View Poll Results: When do you think life in the wake of COVID-19 will return to normal in your country?

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  • 1st Quarter of 2021.

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  • 2nd Quarter of 2021.

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  • 3rd Quarter of 2021

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  • 4th Quarter of 2021.

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  • 1st Half of 2022.

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  • 2nd Half of 2022.

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    Question When do you think life in the wake of COVID-19 will return to normal in your country?

    I believe it will be a while before we are close to a normal in the wake of the Coronavirus pandemic that is close to what normal has meant historically. I am sure that there will be better science over time including better treatment protocols and hopefully a safe and effective vaccine. Personally, I don't believe there will be any "miracle" that results in the virus simply vanishing short of widespread vaccination.

    So, for this week's poll I ask when you think the country where you live will be back to normal and you will feel comfortable traveling to other parts of the world. Besides voting in the poll share your thoughts about what you think it will take.

    Personally, I don't think I will feel that safe until I have been vaccinated, unless I catch and recover from COVID-19 first (and I'm definitely rooting for the former). Although I was sick for a while after the trip to ICE and LAC in London last year, so I guess the best possible outcome for me would be to find out that was actually a mild case of COVID-19 rather than the flu as I have assumed. My most optimistic view is that maybe there will be a vaccine available by the end of the first quarter of 2021, but even if that happens, I think it will likely be the 3rd quarter before vaccination in the United States will reach a level where life seems normal. So I'm voting with my optimistic hat on for the 3rd quarter of next year.

    What do you think will happen in your country? Are you more optimistic or more pessimistic than I am?

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    Personally, i have the feeling that it will take a bit of time (at least 1-2 years ahead, and the max pain has yet to come.

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    - I do not have "my country".
    - I have no idea what is "normal". Is it something like that people in 1st world are bored, work less and demand more, so they get it by politicians at the cost of piling debt? Is it something like people in 3rd world keep living in sh1tholes, hoping to achieve 1st world standard by miracle? Is normal the overall stupidity and ignorance of the billions of people, whose life is just hopeless trying to forget, that we live +-80 years, so maybe we have to try a bit harder? If this is the "normal", then...
    - I am missing the option that it will never get normal. I bet the "good old (disgusting) times" will be never back. Something else will emerge. Maybe it wil be even more disgusting, but the cracks in reality and economy are too deep. People finally lost faith en masse in system and economy and monetary policy crossed the Rubicon. Speaking just only about money - this must end in debt monetization and hyperinflation in near or distant future and we will just go towards it. Speaking about society, there is a new young generation that will be very p1ssed off, because there is no future for them. There will be wars even in the 1st world. Society will dissolve even in the 1st world. 3rd world will lose the illusion about where they are heading and many countries will follow Syria/Libya/Venezuela path. States will try to control everything with the tech tools, but I think they will be less and less important and corporations will take over.

    Cyberpunk time is coming. It is laughable to think that internet will have no impact on everything. Corona was just a catalysator. There will be more catalysators and each will change society for good. So far internet and computers did not change that much during last 20-30 years. The real change comes now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    - I am missing the option that it will never get normal.
    That option has now been added.

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    I think it has probably changed everything so that what we remember as normal wont exist and we'll have to adapt to whatever comes
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    Nothing will get to normal anymore.
    But I believ, 2nd part of 2022 we will have at least conferences, but under very extreme measures.
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    Now everyone is working to find the vaccine.
    Hope this pandemic will over soon and people slowly going back to their normal activity.

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    I'm afraid that the things will never be back to normal. Especially in less developed countries. Other thing, I'm also worried that after this Covid thing, there are some more viruses around the corner, and that the mother nature so angry with us...

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    I believe things will return back to normal sooner or later. The development of a vaccine will help greatly and, hopefully, the amount of research going on at the moment will help prevent future epidemics from becoming so destructive.

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    I'm afraid that the things will never be back to normal. Especially in less developed countries.
    You may be correct but some developed countries don't seem to be immune to this due to the foolhardiness of some of their leaders and citizens.

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    A year from now, assuming there’s an effective vaccine, things may be closer to normal however this coming autumn and winter could be painful for many countries.

    This reinfection story is also a concern for the herd immunity/hope I’ve had it mildly already arguments: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-53889823

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    If the influence of Covid on humans health is not exaggerated by the media, then we will have to live with it for a very long time. At this moment, for us it will be better if that will be another ridiculous conspiracy theory that everyone will gradually forget and get back to normal!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftDog View Post
    I believe things will return back to normal sooner or later. The development of a vaccine will help greatly and, hopefully, the amount of research going on at the moment will help prevent future epidemics from becoming so destructive.

    You may be correct but some developed countries don't seem to be immune to this due to the foolhardiness of some of their leaders and citizens.
    Very true, and I agree. But when you have non EU country in Europe, with greatly corrupted leaders, and instead of pumping money into healthcare, and hospitals, they want to build some stupid things which costs 100+ millions of euros, then I cannot be very optimistic...

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    Too early to tell.

    Given the nature of the Covid-19 virus and it's ability to change significantly within four months I don't believe that there will a be a single vaccine that will do the job for more than 1 cycle so Ithink the chance / hope of a vaccine and getting mass immunity is close to zero.

