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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman View Post
    Antihacker,

    First of all, I'd like to be absolutely clear that I appreciate very much your digging deeply to understand what was going on, and to publish your findings here, and working to stamp out this unethical behavior. None of this is easy work. I understand that very well.

    And you are correct, there are some affiliate programs that won't care much. But there are many that will, as you have seen some initial signs that is the case.

    The best approach, in my opinion, is one that starts with the assumption that the affiliate program representatives will act in a way that affiliates appreciate, either because they view it is morally correct, or because they perceive that it will benefit them or their program if they take that position even if they don't actually care about the ethics that much. And an approach that, in that context, allows an affiliate program and its affiliate program representatives to shine if they take action against the unethical affiliate.

    Some programs will act very quickly, others will take longer just because the process can take time with work schedules and other conflicts even when their head is in the right place. Many will take some cajoling, and often when that is required it is most effective when done in the background by the right folks with the right arguments. Sometimes threats will work and result in quicker action, but it is also not uncommon for threats to result in a communications breakdown that hurts forward progress.

    I urge you not to give up, which is a primary reason I am making this post. But I also encourage patience, and a recognition of the importance of working together with other affiliates, even though it is not always easy in the heat of the moment, to get to a better place.

    One final word: You and Leopold (Roulette Zeitung) should be strong allies supporting each other here. Find a way to put the disagreements you have expressed here in the past. Together you will be a force for any program that stands in your collective way to fear. And I, for one, want to see you working together. Figure out how to make that happen for the sake of all affiliates.

    Michael
    so as a crusader of justice are you going to bother either A, replying to my private message about Stan James or B, actually reply to the thread about them like you said?????

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    Look at the clock. It's too late for Sunday evening resentments. Wait for the sunrise.
    By the way: The single "No" vote ... I hope, it happened accidentally!

    Leopold

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    As Miss Becker from Europartners promised on the first (!) day it was brought to her attention:

    Based on my latest information a few minutes ago by eye check Europa Casino is no longer on the list.

    There is a simple to find evidence, that the casino was indeed removed:

    ===> http://tinyurl.com/m7kfgga

    You see the casino in the snippets but no longer on the screen if you click on the links.

    Or simply check my victims list:

    List of victims I: http://tinyurl.com/pxdoo6e
    List of victims II: http://tinyurl.com/ov8429s
    List of victiims III: http://tinyurl.com/pdqrjdf
    List of victims: IV: http://tinyurl.com/nuhquko

    It looks like, that more Casinos are removed (e.g. Mega Casino from Prime Partners on the hacked sites. Mega Casino -if I remember correctly- was at the beginning not on the list and later used as a substitute. It's still visible on verifiedcasinos.com/roulette, but have obviously no longer influence on the hacked sites).

    I have had only 10 minutes to check all of this.

    Patience pays off.

    Leopold
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    I just made a search on major SEs ("online casinos","online casino usa","online casino bonuses"... etc...).

    I feel... disgusted.
    This scumbag, when a aff program ban him (Europartners, i.e.), just change casinos in his portfolio.
    We need to do something, imho... this piece of sh*t is outranking (on SEs) all major brands in our affiliate industry.
    This is disgusting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiocch View Post
    I feel... disgusted.
    This scumbag, when a aff program ban him (Europartners, i.e.), just change casinos in his portfolio.
    We need to do something
    It can be a accelerating domino effect.

    Why?

    a) There are not unlimited sponsors in the industry.

    b) The pressure on new sponsors, who operate as replacement is rising rapidly, because sponsor XI can be confronted in communication by the fact, that 6 sponsors [PROGRAM NAMES] have banned the criminal before him, sponsor XII confronted with 7 sponsors ... XIII 8 sponsors ...

    A lack of explanations is the result, if the banners will not be removed and as I pointed out in the AffPower case (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affpower-...tml#post766424) latest within 5 weeks of becoming aware of the crime every program is a proven accomplice if the banner are still online.

    Leopold

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    The hacked pages are loading an iframe. The hacker is using yoosocial.com as source for the hacking.

    Yoosocial.com is root of all evil.

    Over this footboard other (infected) pages will be used and in the last stage the content of verifiedcasinos.com.

    Example source code of victim's website:

    Code:
    <iframe width="100%" height="100%" frameborder="0" src="http://yoosocial.com/?h=addpage&p=infoexgraphics.com-online-casinos&r=" />
    Hacked sites in this example: http://tinyurl.com/lou2sxy
    Victim: infoexgraphics.com

    The real content of yoosocial.com: http://tinyurl.com/pzwupeq

    So, if yoosocial.com does no longer exist, then this would be very great.

