What email service do you use?

[Olessia]

The choice of an email service is a very important issue. Not all services work with gambling. Most of them are overpriced. What solutions have you found?

We are also interested in sending letters to old databases from an old project, but the services call it spam and make it difficult to verify their own database. Perhaps you know exactly those solutions that are as simple as possible and make it possible to work with any database at good prices.

[gil.langelaan]

Hi!

Do you need service for email marketing or simply for communication with affiliates and etc?

Please add here more about your purposes.

If for the 1st option try aweber and sendgrid. Both are good and tested by lots of gambling websites.

[Former Member 14]

OP's Occupation: Affiliate manager

We are also interested in sending letters to old databases from an old project, but the services call it spam and make it difficult to verify their own database.

If you have previously obtained double-optin email/personal data subscriptions from an "old project", BUT commence a 'new project', sending mailers to the old database(s), without renewed subscriptions, is spam.

Your in the EU... So on top of anti-spam laws, you will also be bound by GDPR laws.

Hence, what your requesting is help on how to break the above laws.

You might want to check out the GPWA Private Membership T&C's, I'm pretty sure illegal activities are banned, and will get your membership cancelled.

Please add here more about your purposes.

I think the purpose is crystal clear, mate.

The OP wants to use old databases, which were obtain from old projects (old sites), and wants to use said data, to send mailers from her new project (site) or whatever. However, it seems she's getting hassled for optin proof by 3'rd party mailing services, and is unable to provide this proof of double optin.

Hence, the 3'rd party mailer services are refusing to send out these mailers. And so they should.

If I had a buck for every one of the stories I've read in 21 years in this gig.

Frankly, sounds like the OP has obtained illegal databases and is now trying to find a way to spam


Edit: Very strange indeed... An affiliate manager would know all this information.

[Sherlock]

I am using my proprietary email. I am not a spammer, but even with that I have problems, because google is blocking my email server because of spammers who share the same IP or they are close to my range. Many affiliate websites also block my emails just because for example "they block everything from Russia (where is my email server)".

The spam service is costly, because it is somewhat illegal in most countries as Dave is suggesting it. So you have to pay a price for it. What is your budget?

It is not that someone will load the emails into some software and that is it. You need a lot of IP addresses to burn and those are scarce too. And you need some experience how to do it. Bitcoin is also not for 1 USD. Times change.

[johan_s]

Mailshake, Gmail, GetANewsletter, Rackspace.

[Cash Bonus]

Gmail is my primary one and the other is Outlook.

[Olessia]

Thanks for the advices! Yes, we are looking for an email marketing service with low prices and no claims to our own database

[Olessia]

OP's Occupation: Affiliate manager

Edit: Very strange indeed... An affiliate manager would know all this information.

Not entirely correct. We are not talking about spam, but about a service for working with mailing lists for GAMBLING at good prices. If you are not aware, then not all services deal with gambling. We use only our own databases obtained through the site's subscription form and our direction of SEO traffic is only a small part of email marketing, but the current prices do not suit us.

In any case, the guys have already advised good options that will help with retention.

[universal4]

Dealing with mailing lists that are "rented, purchased or traded" or dealing with your OWN lists you compile from your own website visitors?

That is the key question.

If they are your own lists, you don't need a "service" just decent newsletter software, or something custom written to help you remove bounces and has an auto unsubscribe method for those requesting removal.

For rented lists, it is just spam anyway.

Rick
Universal4

[winexpert]

We use Zoho Mail and WP Mail SMTP Lite Wordress Plugin for contact form.

[MichaelSchumann]

For mainlining purposes we use ESPs. It goes without saying that mailing in Gambling vertical is complicated. Here is what I have already tested:
- Sendgrid (does not allow gambling since 2021 at least)
- Sendex (same)
- Zoho Mail Campaign (same)

What we are doing is following. Amazon ESP. Works perfectly! Still you can not avoid spams no matter which ESP are you using but...
What comes as solution here is email warmup services. Warmups take care of decreasing chance of spamming and keeps your mail attractive for mailing servers. I would cover it here but.. That's another topic.

[universal4]

Email warmup services, use spam to allegedly "warm up" the prospect.

Rick
Universal4

[johan_s]

Gmail!

[MichaelSchumann]

Could you elaborate. Are you saying we should not use Warmup Services ?

[universal4]

If you are using your own email list that you generated from your own websites, there should be zero need for a warmup service of any kind.

Borrowed, rented, purchased, compiled lists from any sources that are not created with a recipient asking for or giving permission to receive mail from you, might need such a service in order "to ask permission to mail to".

In addition, in my opinion, the use of the warmup might actually reduce the click rate. Although the recipient might unsubscribe from first contact, they might also click through to the offer before doing so.

Rick
Universal4

[magnusbrand]

Aweber and GetResponse are good, but it would be better to ask their support team first as they are strict with some niches.

[universal4]

Or you could search the GPWA, or actually read the terms of service on providers you are considering using.

Here is one thread that a member has been told by getresponse they need to find an alternative
https://www.gpwa.org/forum/getrespon...ve-249206.html

In fact this post in that thread cautions that at the time in 2019 aweber still worked, but suggested some caution.
https://www.gpwa.org/forum/getrespon...tml#post913695

There are additional threads scattered throughout the years with various other suggestions.
https://www.gpwa.org/forum/automatio...ce-231671.html
https://www.gpwa.org/forum/email-marketing-217610.html
https://www.gpwa.org/forum/i-need-ad...te-228767.html

The above list is short as I am sure there are many more discussions, try changing search criteria or keywords a little.

As with any service provider choice, be sure to read the terms of service, and check back here at the GPWA in case anyone has dealt with the specific provider to see if any warning or recommendations have been previous posted.

Rick
Universal4