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    Quote Originally Posted by Casino360.eu View Post
    I could immagine that the LGA Malta would be thrilled to hear that their licensees are supporting a wordwide hacking scam...
    Ofcourse if they find the programs guilty by participating in money laundering this could cost them dearly.

    http://www.mga.org.mt/wp-content/upl...ering-Act1.pdf

    I would advise anyone of you (also the GPWA) to send a complaint.

    BTW the Buffalopartners hacker is still very much active.
    his landingpages are e.g. :

    gamblingyard.com
    top48games.com
    onlinetopcasinos.com
    etc etc

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    I see AffPower back now too... Filing a complaint to LGA is a good idea. There's also a new brand on ver cas: fruity casa or something like that

    888 is a big sponsor of conferences. An idea to get this on the agenda there?

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    The programs that willingly support these hackers should realize that they may not only be supporting organized crime syndicates but they may also be supporting terrorist organizations like ISIS.

    The blade that cuts the throat of the next innocent person may have been sponsored by 888.con and cronies.
    Last edited by DaftDog; 30 May 2015 at 2:16 am. Reason: added cronies ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casino360.eu View Post
    Hi,I have the following hypothesis

    1) either the hackers are asking dumping prices and working on low revenue share or cpa so that they are much cheaper than normal affiliates.

    2) or the hackers have negotiation power, meaning they are running also big normal affiliate sites. So some casinos cannot afford to loose the entire trafficI have no other explanation for casinos engaging in criminal activity, which this hack simply is.I mean, do those casinos not risk their license at a certain point? Perhaps gpwa should make an offical letter to the licensing authorites?I could immagine that the LGA Malta would be thrilled to hear that their licensees are supporting a wordwide hacking scam...
    I can thing of another couple of possibilities;

    3) If a program has no possibility of exposure on a displaced site. For instance, none of the programs that have been working with this hacker received positive placement on ThePOGG.com. Even before all of this they were either lowly rated or listed as 'Not Recommended' or 'Blacklisted'. So if I was displaced by hacked sites, the traffic that went to the programs that worked with the hacker would never have ended up with those programs otherwise.

    Many of the programs still on these sites have rightfully earned themselves a negative reputation in other ways. There will be improving their exposure on this network.

    [Note - this whole situation, watching the programs I've work with a lot shut hacker associations down quickly while programs that I've rated poorly haven't, has only reinforced my confidence that my rating system is doing a pretty good job.]

    4) If this operation was actually being run by some of the casinos involved they'd be getting traffic but not having to pay for it. I've heard this theory and whisperings of an inside job from a few different people. Personally I think this is a little off the mark. It's unlikely that all these groups got together to set up this operation and share the gains and if that's not the case why would the group behind it offer traffic to some of their competitors? I guess it'd be a fairly effective way of covering their tracks, but you'd still expect one group to be taking the lion's share and from what I've seen the same brands have consistently been mixed and matched between positions.

    On a totally separate note - I really don't understand why the hacker group having other big affiliate sites is being taken into consideration when people are judging this activity. There are two issues here - 1) the activity is actively damaging all of your brands, your brand should matter more than the short term profit a criminal operation can provide regardless of how big 2) we're talking about CRIMINAL activity here! If I become aware that a business I'm partnered with is engaged in criminal activity and I not only don't report it to the authorities (this group have been paid by every program still listed, we all know that, so you all have the information to do this), but continue to support their operation I've become complicit in the criminal activity.
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    Actually - I have a contact at the MGA (rebranded from the LGA) - I'll drop them a line early next week and see if they're aware of all of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thepogg View Post
    I can thing of another couple of possibilities;

    3) If a program has no possibility of exposure on a displaced site. For instance, none of the programs that have been working with this hacker received positive placement on ThePOGG.com. Even before all of this they were either lowly rated or listed as 'Not Recommended' or 'Blacklisted'. So if I was displaced by hacked sites, the traffic that went to the programs that worked with the hacker would never have ended up with those programs otherwise.

