Warning - Affactive refuses to pay big winner

**-Shay-** · 15 June 2015, 6:18 am

Originally Posted by cass

This happened to us in the past as well where we slated a program that treated its affiliates and players bad. The question is how far can this program really stoop?

I've been following this thread for quite some time now and what concerns me amidst all the complaints against Affactive it's still a silver sponsor here.

Money is more important than integrity.

**slotplayer** · 15 June 2015, 10:37 am

I was finally getting around to swapping out the last few casino games and decided to click the call to action nag screen once the game timed out and noticed the cookie writes aff-ID 10002. I saw that somewhere before then it all came back to me. that's a default ID.

https://www.gpwa.org/forum/dl-link-s...ighlight=10002

one note I could never attach images to GPWA posts so would use a sub directory on my site instead, but have since removed the image.

http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/com...r-aff-id.6617/

**Puma** · 17 June 2015, 9:02 pm

They are really a silver sponsor here? Well that is just a shot in the back for affiliates and players is it not?

**slotplayer** · 17 June 2015, 10:31 pm

Originally Posted by Muppet

A word of advice learned from experience for those of you that don't condone their behaviour and mention this thread in your responses to them: keep an eye out for link bombs and negative SEO attacks against your sites.

I'm wondering if they do this to aff. sites that promote their competitors as well?

**Anthony** · 18 June 2015, 7:59 am

I am communicating with Affactive about this player and should have an update shortly.

**slotplayer** · 18 June 2015, 1:23 pm

no more games huh

**Triple7** · 18 June 2015, 1:34 pm

Originally Posted by Anthony

I am communicating with Affactive about this player and should have an update shortly.

They've got quite a history, isn't it? It's not just this player. Are thousands of "this players"....

**slotplayer** · 18 June 2015, 5:41 pm

its everything they do, from their casinos appearing on a ton of hacked sites, to chargebacks, to free games with an embedded default tracker, to player runarounds on withdrawals, to holding player winnings hostage for more deposits, to the accusations that they deliberately try and tank affiliate sites that bad mouth them.

**Anthony** · 22 June 2015, 11:33 am

Affactive has informed me this player has been paid in full.

(I am off for AAC, will be back in office 29 June, if any issues come up please email me anthony (at) gpwa(.)org)

**-Shay-** · 22 June 2015, 1:06 pm

Originally Posted by Anthony

Affactive has informed me this player has been paid in full.

(I am off for AAC, will be back in office 29 June, if any issues come up please email me anthony (at) gpwa(.)org)

Has this been confirmed by the player? If so, how much was lost on the "play more or quit getting paid" policy?

**Triple7** · 22 June 2015, 1:56 pm

Originally Posted by slotplayer

its everything they do, from their casinos appearing on a ton of hacked sites, to chargebacks, to free games with an embedded default tracker, to player runarounds on withdrawals, to holding player winnings hostage for more deposits, to the accusations that they deliberately try and tank affiliate sites that bad mouth them.

Yep. Quite sad they're still able to be "Silver Sponsor" here.

**slotplayer** · 22 June 2015, 11:52 pm

Your reputation is everything in business, GPWA could be destroying theirs.

**Muppet** · 1 July 2015, 11:26 pm

I am still waiting to hear from the player to verify this. Last she told me they had approved another $1000 to be withdrawn, which would put the total at around $4000 out of $6500, assuming they actually paid it (after the last email she received who knows). I remain skeptical that she has been paid in full.

**Muppet** · 2 July 2015, 6:04 pm

Update: she has received the most recent $1000 withdrawal but is still owed $1507 in total. So no, she has not been paid in full.

Naturally for these guys she cannot withdraw everything at once and has to keep going back there and make a new request every time the last one comes through. And if she requests too much (which could be anything) they reject the withdrawal. So I guess they would argue that she has been paid everything she has withdrawn but that ignores the obvious point that if they didn't make it so difficult, and didn't try so many underhanded things to try to prevent her withdrawing, she could have had her money the best part of a year ago.

And pre-empting any attempts by gpwa to continue ignoring the issue or to cast these casinos in a good light when or if this player is paid, perhaps they can move on to paying this guy that I mentioned months ago too:
http://www.askgamblers.com/casino-co...une-not-paying

**JackTenSuited** · 2 July 2015, 6:27 pm

Originally Posted by Muppet

And pre-empting any attempts by gpwa to continue ignoring the issue or to cast these casinos in a good light when or if this player is paid, perhaps they can move on to paying this guy that I mentioned months ago too:
http://www.askgamblers.com/casino-co...une-not-paying

That complaint was hard reading! declining a withdrawal because the current user is inactive after months of stalling is outrageous.

Says a lot for GPWA that they remain silver sponsors here.....

**-Shay-** · 2 July 2015, 9:12 pm

Originally Posted by Anthony

Affactive has informed me this player has been paid in full.

(I am off for AAC, will be back in office 29 June, if any issues come up please email me anthony (at) gpwa(.)org)

So much for taking GPWA sponsors at their word.

Although they do say "you are the company that you keep"...

**Triple7** · 3 July 2015, 2:48 pm

Originally Posted by -Shay-

So much for taking GPWA sponsors at their word.

Although they do say "you are the company that you keep"...

We've seen what some words were worth. Buffalo Partners & the hacking issue, Winner & 4 pages of topics with all kind of issues, etc.

**-Shay-** · 3 July 2015, 3:02 pm

Originally Posted by Triple7

We've seen what some words were worth. Buffalo Partners & the hacking issue, Winner & 4 pages of topics with all kind of issues, etc.

Sadly, a GPWA rep posted their word as fact.

**Muppet** · 23 July 2015, 6:42 pm

Luckily the player told me that she was paid another $1000 before the **** hit the fan and the criminals running the company were arrested this week.

In light of the fact that both Affactive and Revenue Jet casinos have shut down at the same time, I'd just like to quote their former employee's statement about the relationship between the 2 programs when I and others raised it earlier:

Originally Posted by clarar

Our companies are not related and I will kindly ask you to not bring any other issues related to other companies to our section. First, because is not related to Affactive and second because I'm unable to help you.

So now we've confirmed that was a lie, we've confirmed that they were lying about having paid the player at the root of this dispute, and we've confirmed that the owners are criminals.

I'd encourage the GPWA to be more discerning in its choice of sponsors that it endorses on this site. This thread has been going on for almost a year, you've had numerous other complaints, and finally you suspend their sponsorship when the owners are arrested and the business is shut down because you have no hope of getting them to pay any more. Great timing guys.

**mojo** · 23 July 2015, 7:56 pm

Originally Posted by Muppet

I'd encourage the GPWA to be more discerning in its choice of sponsors that it endorses on this site. This thread has been going on for almost a year, you've had numerous other complaints, and finally you suspend their sponsorship when the owners are arrested and the business is shut down because you have no hope of getting them to pay any more. Great timing guys.

At Casinomeister for something like this the onus is on the affiliate and player for not doing their research. To take all the anger out on GPWA is short sighted. We need to also blame ourselves.

The GPWA is NOT a place to find authority. We've begged Mr C over and over again to re-do their sponsorship criteria to no avail.

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