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    Default Who is Displaying at London Affiliate Conference?

    In my quest to rectify my 2009 faults here:

    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/affiliate...-a-185895.html

    Could someone display a list of programs who are displaying at the London Conference? Are any very harmful to affiliates? I'm not saying small complaints but rather large harmful affiliate programs?

    Please be held accountable here. If we are truly in this together then we must address this. A deposit on a booth does not protect affiliates.

    A complete list of all programs displaying is the way to go. Alex, could you supply this?

    Thank you,

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    Hi Paula

    I can help you out, NordicBet eil be attending LAC and we will have stand.

    A question will you be attending???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill View Post
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    I can help you out, NordicBet eil be attending LAC and we will have stand.

    A question will you be attending???

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    Is that relevant?

    Is Nordicbet player/affiliate friendly? I haven't checked.

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    Paula

    It was just a simple question no offensive intended.

    As for NordicBet i am pretty shocked that you even have to ask, the company has been around since 2002 as for the affiliate program it was formed in September 2009 and i created every part of it including the T&Cs and I can proudly say that every part of the program is affiliate freindly.


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    Is that relevant?

    Is Nordicbet player/affiliate friendly? I haven't checked.

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    Paula, Alex is on holiday till next week if memory serves. The LAC website (www.londonaffiliateconference.com) has not been updated (yet) with the usual list of "sponsor" programs but does list a couple of programs on the home page.... the usual big guns are there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill View Post
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    It was just a simple question no offensive intended


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    Last time I brought this up we got in an argument so I didn't want to do that again. I misunderstood.

    I wasn't saying anything bad about noridicbet! I don't know the program is all.

    Thanks Chips. I wonder if there is any site that lists them?

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    Hi Paula

    I have no beef with you and i have no intention of fighting with you.

    Kind of interesting that you say you have never looked at Nordicbet, it is a good way for me to evaluate the value of the GPWA, i know everybody says you get out what you put in, and i think i out a lot in being active and yet one of the most active affiliayte posters has never looked at my program.......

    Anyway I hope to see you in London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    Last time I brought this up we got in an argument so I didn't want to do that again. I misunderstood.

    I wasn't saying anything bad about noridicbet! I don't know the program is all.

    Thanks Chips. I wonder if there is any site that lists them?

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    Yeah Shaun it says alot But sometimes affiliates judge a program by the name ,it gives me impression of sports betting and unless i were looking for sports book i probably wouldn't pay much attention either.Having NOW looked at your website i see you guys got quite a bit there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by casinobonusguy View Post
    Yeah Shaun it says alot But sometimes affiliates judge a program by the name ,it gives me impression of sports betting and unless i were looking for sports book i probably wouldn't pay much attention either.Having NOW looked at your website i see you guys got quite a bit there.
    Very true. I thought it was sportsbook and I am casino only. It's me not paying attn and not gpwa value I think. I see now that you just launched a download casino too.

    To get back to this..

    Rather than expelling programs from the event, I wonder if adding seals such as GAU, AGD and others to those who have them or are pending approval either on the booth or in a brochure would be feasable to alert affs that the program has taken the extra step. Or, if they are rogued, that also could be printed. It would give incentive for programs to stay off that list!

    Some sort of system should be implemented IMHO.

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    Here is a list of sponsors and exhibitors.

    http://www.londonaffiliateconference...x.php/sponsors
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    Hi Anthony,

    Referback is also exhibiting, but I don't see our logo on this page. Am I missing something?

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    Paula

    I like the way that you are thinking, i for one am pretty sick of seeing operators change terms ect but the problem i see is that who decideds which rooms are rouge and which are okay, for example look at AP massive problems running into millions yet many did not drop them and now all seems to have been forgotten about but some will still be pissed and rouge them, would you class them as arouge operator?

    As i said when this came up on a previous thread i think it is better that they show up in public and people can go face to face with them better than hiding on the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    Very true. I thought it was sportsbook and I am casino only. It's me not paying attn and not gpwa value I think. I see now that you just launched a download casino too.

    To get back to this..

    Rather than expelling programs from the event, I wonder if adding seals such as GAU, AGD and others to those who have them or are pending approval either on the booth or in a brochure would be feasable to alert affs that the program has taken the extra step. Or, if they are rogued, that also could be printed. It would give incentive for programs to stay off that list!

    Some sort of system should be implemented IMHO.

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    Cobus

    I think as Alex is away the site has not been updated sure it will be done shortly.

    See you in London.