    My feeling is that once 50%+ of the population have experienced Covid-19 then it will be normal.
    But when will that be?

    The United States has a moron in charge of their pandemic response, but conversely the fact that the virus is running rampant through most states means that it's probably countries failing to control the spread like the United States, India and Brazil that are more likely to get "back to normal" quicker.

    Perhaps "back to normal" will be late 2021 or early 2022 for countries that failed to control the virus.

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    Meanwhile .... my country of New Zealand is using an "island fortress" approach - locking down the economy and preventing any spread. So although we are avoiding deaths - we are wasting billions subsidising jobs that don't do anything any more - and not boosting our health system.

    Instead we what for ... what? A magic vaccine?
    We can't do a 100,000 flu shot program - what chance do we have of a 5,000,000 vaccine program?

    We will not be "back to normal" until 2023 or later and the economy will be very different for us.

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    Certainly here in the UK, and probably for the entire Western World we're going to have to accept "new normals", rather than a return back to before COVID-19. There will still be restrictions in place (hopefully minor ones compared to current) in 2 years time, have no doubt about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post

    Meanwhile .... my country of New Zealand is using an "island fortress" approach - locking down the economy and preventing any spread. So although we are avoiding deaths - we are wasting billions subsidising jobs that don't do anything any more - and not boosting our health system.
    I am far saying anything is clear, but it seems probable that this approach is the bad one.

    There is another country that chose this island approach. Paraguay. Although not an island, actually a landlocked country, little bit isolated and historically living on their own - so it was possible. The most strict lockdown. They did not let even citizens and residents to arrive. Nada. FO.

    Even this fortress eroded slowly, then because of big protests very quickly, now PY has horrible numbers. From covid hero to zero.
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    Hopefully in the beginning of 2021 all come back to normal, at least here in Germany.

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    I hope soon, because I'm tired of it.

    We've had a two-month-lockdown, but anyway numbers are even worse than before the lockdown. Also, travel options are very limited still, as we're red/orange area almost every where.

    The virus exists, but I think there's also a lot of exaggeration going on. Everybody who died and also had Corona is included in the numbers, even people that were already in a terminal phase. A lot of people also got infected in hospitals.

    I'm convinced in this case the "solution" is way worse than the problem. With a lot of problems it's better to take the pain at once. If you're having debits with a heavy interest rate, it's sometimes better to pay off at once instead of keep on paying monthly.

    I'm not a virology expert, but if people who got Covid-19 can get infected quote soon after recovering again, what's the use of a vaccine? If people with a weak health need to be protected from the virus, there are two approaches: isolate everybody or isolate them. I'd go for the 2nd approach. It's no solution to lockdown for months or years. That's a bit like running a marathon and start like Usain Bolt in a sprint.

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    Hi hate to use the cliché but I think this will now be our new normal and we will not be back to our old normal, at least for some time. People will remain nervous and skeptical and be cautious if not overly cautious.

    Look at the airline industry. Due to one person with explosives in their shoe years later we continue to have to remove our shoes. There are many more examples.

    In Canada for the most part people have adapted well to the new restrictions/guidelines. Yes, some protests but nothing like seen elsewhere.

    When all is said and done we will have adopted new habits that will be staying with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    Meanwhile .... my country of New Zealand is using an "island fortress" approach - locking down the economy and preventing any spread. So although we are avoiding deaths - we are wasting billions subsidising jobs that don't do anything any more - and not boosting our health system.

    Instead we what for ... what? A magic vaccine?
    We can't do a 100,000 flu shot program - what chance do we have of a 5,000,000 vaccine program?

    We will not be "back to normal" until 2023 or later and the economy will be very different for us.
    Pretty much an identical state of affairs across the 'ditch', here in AU.

    I'm fortunate to live in South Australia, where, we have not had a "new" covid-19 case. And, of those we have had, the numbers are very small indeed. We've essentially been living in a bubble for the past few months, with our borders blocked.

    We've certainly done a lot better than other AU states. Victoria is STILL in stage4 lock-down.

    Victoria data comparison:
    https://www.dhhs.vic.gov.au/victoria...-covid-19-data

    114 new cases
    (last 24 hours)

    total cases 19,015

    14,231 test results received
    (last 24 hours)

    total tests
    2,210,447

    11
    lives lost
    (last 24 hours)

    524
    total lives lost

    recovered 2,830

    active cases
    15,580


    South Australia data (reiterating we've been living in a bubble) our state Gov., has done an exceptional job:
    https://www.covid-19.sa.gov.au/home/dashboard

    Stats for Sunday 30'th Aug 2020:

    New cases today0
    Active cases1
    Total cases463

    Patients in hospital0
    Patients in ICU0
    Recovered458

    Deaths4
    Tests yesterday3,111
    Total tests376,562

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    Will things ever get back to "normal", like it was before this pandemic? NO!
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    I am so tired of this COVID-19 news every day. Closing boarders, then open it again, then again closing because and people need to go quarantine..... Of course the cases grow everywhere, but many countries also test 5 times more people as it was in March/April and most of the cases are without symptoms.

    Hospitals are far from full as it was months ago, so what's the problem? Why all the politician all over the world handle this situation so bad?? I am so annoyed....

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