    Many of the programs still on these sites have rightfully earned themselves a negative reputation in other ways. There will be improving their exposure on this network.

    [Note - this whole situation, watching the programs I've work with a lot shut hacker associations down quickly while programs that I've rated poorly haven't, has only reinforced my confidence that my rating system is doing a pretty good job.]

    4) If this operation was actually being run by some of the casinos involved they'd be getting traffic but not having to pay for it. I've heard this theory and whisperings of an inside job from a few different people. Personally I think this is a little off the mark. It's unlikely that all these groups got together to set up this operation and share the gains and if that's not the case why would the group behind it offer traffic to some of their competitors? I guess it'd be a fairly effective way of covering their tracks, but you'd still expect one group to be taking the lion's share and from what I've seen the same brands have consistently been mixed and matched between positions.

    On a totally separate note - I really don't understand why the hacker group having other big affiliate sites is being taken into consideration when people are judging this activity. There are two issues here - 1) the activity is actively damaging all of your brands, your brand should matter more than the short term profit a criminal operation can provide regardless of how big 2) we're talking about CRIMINAL activity here! If I become aware that a business I'm partnered with is engaged in criminal activity and I not only don't report it to the authorities (this group have been paid by every program still listed, we all know that, so you all have the information to do this), but continue to support their operation I've become complicit in the criminal activity.
    Historically, there have been many operators/affiliate programs/affiliate managers who were also affiliates and affiliates who were also operators/affiliate managers/affiliate programs.

    The original group behind Merge gaming, Ignite Bingo, United Commissions, theLotter, certain past Will Hill affiliate managers, and Party Poker all owned and operated portals, review sites, independent news sites, & other online ventures that sent traffic to their competition as well as reinforced their own brand's "worth". Such an idea of this being a program of some sort or an insider behind at least one of the hacking groups would not be so far fetched an idea...

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    Quote Originally Posted by -shay- View Post
    historically, there have been many operators/affiliate programs/affiliate managers who were also affiliates and affiliates who were also operators/affiliate managers/affiliate programs.

    The original group behind merge gaming, ignite bingo, united commissions, thelotter, certain past will hill affiliate managers, and party poker all owned and operated portals, review sites, independent news sites, & other online ventures that sent traffic to their competition as well as reinforced their own brand's "worth". Such an idea of this being a program of some sort or an insider behind at least one of the hacking groups would not be so far fetched an idea...
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    The hacker is hacking also finnish websites. I think that this landingpage is new. Check this www.caferiga.fi/nettikasinot There is also other hacked pages with keyword mobile casinos and so.. thismismshit.

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    What a ****. I asked from the host service in livechat that does they allow hacking websites with their service. The answer was "no" After I showed some hacked websites the customerservice guy was very angry and said they haven't reveived complaints about this. And after that the person closed livechat. I think that the host is actually the hacker. Or the hacker is giving a lot of cash for them..

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    some examples from google in finland:

    normal site: http://vilhelmjunnila.fi/
    hacked landingpage address : http://xxx.vilhelmjunnila.fi/nettikasinot


    normal site http://www.caferiga.fi/
    hacked landingpage address: http://xxx.caferiga.fi/nettikasinot


    normal site http://o-mapper.com/
    hacked landingpage address: http://xxx.o-mapper.com/wordpress/?p=nettikasinot

    and actually when you open the hacked page in google and if you click back to google it dont show actually real google search results. It shows this site address: http://potatoeaters.net/fi/google.html

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    source code shows
    xxx.spechin.com/?h=addpage&p=http://vilhelmjunnila.fi-nettikasinot&r=

    xxx.spechin.com
    104.31.66.203

    xxx.verifiedcasinos.com
    104.28.110.17

    both ip classes are at Cloudflare

    I also see the pages have forms up to capture email addresses. It wouldn't hurt if we could get the email address the form posts to.