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    Hi Anthony,

    Referback is also exhibiting, but I don't see our logo on this page. Am I missing something?

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    Cobus,

    Shaun is right. I am sure if you contact Alex he will update the site.
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    Thanks guys!

    Alex is actually in Cape Town - think I will pop in by his hotel and let him know

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    It might be easier to make a list of programs that should not be allowed at the show to recruit newbie affiliates. The list should include:

    • Vegas Affiliates
    • Affiliate Lounge
    • Cpays
    • Grand Prive / Villa Fortuna
    • Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet / Chipleader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill View Post
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    I like the way that you are thinking, i for one am pretty sick of seeing operators change terms ect but the problem i see is that who decideds which rooms are rouge and which are okay

    Shaun
    I think that's what we are trying to figure out here. How to go about at least warning the aff and letting them decide for themselves. I have to believe that ops would prefer not to be in a booth next to a program with a horrible track record.

    For example..

    From Guard Dog:

    Affiliate Lounge is considered a Predatory affiliate program for the following reasons:

    1. Removal of Players from Affiliate Account if those players are considered 'Dormant'

    2. Breach of Contract

    3. Implementation of Affiliate Quota, Retroactively, which can result in termination of account and commissions stealing.


    Please do NOT promote Affiliate Lounge until which time they have resolved these very serious matters.
    AGD is trying to help affs make an informed decision but it is counterproductive to have them display openly without care. So what do we do?

    http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...ory-t1709.html

    Looking at the list, I had to google ashley madison. I found she is an adult porn star who opened a website to promote adultery by hooking up married (to others) people. Motto "life is short, have an affair".

    Not sure what to think on that one. ??

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    I think it puts Alex and others in a tough spot, he job is to fill the room and get affiliates to the events if he allows a rouge operator will it stop affiliates going, i doubt it will it upset people, maybe.

    As for other affiliates how do they find out if a program is bad? i would expect anybody to at least do a google search on any new company they are about to work with and in most cases that will show everthing they need to know.

    I would be suprised if anybody running the shows will allow any kind of guy company bad company logo.

    For example should operators form the US be in attendance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mojo View Post
    I think that's what we are trying to figure out here. How to go about at least warning the aff and letting them decide for themselves. I have to believe that ops would prefer not to be in a booth next to a program with a horrible track record.

    For example..

    From Guard Dog:



    AGD is trying to help affs make an informed decision but it is counterproductive to have them display openly without care. So what do we do?

    http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...ory-t1709.html

    Looking at the list, I had to google ashley madison. I found she is an adult porn star who opened a website to promote adultery by hooking up married (to others) people. Motto "life is short, have an affair".

    Not sure what to think on that one. ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill View Post
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    I think it puts Alex and others in a tough spot, he job is to fill the room and get affiliates to the events if he allows a rouge operator will it stop affiliates going, i doubt it will it upset people, maybe.

    As for other affiliates how do they find out if a program is bad? i would expect anybody to at least do a google search on any new company they are about to work with and in most cases that will show everthing they need to know.

    I would be suprised if anybody running the shows will allow any kind of guy company bad company logo.

    For example should operators form the US be in attendance?

    Shaun
    I don't feel it should be that difficult to have quality control.

    Event orgainizers should not ignore jtodd videos, agd warnings, gau warnings, cm warnings, a kazillion posts etc etc. We are not talking about average small problems with a program. We are talking about the big stuff.

    There are plenty of great programs to fill a room. Fortunatly, not many on the list right now have MAJOR problems.

    I know we won't agree on this shaun and it's good to hear everyones thoughts. Should we do nothing then?

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    Paula

    Sorry we do agree on this i feel that rouge companies should not be able to attend events but I feel policing it is impossible.

    If we look at the post by Engineer and use those site as example ( I am not saying they should beable to attend on not)...
    [quote=Engineer;576079]It might be easier to make a list of programs that should not be allowed at the show to recruit newbie affiliates. The list should include:

    • Vegas Affiliates
    • Affiliate Lounge
    • Cpays
    • Grand Prive / Villa Fortuna
    • Absolute Poker / Ultimate Bet / Chipleader
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    but Chipleader has a huge stand and spends a lot of money, cpays also pretty now if these companies stop going that puts the cost up for smaller or new companies which could in turn stop them from attending, this is a real chicken and egg situation and I dont expect companies like the one Alexs works for to lose money due to this.

    Paula do you think operators that except US players should be allowed to attend?

    Thanks

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