Videoslots breakdown calculation

This has been an issue for many years and I still have not been able to get a proper answer from any of the affiliate managers I have had over the past years so I will try here instead:

If the GGR for a day is positive (player has lost more than they won) the calculation for NGR is (correct med if I am wrong):
GGR - Jackpot Deductions - Tax - Bank Fees - Game Provider Fee - Admin Fees - Bonuses - Paid Loyalty = NGR

However, if the GGR is negative some of the above variables automatically gets negative such as Bank Fees, Game Provider Fee, Admin Fees in the backend. When applying these numbers to the above equation, the numbers don't add up at all. How can a Game provider fee become negative? How can a Bank fee become negative?

Do affiliates still pay bank fees if the GGR is negative?
Do affiliates still pay Game Provider Fees if the GGR is negative?
Do affiliates still pay 25% admin fees if the GGR is negative?

Thanks!

I think people are making 4-7% real comms with these guys

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Originally Posted by wonderpunter

I think people are making 4-7% real comms with these guys

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Something like that,, yes. They seem to deduct every penny they've spent, before sharing. That's not fair, because my costs are not considered.

555-> Thats the big question. And if you calculate that the netgaming is only about 3% of the turnover, a wrong calculation of the fees in case a player wins, can reduce the NGR to 0 and you earn only because of a possible no negative carryover rule.

I think a few affiliate programs are aware of that.

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Originally Posted by wonderpunter

I think people are making 4-7% real comms with these guys

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I wonder which other programs are also paying 4-7% in comms. hmmmmm...

Video Slots is great for players but worse than crapola for affiliates. They hammer their affiliates for every cost (that probably also includes) convention fees/booths, entertainment, travel expenses, everything and anything it takes to run and operate Video Slots Ltd (ex Panda Media).

Ironically without their affiliates, VS wouldn't have all these players, nor be one of the largest casinos online today.