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    Hey guys,
    this hacker is annoying me for over a year now in what we would call "niche markets". I cannot claim that I'm losing a lot of money thanks to him (at least I don't know how much) but this thread made me think again.

    We may have the resources to develop a scraper that is searching for all hacked sites using his footprints. We can sort out all existing and newly hacked sites maybe with contact info. Maybe there's a more efficient way but we can at least get in touch with webmasters and send them a report of all hacked directories.

    I can't afford this without compensation (especially ongoing costs for scraping and contacting). Would there be enough interest in donating (money or links) to get this done? If that's the case I'll talk this through with my developers.

    If these programs they are working with are unwilling to fix this, we should take action ourselves. And this would maybe make it even unprofitable to him as his sites are down before they can rank.

    Just an idea though.
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    I am always willing to join and chip in for any useful action against this kind of affiliate programs that pay people for doing things like this. Also this idea.

    But one thing:
    - most webmasters do not care. Most of them are webmasters that even don't update their themes and plugins, which makes them easy victims. A lot of them received a mail with this info and the problem is they don't understand it or don't take any action.

    I think your idea is good for localizing hacked sites, see which programs are advertising there and ask them to stop co÷perating with this black hat affiliates. Most of the programs are willing to do this, just some programs are unwilling or even heavily involved in this, like 888, Buffalo and Aff Power.

    I agree with you we should take action against them. I removed them from my websites and do not promote them at all. But I see around many people promoting them.

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    I totally agree with you. The question is: does he actually rank with sites that do not care? I mean, even some non profit organization can't afford to get hacked and showing gambling content. And any commercial affiliate has to care anyways. I also see a different between lazy affiliates that do not update plugins, themes etc. and ones that would not bother when somebody writes: "hey your site got hacked and 12047 casino pages were added. He gonna spam the **** out of it and you may never see visitors from Google again if you don't react". It's true. Not everybody will react to it.

    I personally think it's a rat race to threaten affiliate programs to stop working with them. Even if Buffalo and others would drop him or really fight him, he will find others to send players and earn his millions.

    Anyways, it's a very good sign that gambling affiliates actually care and want to do something. It's just a matter of doing the right thing against those people.

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    He does rank because of massive numbers and because targetting some niche markets. Although, I even saw some hacker ranking some time at the key word online casino. Just by adding links to thousands and thousands of pages, not adding pages. Many webmasters didn't even notice it. Some webmasters will react, some won't. Last year people did sent mails to a lot of webmasters and many of them didn't do in the end what every reasonable person should do. Than can be because of many things... lack of interest, lack of knowledge, lack of understanding the issue, etc.

    I think it is not easy for him to find affiliate programs working with him. In reality we just see a few programs appearing all the time on this websites. This are also programs that are known for threathing bad their players, have dozens of issues with players about non payments, late payments, (b)locked accounts, etc.

    Buffalo won't drop them, unless they have to for some reason, forced by some authority. They got all the top positions on all this websites, so somehow he's quite sure they pay him and not lock his account. It's going on for almost a year now or even more. Buffalo is somehow involved in this.

    I think he adds more sites than we can stop by mailing webmasters. In the time we convinced 5 webmasters to clean up their website, he added pages to thousands of other sites. I think we should focus on those 4 or 5 programs that are still working with him. They're paying him. Without their money, he won't do this as I guess it's not a hobby of him but a thing to make or wash money.

    Than we're at the point that we got some programs that after all still work with him. They know very well the issue, they know what happend with Revenue Jet and AffActive, but they still choose to work with him. It's not an issue of this hacker bothering them by opening new accounts or things like that. The issue is that these programs knowing and willing work with this people. We're talking about 888, AffPower and GPWA-sponsor Buffalo Partners. This are the most involved programs. On some sites you sometimes see appearing other programs like Euro King Affliates, Gwages or sometimes a temporal one that disappears fast after they closed their accounts.

    I'm always willing to join any initiative to stop this. But my question is, what can we do now? Buffalo is still accepted here as sponsor and many GPWA seal holders do promote casino's that are knowing and willing involved in this criminal activities.

    By the way, I appreciate very much affiliates wanting to do something about this. I'm just a bit pessimistic about what we can do.

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    Interesting read. Let's count on Google with this one.

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    Sounds great. Just a pity they waited so long with that. And I hope when these hacked websites are gone, people are smart enough to do work with AffPower, BuffaloHackers and 888.

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    "Casino review theme" and I see a shitload of hacked websites, full of ads of AffPower, 888 en Buffalo.

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    My guess is that US residents and non-us will see different results.

