Is it worth it to start an affiliate crypto casino site?

[Rolls]

Hi everyone noobie here looking to learn about affiliate.

Is it worth to build a crypto affiliate site. I own a couple of domains that could be considered high quality names. they incl the name of the token and Casino and are .com

I've tried hitting up a few casinos to see reaction of them using names but got nothing in reply, hence why I am here.

Ideally I could build a casino but stuff like regulations and licences would get in the way, not to mention the huge cost,

so, just looking to see if affiliation is a way forward.

[universal4]

How long is a piece of string?

The answer lies in to the amount of work etc you are willing to put in, and a small question that goes along with it, how much income needs to be created before you consider it "worth it" ?

The easy answer to your question is most likely, Yes, or possibly, what do you have to lose.

Rick
Universal4

[Cash Bonus]

Very well said, Rick.

Welcome to the GPWA, Rolls. I don't see what's stopping you from creating an affiliate crypto casino site. You should at least consider some aff programs to register with first, and then start planning how you will design and create your website for your purposes. You'll Never see results until you at least make a genuine effort and begin somewhere.

[Rolls]

You're probably sick of answering that question Rick, but I didnt see a thread on crypto affiliates so i thought I'd get peoples opinion on it.

When I get more time I'll do a lot more digging around.

As regards "worth it" I'm learning to affiliate Rick its going to be slow so I'm not expecting some golden goose to suddenly fly down and lay a few eggs.

I may start off with a Blackjack domain I own to ease myself into this world.

[Rolls]

Thanks CB, wise words and I've decided to use a Blackjack + a country name .com to ease myself into this world of affiliate.

I think it makes more sense to learn from that one first rather than a crypto site and if I make $1 a week or 500 I'm happy either way.

It's the idea part I want working.

[Meistro1]

Well you have to ask yourself what are your costs with regards to hosting, investment in the site either your time or your money you are going to put one of those in and how much you expect to gain. I think it is a decent long term investment, even if affiliate sites aren't generating as much profit as they used to you should be able to recoup a reasonable ROI even factoring in the time you invest.

[Rolls]

Well you have to ask yourself what are your costs with regards to hosting, investment in the site either your time or your money you are going to put one of those in and how much you expect to gain. I think it is a decent long term investment, even if affiliate sites aren't generating as much profit as they used to you should be able to recoup a reasonable ROI even factoring in the time you invest.

Thanks Meistro1, time I dont factor as a cost, as its my time. if it starts to make money on a consistent basis then yes I can factor it in, but, that is a long way done the road, site needs to prove it can make money first.

I'd be delighted if it made the hosting costs back. I am learning this from scratch so I don't know what to expect.

Money wise, spending will have to be on the minimal side to see what kind of results I get, if money is made I will reinvest into site to make bigger and better.

[chaumi]

I'm guessing you've self-evaluated, Rolls? I get the impression you have.

What are your skills? What are you good at?

For starters......

Technically putting the site together?
Structuring it?
Do you 'know' your subject?
Do you know what's needed to present your subject (for both users and search engines)?
Writing? Images? Video, maybe?

[Rolls]

I'm guessing you've self-evaluated, Rolls? I get the impression you have.

What are your skills? What are you good at?

For starters......

Technically putting the site together?
Structuring it?
Do you 'know' your subject?
Do you know what's needed to present your subject (for both users and search engines)?
Writing? Images? Video, maybe?

I didn't self evaluate but I'd be a jack of all trades master of none Chaumi.

Technically I can put the site together, not great but I can do it.
same with structuring it.

Gambling, I used to love going to a site built by a guy that created a database
of all horse races and you could play around with the settings.
So I can write about the gambling aspects.

Presenting the subject would be writing SEO articles, not the best, but I can do it.

Images if used can be stock, but video, hmm, I didn't think of that.
Thanks.

and the more I think of it the more it makes sense as youtube is only getting bigger and bigger.

[chaumi]

I didn't self evaluate but I'd be a jack of all trades master of none Chaumi.

Technically I can put the site together, not great but I can do it.
same with structuring it.

Gambling, I used to love going to a site built by a guy that created a database
of all horse races and you could play around with the settings.
So I can write about the gambling aspects.

Presenting the subject would be writing SEO articles, not the best, but I can do it.

Images if used can be stock, but video, hmm, I didn't think of that.
Thanks.

and the more I think of it the more it makes sense as youtube is only getting bigger and bigger.

OK yeah, so part of the reasoning behind the questions was...

1. to make you think about them (and I know you know that ...or at least, if you didn't appreciate them, then you would now
2. Cos in my head I was questioning the 'let's practice on one first' approach

Why the doubt over a practice effort?

Because it's going to take time and effort to get to the point whether you have a good feeling about whether what you're doing is working. Potentially years (although there are many many influences that can play a part in actually how long, and you'd hope it wasn't that long).

So, if all your effort is going into something you're 'just' playing with, you have the risk of..........

