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    Hello,

    Don't have it now but we are thinking about it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julia Roniv View Post
    1. Activity Quota is good anti scam tool. We are trying to avoid fraud afiliates who bring 1 player to get cash back. Due to our experiance its not problem for affiliate to have 5 active players if he ptomotes us, uses our exclusive promotions. Also, it does not mean, that the account has to deliver 5 customers each 3 months, but only during the 1st 3 months.
    I do see why some programs may want to put something like this in to stop someone referring themselves or their friends and doing some kind of cashback, but you could make it much more affiliate friendly by removing the three month requirement - ie: five customers before you get paid, no time restriction.

    The problem with setting a clock is that it takes a while for new affiliates to get going and if they're just starting out it may take six months before you see a sign up. Doesn't mean they're out to scam you though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldidiot View Post
    I do see why some programs may want to put something like this in to stop someone referring themselves or their friends and doing some kind of cashback, but you could make it much more affiliate friendly by removing the three month requirement - ie: five customers before you get paid, no time restriction.

    The problem with setting a clock is that it takes a while for new affiliates to get going and if they're just starting out it may take six months before you see a sign up. Doesn't mean they're out to scam you though.
    I bet the scammy cashbacks don't come to nearly the amount of money not earned by potential affiliates that are put off by this term... I wouldn't sign up for it unless.. they were are large bookie with proven conversions and a great product.. then I could clear it in a day.. many times I have seen 4 clients deposit 5 figures between them.. it's a little unfair that free bet billy with 5 deposits of $25 gets paid for that month and i have to wait praying that they don't shave or tracking goes down and their product is as good as the premium books i use..

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    Welcome guys!! Congratulations and have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    Please give a warm welcome to LSBet Affiliates! [...] as a Platinum sponsor!

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    Highlights
    • Activity Quota: Yes, LSBet Affiliates are required to refer a minimum of 5 active customer accounts within 3 (three) months of their acceptance in the affiliate program. If an affiliate does not reach the required level, LSBet Affiliates reserves the right to close the affiliate account. Affiliates are entitled to applying for a new account on a later stage. Monthly revenue share payments will be held until the affiliate reaches the required activity level.
    What happened in the last 3 months?
    This industry was on the right way. New sponsors refused to use prehistoric terms with quotas or other disrespectful mischief.

    And now?

    I checked the last 4 new sponsors now (Scroll through this forum area).

    -One sponsor is using invisible terms but new webmasters must accept the "ghost conditions"
    -The next sponsor is using quota terms but wanted to negotiate them [behind the scene?] After one sponsor month in love, peace and harmony only because of the public pressure of two persons they amend the fault and terminated the ugly quota terms today.
    -The next sponsor is a comebacker but the silent resonance of the audience gives me a feeling of being in a dark room.

    And here is the next sponsor. Platinum!
    It's my opinion, that latest a Platinum Sponsor must act like a Platinum Sponsor and not like a Wood Sponsor.

    Blackmailing webmasters, that their account will be closed with the possibility that the webmaster will lose all the lifetime revenue share of the remaining 4 new customers after 3 months, this is a not only a prehistoric term. Yes, "closing terms" in combination with quotas, this is psychic blackmailing for me if I look with the eyes of a small webmaster. Or is there anybody who believes, terms like that makes small webmasters happy, that they will dance on the table and buy some champaign to celebrate the new business cooperation?

    Sorry, but terms like "Monthly revenue share payments will be held until the affiliate reaches the required activity level." are crystal clear. It's a business cooperation based on pressure from the very first day for small webmasters. They have to fear for their money all the time, if they are "not good enough", if they lose Google position or the hoster, because one bad months of 3 can be the end for a small webmaster with terms like that. This will affect moods and spirits, even during vacations. Think about it.

    If you want to be a role model in this industry, then delete these terms like other GPWA sponsors do.
    A new GPWA Sponsor don't need terms. It's bad for the reputation, bad for the mood and at least bad for the whole industry.

    You can't expect to make happy conferences but in reality webmasters are only a toy to make money?
    This is a question for the whole industry and one reason why I never visited any conference because I have seen too much.

    After 3 months I am really a little bit shocked, that the good way comes back to prehistoric terms or under construction programs.

    Anyway, I wish you a nice weekend. Again: You can be a role model, but this is not my decision.

    Leopold

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    The problem is that any kind of quota (based on the pretense of eliminating scammers) is futile at best and just hurts small affiliates.

    Any affiliate that plans on utilizing scams or other forms of commission generation that is less than honorable will find a simple way past the quota (such as needing 5 players to get paid) while at the same time the small affiliate that is working their ass off only to generate a measly 2 players the first 6 or 8 or 10 months sits there wondering if they will EVER get paid....

    Any terms with a quota will end up providing a reward to those who scam their way past the quota and the honest little guy has no choice but to promote groups without the quota.

    And any terms that have a quota that when not met gets their account closed is about the worst term a program can have, and any affiliate that joins such a program is taking on a very large risk.

    I have personally been lobbying against quotas for more than 10 years now and it is only in the last few years that many of the mid size and larger affiliates have come to realize how risky quotas in terms have become.

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    The only positive thing on such a term is, that it's written there. In fact they give you a paper with the text "we're going to try to steal from you" on it. So, than I know it before I start working with them. Some programs do not mention this sort of terms, but practise that.

    Anyway, I agree with the above posts here about these terms and I see no reason for me to work with LSBet. Their casino seem to be quite average, their affiliate program got terms I don't like and it also seems that they got quite some player issues.

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    Since these sc*ammers have rebranded to Stakepartners they have turned up their spamacitvities to "fullspeed"... My sites and emailaccounts get blasted by these clowns...

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    This archive section should have been closed for posting.

    They are no longer sponsors, it you want to post about them please post in the forum and not in the archive welcome thread.
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