    Leopold
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post
    The hacker is using yoosocial.com as source for the hacking. Yoosocial.com is root of all evil.
    With the same IP address (212.7.217.104) his other websites are located, the content of the infecting casino top lists will be spreaded. It's (no surprise) verifiedcasinos.com and in reserve 777bestcasinos.com and online77casino.com.



    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung
    So, if yoosocial.com does no longer exist, then this would be very great.
    The hoster is dediserv.eu from Poland, and president of this company (Dediserv Dedicated Servers Sp.z o.o) is Dino Strzeminski.

    On webhostingtalk.com, one of the most famous forum for hosting issues, Strzeminski's username is dinek.



    Writing on webhostingtalk.com can bring big public pressure with e.g. a "Dediserv: Hackers welcome?" title of a thread if issues, that were sent directly to the hoster, are ignored.

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    Have you verified through the host that the other sites are owned or operated by the same person, to be sure that the ip is not shared between more than one webmaster?

    Rick
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    Edited to add, performing whois lookups on all 3 domains show that 2 are registered at dynadot and one is at enom. All 3 use privacy from their respective registrars.

    Browsing the sites directly appears to back up Leopold's theory that the other sites could be in waiting to be used in the same scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Have you verified through the host that the other sites are owned or operated by the same person, to be sure that the ip is not shared between more than one webmaster?

    Rick
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    Hi Rick, you have seen my statement above I take it as you have replied to the thread???

    I'll leave it with you in bringing the comment (plus 2 PM requests) to the powers that be

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Have you verified through the host that the other sites are owned or operated by the same person, to be sure that the ip is not shared between more than one webmaster?

    Rick
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    Edited to add, performing whois lookups on all 3 domains show that 2 are registered at dynadot and one is at enom. All 3 use privacy from their respective registrars.

    Browsing the sites directly appears to back up Leopold's theory that the other sites could be in waiting to be used in the same scam.
    This person conducts criminal activities and programs should ban him, some say we want to investigate it, others say it is only PPC traffic............

    Everyone who has a habit to down play this issue does not understand the implications and basics of marketing ethics.

    I will tell you if others copy his strategy, SEO is that last thing you will have to worry about.

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    I agree that it is an issue that has serious consequences, and not sure who is downplaying the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I agree that it is an issue that has serious consequences, and not sure who is downplaying the issue.

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    If that is aimed at me, I have bumped many times the Stan James issue, also PM'd requests to the big wigs here to be ignored. So as part of the admin/securityt whatever your job is here and have read this can you bring it up with GPWA and get an answer.

    sorry to highjack a thread but 4 months is taking the **** to get an answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    I agree that it is an issue that has serious consequences, and not sure who is downplaying the issue.

    Rick
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    Fernanda from AffPower downplayed the issue is what GCG is referring to.

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    This thread is not about Stan James.

    I also would like to see an answer to that thread, but hijacking this thread will not help. Please let's try and keep this thread focused on the subject.

    downplaying the issue?

    Although I do feel it would have been nicer to see all programs a bit more responsive to the issue, sometimes issues will bring out the best in programs and sometimes it reveals possible flaws.

    I am not sure attempting to get the hackers host involved will help or not, but it might not hurt to make them aware at least. The main problem there will be that unless the host has verifiable proof that the hacking activity itself is coming from their ip space I would think they would not really to be able to do anything about it.

    I do agree that the traffic sent for the click-throughs are using that ip space, (and thus a possible technical breach of contract) the site owner can hide behind the (I didn't do it and can't be held responsible for external things out of my control)

    I wonder what course of action would have the most impact? (besides the closing of affiliate accounts)

    Maybe we could submit a few hundred google spam reports? if 15 or 20 of us filed a weekly report, after a while the spam team might take the time to look close enough at the situation they could try and figure out a way to stop any future such actions by scumbag hackers being much less effective.

    It might just be our best shot at devaluing the pages being shown on the hacked sites (or the domain hosting them)??

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Maybe we could submit a few hundred google spam reports? if 15 or 20 of us filed a weekly report, after a while the spam team might take the time to look close enough at the situation they could try and figure out a way to stop any future such actions by scumbag hackers being much less effective.
    Great suggestion. Any time I come across something in the SERPS that I feel is garbage or doesn't belong, I "send feedback" (link at bottom that says "send feedback") to Google. It isn't difficult or time consuming and who knows if it really works, but I use that religiously when searching for anything (industry related or not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Have you verified through the host that the other sites are owned or operated by the same person, to be sure that the ip is not shared between more than one webmaster?


