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    Hi ,

    First id like to say i think your site is great and saves People money though fraud casinos and company’s.

    The reason im posting this is because i would like to post a warning on this site if i may.

    betherdealer and the company known as casipoia (betherdealer) is on he verge of bankruptcy.

    They are not paying, players, affiliates and even employees .

    Here are all the brands (white labels associated with them)

    Betherdealer (mother brand)

    Bethecasino

    Win as dealer

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    play&deal

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    Rijks Casino

    Alpine Gold Casino

    Casino Pohjola

    SlotsAndRoll Casino

    County Casino

    I feel we should warn the online gambling community and affiliates of this company & brands to save them money because if they deposit in any of the brands listed above they will never be paid any winnings or affiliates payments.

    send me a private message for the contact details of the management of the company.

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    First of all, it's more than just a little ironic that this is your very first post here at the gpwa....and then when you create a new account TODAY, and use a username such as the one you did it's like a slap in the face to those of use that have been around for longer periods of time and some of us have been here for YEARS!

    Do you actually have any proof that the company is on the verge of bankruptcy?

    There are likely a number of affiliates here that mioght agree with you that bethedealer is not a good group to go with, but I really see nothing in your post that is anything more than an opinion.

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    Be Ther Dealer?

    http://www.bethedealer.com/

    "Temporary server maintenance is currently underway. Please check back soon."

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    Few links seem to be working.

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    I do have proof but im not at liberty to say at this moment in time, im just informing the gaming community of this, it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to see the company is having serious problems.

    first of all, there is a huge list of players and affiliates that have been waiting many many months for cash and have yet to see anything,

    second feel free to google the company’s reputations, nothing but bad reviews by some very high ranking sites which include casino meister.

    thirdly , the live chat is no longer 24 hours and the betherdealer site is out of service, this is due to staff shortages which is due to none payment of salary’s.

    and finally the ultimate test, please feel free to make a deposit, or even affiliate with them, i can promise you that you will never see any winnings or payments.

    so i do not need to prove anything you can test this yourself.

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    Unfortunately I believe the poster. Be the dealer has had a long and sordid history. A few years back I met with their management team and they assured me they had turned the corner and were rehabilitating the brand. Well... It's fair to say they strayed back to their old ways if they ever really changed at all.

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    None of that changes the fact that the poster came here and in their very first post made quite a bold statement about a bankruptcy with no proof and when pressed about proof claims he has proof but will not release proof and clearly the statements are confecture and speculations!!!

    Whether I believe the poster, or whether I agree with the speculations the poster is making is NOT THE POINT!.

    Making bold statements such as the above that a company is in fact moments away from bankruptcy, and stating it as if it were fact, with NO PROOF to back that claim is just wrong!

    Bytheway, I have been nearly crucified many times before demanding of said proof, but I will always ask to see proof, and I would do the same whether I believe the claim or not.

    Anything less is just speculation.

    The forum is full of speculation and opinions, and that is not always a bad thing, but it's usually pretty clear when they are opinions.

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    He's been cutting & pasting this message round and about - spare ling miss stakes in clue did:

    http://www.latestcasinobonuses.com/o...er-and-brands/

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    Me thinks the OP is an unhappy ex-employee.
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    I also have my concerns with BTD and I thank you for your warning but I also understand that with that username, such a negative one, you may only be here to report this news and not become a member of the community.

    I too am a new member but I would prefer to use the site to share information on an ongoing basis aswell as possible network, sharing information positive and negative on a long-term basis being the primary reason for my account.

    Information is taken onbaord and thank you, I hope you have more to offer this community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thepokerkeep View Post
    Me thinks the OP is an unhappy ex-employee.
    You're probably right.

    I happen to be pretty good friends with someone that worked there for quite awhile up until just not that long ago.. when they had to leave because they couldn't afford to work for free anymore. Though they had been paid fine and treated well up until recently, suddenly they weren't paid for several months.

    I agree that the op came off quite strong for their first post, too strong. Especially making a user name like that. But his story is likely to have truth to it.

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    I agree with thePokerKeep and Daera. I have known a number of their employees who were less than happy. Moshe is an interesting fellow and I personally like him, but I wouldnt work with or for him.

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    Hi all,

    Professor your ''quote'' about Moshe is so funny!!

    Don't think I agree with it. but not working for them sounds about right...

    People should look into this one vegascasino21

    Poseidon ...
    like in RichClubCasino ...
    like that going back to BTD

    strange no salaries are paid - no money but he got a new casino? I bet that players won't be paid.

    This story keeps coming back as a boomerang...

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    ik heb jou profiel bekekn en zie dat je ies doet met cv on net klopt dat? heb jij wellicht telefoonnummrs of contactgegevens van hun zodat ik met hun in contact kan komen?

    heb nog aardig wat geld van ze tegoed!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicon View Post
    Hi all,

    Professor your ''quote'' about Moshe is so funny!!

    Don't think I agree with it. but not working for them sounds about right...

    People should look into this one vegascasino21

    Poseidon ...
    like in RichClubCasino ...
    like that going back to BTD

    strange no salaries are paid - no money but he got a new casino? I bet that players won't be paid.

    This story keeps coming back as a boomerang...

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    Goedemorgen,

    Ik heb een tijdje geprobeerd om hun te adviseren en veranderingen door te voeren. Helaas was dat verloren tijd.

    Het laatste nieuws is dat Mr. Moshe niet meer in Cyprus verschijnt en er geen personeel meer op kantoor is.

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    Many times webmasters actualy join the forums because they have been badly hurt. The dude is ok.

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    I agree a lot of the employees have not spoken out for a long time. But a lot of them got in big trouble as it now is over a year that their salaries have been paid.

    And it has to be said that they have been told there is nothing they can do about it.

    It keeps happening again and again...

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    I'm confused - What were teh two posts talking about above that wern't in English.

    I would like to say now that we were never paid for the Be The Dealer activity from a few years ago - I chased and chased and in another thread mentioned it and was told if I "took the comment back" we would be paid....At the end it was all rubbish and we are still owed money....I gave up chasing it last year. I would steer clear of anything they are involved in!
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    Quote Originally Posted by alexpratt View Post
    I'm confused - What were teh two posts talking about above that wern't in English.

    I would like to say now that we were never paid for the Be The Dealer activity from a few years ago - I chased and chased and in another thread mentioned it and was told if I "took the comment back" we would be paid....At the end it was all rubbish and we are still owed money....I gave up chasing it last year. I would steer clear of anything they are involved in!
    Thanks for sharing Alex!! When someone rips you off Alex - they have to be the most stupidest program on earth!! That is insane!


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