What's the real comission on bet365?

[casasdeapostas.info]

After doing some calculations with large bets coming from one active user on my bet365 affiliates account, I found that real revenue on bet365 is close to 25%, more exactly 24.8%
I know we don't have detailed stats for players, but i'm pretty sure this number is right, because in a specific day I had only one active user from a specific link, and the guy made an exact 4.000€ sports bet and lost it. My revenue from that single bet was 991.60€, which represents the % I mentioned above.

My big question is: When a player wins, do they charge the same 24.8% to our revenue or the full 30% ? I have no way to find it, because I would need to know what odds the players are backing.

I asked the AM's in the past but the answer was never clear.

I have nothing against bet365 affiliates, I still think they have the best program by miles but I just wish the stats were a little more clear.

Can anyone help me with this?

[CONMEN]

What do you mean real and non-real revenue? Isn't it 30% either way?

[casasdeapostas.info]

What do you mean real and non-real revenue? Isn't it 30% either way?

the comission you get in the end of the month is not 30% of the players losses.

on terms and conditions you can read:

3.1 The Referral Commission

Subject to clause 6, you will earn Referral Commission of 30% based on the net profit of your referred Customers. Net profit is defined as:

- on sports activities, all gross monies received by us in respect of all settled bets made by Customers after deducting; (i) monies paid out to Customers as winnings; (ii) monies paid in the form of betting duties or taxes (or reasonable provisions in respect thereof) (iii) bad debts; (iv) fraud; (v) returned stakes; (vi) transactions which are reversed by instruction from the card-holder's bank (commonly referred to as charge-backs); and (vii) voids and (viii) bet/deposit bonuses.


If you are an affiliate for a long time, you will notice that you never get 30% of the players losses, but something around 25%. It's not difficult to figure out, specially for small affiliates who have few players. A lot of times you will see one single bet from a specific link, the player loses that bet and your comission is never 30% of the bet.

[universal4]

That is correct, the terms do NOT state you earn 30% of the bet but 30% of net losses.

Since there are fees associated with the "bet", to assume the bet is the net loss is incorrect.

Rick
Universal4

[CONMEN]

Yeah guys, I've already noticed that.. I'm an affiliate for only 9 months now and I've been surprised from the net profit.. It's around the 25% of the deposits and therefore the 30% of that.. which is extremely low regarding my experience on how people bet.. Thanks casa... for the info!

p.s.: I cannot put a signature.. why is this happening?

[universal4]

Sigs are restricted for new members until the post count climbs.

It's a nice bonus but there is FAR more value here at the GPWA than a backlink.

Rick
Universal4

[casasdeapostas.info]

I keep waiting for a reply from someone inside bet365 about this specific theme. I'm not complaining about their program, I'm happy enough with my numbers, but i just wish the rules were clear to everyone.

I will give you a very good example about this situation:

I have a specific link which includes only one active player, a guy who signed up from a small website a few years ago and keep playing until today. This is the only player I can track, because he's definitely the only one who plays from that tracking link.

yesterday, I got these numbers from this specific link:

Deposits: 0.00
Sports Turnover: 555.00
Number of sports bets: 1
Active sports users: 1
Sports net revenue: 380.91
Affiliate earnings sports: 114.27

I have no deposits from this link since a long time ago and this player is in a very long winning streak, so I can assume the guy didn't have a bonus.
If the guy had only one bet of 555.00 and I had profit, it's obvious he lost the bet. So, from the original 555.00, I get comission over 380,91 only? That's just a little more than 20% revenue, with negative carry over included.

Am I missing something here? it would be great if someone from bet365 could give a clue about it. I just want to know what's the "real" comission after all the deductions, and if it's the same for every affiliate.

Thank you
Happy new Year for all.

[universal4]

$114 from a $380 netwin is 30%

Rick
Universal4

[TheGooner]

I think that the OP is inferring if there was one bet for 550 and it lost then surely net loss should be 550 not 380?
So 114 commission from 550 is just 20% - what happened to the other 170 did it get eaten up in fees?

Of course there are all sorts of things that could be affecting the stats and the way bets are counted, depending on the bet date, match date, type of bet (combo or trixie etc), or whether there was some sort of bonus involved.

The only way to know what has actually happened would be via a Bet365 Affiliate Manager - as it's impossible to tell without details.