    I don't really understand why no other statements will be done by official GPWA staff, because we are talking about organized crime! Your question is easy to answer, and I have stopped it with my watch: I takes 3 minutes and 4 seconds for me. No one need to contact someone. The evidence is right under the nose!

    First of all: Content from all start pages of verifiedcasinos.com, 777bestcasinos.com and online77casino.com are identical.

    But if this is not enough for you: No problem! The source code of all 3 sites is the evidence. Again: I takes less than 5 minutes to check it, and sometimes I really can understand e.g. thebookiesoffers anger.

    Here is the evidence, that -what I have written is right: All three domains are the same criminal orgin!

    Verifiedcasinos.com

    Code:
    this.href='http://affiliates.affpower.com/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_2223b_597&aid=';"><img src='/images/cosmik_new_468x60.gif' border='0' alt='' /></a>
    777bestcasinos.com

    Code:
    this.href='http://affiliates.affpower.com/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_2223b_597&aid=';"><img src='/images/cosmik_new_468x60.gif' border='0' alt='' /></a>
    online77casino.com

    Code:
    this.href='http://affiliates.affpower.com/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_2223b_597&aid=';"><img src='/images/cosmik_new_468x60.gif' border='0' alt='' /></a>
    Any question?

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4
    Leopold's theory that the other sites could be in waiting to be used in the same scam.
    It's not a theory. As everyone can see with the source code snippets and the identical affiliate links: It's a fact, and it doesn't matter if this criminal individual act alone or in a group.

    My both posts, I have written yesterday and on Tuesday in this thread show exactly, that yoosocial.com is root of evil and the "Poland-Scenario" is a very good change to stop this crime.

    Perhaps -as official GPWA staff- it's time to say something about the AffPower case (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affpower-please-ban-your-affiliate-verifiedcasinos-com-serious-hacking-proof-219127/p2.html#post766563)? The criminal link is still online!

    ---

    Instead of wasting my time with this post only to explain what can be explained by every person himself within 5 minutes, it would be better to find more facts and more ways to help, but my time limit for this case is reached for today ... wasted.

    Leopold
    Last edited by Roulette Zeitung; 11 September 2014 at 5:44 am.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fernanda - AFFPOWER View Post
    Ok guys so here are a couple of things I've been doing in addition to trying to get rid of an unsustained complaint.

    We've contacted the mentioned affiliate as well as Anthony and The Pogg who contacted us on a first place. We are investigating the issue and so far we found that we are only receiving PPC traffic from this affiliate.

    Our http referrals show that the only traffic that arrived to our sites is coming from verifiedcasinos and exclusively from PPC activity since the PPC reports match our own Income Access reports.

    In addition to this, I can say that the affiliate was more than helpful when contacted.

    I've also contacted some other affiliate managers regarding this to know what actions were taken if any. Many of these people are personal friends and ex co-workers so I assume we speak freely around this matter.

    We will continue to investigate the issue and any new update should be posted by me on this thread.
    According to Fernanda, she claims there's nothing criminal about the traffic coming from that particular affiliate. Leopold's post clearly shows different to Fernanda's story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    According to Fernanda, she claims there's nothing criminal about the traffic coming from that particular affiliate. Leopold's post clearly shows different to Fernanda's story.
    It's normal that the traffic come from verifi*dcasinos dot com... this scumbag uses an iframe to hack other sites.
    Hacked sites are only used as hosts to injiect scam pages.

    Shay, where is located this post from Fernanda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiocch View Post
    It's normal that the traffic come from verifi*dcasinos dot com... this scumbag uses an iframe to hack other sites.
    Hacked sites are only used as hosts to injiect scam pages.

    Shay, where is located this post from Fernanda?
    The post is located right here.

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    Thatís the last straw!



    Dear GPWA staff,

    you can give me a penalization for this post if you want. I will endure my fate with dignity, because I am a part of rise of the decent as many other GPWA members, and I am crystal clear about my opinion, that the (anonymous) GPWA member, who have given in the last 24 hours the 2nd "NO" vote to the poll question "Do you think this hacker should be banner forever?" , has lost his marbles and enduring power of attorney authorising one or more people to manage his affairs in the event of losing mental capacity would be the best for all parties concerned.

    Hello?!
    Wake up!




    We are talking about serious crime and not about a funny happening in a fairground boxing booth.

    If I am wrong and insulted unlawful a honest GPWA member, who expressed us with his vote the real sense of law and justice, then please give me the name of the member, because it's impossible to insult a "ghost".

    Thank you for your attention.

    Leopold

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