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    I tried with one old email account what I am not using. I got the confirmation about subscription from this email address -> info@777bestcasinos.com

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    He is promoting Karamba for finnish people. Affiliatecode end in emailer is: afi=17251&ar=ENGMailer&mmi=34836

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    Allow me to share the latest update of criminal casinos also with a proof screen shot. I know that everyone, depending on his ip, might see different brands. However, I do my part by sharing the ones I see. If anybody is interested, I can supply urls and affilite IDs...

    And our rouge casinos from today are:

    Name:  2hqtljq.jpg
Views: 293
Size:  190.6 KB

    The Top 10 not trustworty casinos are:
    Spin Palace Casino (Buffalo)
    888Casino
    Ruby Fortune Casino (Buffalo)
    Exclusivebet (never saw this one before...)
    Jackpot City
    Casino.com
    LuckyNugget
    Osiris
    Paris Vegas (never saw this one before...)
    Titan Casino (I know that Europartners is not happy with this, but then they should do something about it and quickly)

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    Paris Vegas and Euro King are on this sites for a long time, but depends indeed on your IP.

    I see on almost every hacked site: AffPower, iAffiliates, 888, Buffalo, Europartners, RevenueJet and Winner. Two GPWA-sponsors..

    Is it an idea to have here an updated list ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jani2500 View Post
    He is promoting Karamba for finnish people. Affiliatecode end in emailer is: afi=17251&ar=ENGMailer&mmi=34836
    That's a new one for me. Do you have a link ?

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    i really don't want to spend time on this cause it seems futile , but been reading and it's just too much. I apologize in advance for speaking bluntly.

    1. There is NO such thing as an 100+ players a month, for a single program, unidentified affiliate account. Such thing doesn't exist. Ask some of the proactive managers here, like Rene or Martyn. How many times per year they suddenly have an affiliate that they never heard of show up and send 100 players per month. They will tell you - 0 to 1. It might happen to a new program but not to one that been on the market for years.

    2. If the accounts were really terminated - the hacker wouldn't open them again. Never. Why? Simple : if i was a hacker, unfortunately i don't know to do that stuff, and the company closes my account. I open another one under a different name and then it gets locked with $20,000 in it. How stupid I need to be to open a third one?

    The bottom part: The programs choose to work with the affiliate. If i was instead of them - I would probably too.

    Below bottom part: if you want something to change (i doubt it will, but still):

    1. If GPWA do want to take a stand on this and can suffer some losses for the cause: Sponsor programs should be taken of and banned. Simple as that. That's not easy since obviously we are talking about some substantial amounts for GPWA.

    2. If not, we can take a stand:

    a) not promote those programs
    b) not support a webmaster forum that promotes those program. (something that we all do by posting and keeping the community alive).

    Will it stop the hacker - no.
    Will it make some programs stop working with him and force him to work with lower/smaller/less competitive programs - yes.

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    Well, well, well...

    Just tried to "fetch" some hacker's websites with a "hand-made" spider.
    I can detect what kind of casinos are on those sites...

    Thinking... I could implement this spider into the algo of our site.
    Just to... AUTO-BLACKLIST participating casinos without doing anything (annoying) manually...

    And, just because I'm sick of this situation: I checked some queries on G... my site comes after 50+ (and in most cases 100+) "hacked results".

    Getting tired... this guy is stealing a lot of click from LEGIT sites. Sites owned by hard-working people.

    I don't want to spend a second more to this situation, no one want to take actions (I see...).
    I will just blacklist every casino I find on those sites (if them persists on those ****** sites for at least a week... just a little bit of democracy... )

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    It is way too late to stop these hackers.

    Sorry but they want YOU out (by stealing your content and using cloaked links pointing to your site) that's their goal.

    The programs involved will not stop working with the hackers unless they could get arrested for money laundering.

    Like I said do not waste your time on it anymore nobody can stop this bullet train unless the FBI, Interpol is interested enough to investigate this.

    The UK gambling commission, the LGA is all paid for expect nothing from them either.

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