement of Mr. Linden, representative of a GPWA Platinum sponsor, shows us the back door that is left open to continue the business relationship with an individual criminal or criminal organisation sometime in a distant future.

    A contrary statement of Affiliates United does not exist. Funds of criminal origin are nonnegotiable. Dialogue in its various manifestations contains virtualities and potentialities to deliberately play down crime.

    We say in Germany: "It stinks up to the sky!"

    Leopold
    Affiliates United was very cooperative. They were prompt to reply to me and with immediate effect stopped the campaign and asked for all of their material to be removed from the hackers site. Attacking Affiliates United for pausing the campaign instead of terminating is just a matter of semantics. Bottom line the hacker is not promoting them. If AU reactivated the campaign then I could understand your issue with them, but right now I want to thank them for addressing the issue and taking action.
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