    At least some of the hacked page results are coming from xxhttp://online-casinos-top.com

    The two hacked sites I see on the first page of results are
    xxhttp://tenacreapps.com/casino-review-theme-wordpress/
    xxhttp://www.ongoing.nl/casino-review-wordpress-theme/

    Here are the affiliate links from the pages I see (first two are slotsvendor)
    Lincon casino
    xxhttp://www.lincolncasino.eu/?c=1247&s=95
    Liberty Casino
    xxhttp://www.libertyslots.eu/?c=1247&s=14

    Their deckmedia aff links
    xxhttp://deckaffiliates.com/return/plainclick/campaigns_id/225893/affiliate_id/604651/banner_id/295529
    xxhttp://deckaffiliates.com/return/plainclick/campaigns_id/225897/affiliate_id/604651/banner_id/293212
    xxhttp://deckaffiliates.com/return/plainclick/campaigns_id/225901/affiliate_id/604651/banner_id/295149
    xxhttp://deckaffiliates.com/return/plainclick/campaigns_id/225905/affiliate_id/604651/banner_id/293794
    xxhttp://deckaffiliates.com/return/plainclick/campaigns_id/225909/affiliate_id/604651/banner_id/293896

    I will reach out to Paul over at Deckmedia, but I do not have any contacts at SlotsVendor

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    Edited to add: By the way, hitting the home page of the .nl site gave me a trojan or virus warning from Avast, but the tenacreapps site did NOT.

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    I heard back from Paul at Deckmedia and the affiliate account in the above scenario has been closed.

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    I've contacted over 20 people who have had hacked sites giving them examples and even offering help if they need it fixing (this particular hacker was ranking better than me for some keywords)
    Didn't get a single reply or thanks for my effort :/

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    It makes no sense to contact webmasters: they don't understand, they don't care, their e-mailaddress isn't right, they deleter your mail because they think it's spam, etc.

    The problem also isn't those webmasters. In my opinion the problem is 888, AffPower and Buffalo paying this people!

    Here they now even outrank for example Flytonic. So imagine what will happen if they focus on your keywords.

    All thanks to BuffaloPartners.

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    I have contacted some webmasters in the past who have had hacked sites, but I did not do it for thanks.

    I disagree that webmasters do not care when their sites are hacked. Sure a small percentage don't but I think overall most care a great deal.

    Many are just at a loss as to how to handle it.

    I agree that being proactive with the affiliate groups helps the most currently, and if we could convince the larger groups to just plain stop working with these hackers once and for all it would have the greatest impact.

    Another factor that may help is if Googlle can in fact identify what is going on and take more steps to reduce it's impact in the SERPS it may have an effect also.

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    This hacker ******** is using also my contect.. my website is www.casinomaisteri.com I see some google results with my content and when I click it opens this hacker site..

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    I agree with that. A small part doesn't care a bigger part do not know what yo do and also a big part, they do not reply because they were thinking the mail is spam, or it arrived in their spam box, they have another e-mailaddress now, etc.

    In my eyes: the keys are the affiliate programs and indeed, Google. Mailing webmasters in my eyes is a great thing for those that didn't know this and care, but for the bigger picture it's to me like emptying a ocean with a tea spoon. What would help perhaps, if a lot of webmasters go to policy and denounce these people and the people who pay it. If authorities in the UK, Gibraltar and Malta will have a bunch of police reports against the people who pay them, they gotta do something.

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    You better have the better backlinks or a brand otherwise your hard work is now duplicate - worthless - content and Google will punish your site not the hacked domains.

    Those who think otherwise will soon find out.

    Google can not flag the legit hacked sites, they have never been able to do this as cloacked pages still work in 2015.

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    True. Shitloads of copied content appears on hacked websites. Goal seem to be quite clear. They want competition out, except some competitors that they cannot beat because they've built a brand or are too strong to beat with backlinks.

    Many people will feel this in their wallets. Also many online casino's will feel this, because legit sites promoted on legit sites will lose ground to scammers promoted on blackhat sites.

    And again, this is all made possible by 888, Buffalo and some smaller, dodgy programs. And this week @ BAC 888 and Buffalo will be there smiling, trying to convince you to work with their brands. Keep in mind. they're the one that are destroying our businesses and their employees know this. Ofcourse they will act like they see water burning if you ask them about it or they will try to convince you that just yesterday evening, they blocked the accounts of these people. Same **** als they always tell at conferences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triple7 View Post
    True. Shitloads of copied content appears on hacked websites. Goal seem to be quite clear. They want competition out, except some competitors that they cannot beat because they've built a brand or are too strong to beat with backlinks.
    They (it is a group of criminals I assume) want everyone out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GCG View Post
    They (it is a group of criminals I assume) want everyone out.
    True, but a small group of built brands they will not get out by them. They'll feel it, but a strong brand is strong enough to survive. Unfortunately, 99,9% of all is for sure hard work, but not a brand.

    To be honest, I am really pissed off, but I realize there's not much I can do alone about this... Also what is driving me up the wall is that one of the biggest financers of this group, is still sponsor here, is still accepted at conference floors, etc.

    They should be outcasts. If you screw up other people's hard work like this, in every business you will be out. Except some scammers, nobody would like to work with you, you won't be accepted at the conference floor anymore, you won't be accepted as sponsor anymore, you won't have licenses anymore, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackTenSuited View Post
    I've contacted over 20 people who have had hacked sites giving them examples and even offering help if they need it fixing (this particular hacker was ranking better than me for some keywords)
    Didn't get a single reply or thanks for my effort :/
    I normally tell them what to check for to fix the hack, free tools to use and referring them to google webmaster forums for more details.
    Even if they do not respond it has been effective more times than not in them fixing their sites. So do contact but in most cases they fix site.

    Keep reporting them to google in feedback.. Eventually google will get tired of the complaints.

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