1. losing impetus/interest/drive (happens to all of us to varying degrees at times)
2. if you can keep going, significant use of effort gets you to a point where you have to start all over again on what you wanted to do in the first place


From your answers, I'd recognize that perhaps a learning effort is indeed the way to go. However, note those points I made and try not to underestimate their importance. It's a tough call, with many nuances, but if there was any way to position yourself to go all out straight into what you really/ultimately want to do, it could give you better long term results by doing that.

[eenzoo]

This thread goes the direction of your question Complete Noob - Need some guidance.

[chaumi]

This thread goes the direction of your question Complete Noob - Need some guidance.

Well remembered,Eenzoo

[Rolls]

OK yeah, so part of the reasoning behind the questions was...

1. to make you think about them (and I know you know that ...or at least, if you didn't appreciate them, then you would now
2. Cos in my head I was questioning the 'let's practice on one first' approach

Why the doubt over a practice effort?

Because it's going to take time and effort to get to the point whether you have a good feeling about whether what you're doing is working. Potentially years (although there are many many influences that can play a part in actually how long, and you'd hope it wasn't that long).

So, if all your effort is going into something you're 'just' playing with, you have the risk of..........

1. losing impetus/interest/drive (happens to all of us to varying degrees at times)
2. if you can keep going, significant use of effort gets you to a point where you have to start all over again on what you wanted to do in the first place


From your answers, I'd recognize that perhaps a learning effort is indeed the way to go. However, note those points I made and try not to underestimate their importance. It's a tough call, with many nuances, but if there was any way to position yourself to go all out straight into what you really/ultimately want to do, it could give you better long term results by doing that.

I appreciate the response Chaumi, and yes I know why you were doing it, to make sure that I know what I am getting into is not a piece of cake.

Everyday or so, I'm going to work on a plan to get it going.. first the idea, the niche, the site and finally publishing it, and yes there is going to be a lot of learning on the job.

So here goes.

Niche will be blackjack only, as site name is B/l/a/c/k/j/a/c/k/T/u/r/k/i/y/e/.com
Target country will be UK.

Players will be english speaking Turkish or Turkish origin, with plans to add Turkish as site progresses.
It would make sense to 1st write in Turkish, but since I don't speak the language I will have to use English.


Why UK?
I learnt from reading here targeting of Turkish players in Turkiye ( now official name ) is a minefield best left avoided.
Only horse racing sports and lotto is catered for in Turkiye thru state run or companies tied closely to state.

Site will be built using Wordpress with mobile responsive.
To begin, there will be Home page, Rules of Blackjack page, how to play Blackjack page and Blackjack tips page
Later pages with casino aff links and reviews will be added.

Content wrote by myself to be added 4-5 times a week for 3 months, then reducing to maybe 1/2 a week.

Idea is to get the site built and worry about the affiliate links later if it proves promising.

[Rolls]

This thread goes the direction of your question Complete Noob - Need some guidance.

Great info there thanks Eenzoo and Chaumi

[eenzoo]

Welcome!

Oh wow.

I'm 15 yrs in affiliate marketing, since 2014 in online casino niche. Main focus in live dealer stuff, so on BJ ... never ever I would come along with the idea to serve UK players (TR, IN roots or what ever).

UK is THAT minefield at its best, highest regulation u can imagine, one of the most saturated markets ever. Only **** operators left, tiny margins, taxes ... - Jesus hell, think twice.

Turkey is great instead. Table game lovers (Roulette actually), vivid sports bettors, grey/black market (means without big media outlets).
Imo, one of the coolest bets you can make if you can conquer the language barrier.

But if you would keep it anyway in ENG, do yourself a favor and skip the UK ... India, Singapore, Malaysia, USA, even Australia ... all better!

[BCGame Affiliates]

Rick and Chaumi pretty much covered it!

[Rolls]

Welcome!

Oh wow.

I'm 15 yrs in affiliate marketing, since 2014 in online casino niche. Main focus in live dealer stuff, so on BJ ... never ever I would come along with the idea to serve UK players (TR, IN roots or what ever).

UK is THAT minefield at its best, highest regulation u can imagine, one of the most saturated markets ever. Only **** operators left, tiny margins, taxes ... - Jesus hell, think twice.

Turkey is great instead. Table game lovers (Roulette actually), vivid sports bettors, grey/black market (means without big media outlets).
Imo, one of the coolest bets you can make if you can conquer the language barrier.

But if you would keep it anyway in ENG, do yourself a favor and skip the UK ... India, Singapore, Malaysia, USA, even Australia ... all better!

A niche of a niche of a niche I know it sounds like a terrible idea but thats why I am giving the plan first! I want it to be small so I can change things around easily.

I am starting small Eenzoo and have a lot to learn, build first in a small small niche market and progress from there if results look good.

The reason I picked UK was because of a large Turkish population, but, after what you mentioned I can easily change that to Australia, I had considered USA but I thought that market would be saturated.

Its a plan in motion so can easily be changed.

[eenzoo]

So lets say you start to target BJ terms in Google.co.uk
Website is in ENG language, it doesn't matter if you target turkish guys or Prince Charles in that moment.
U promote casinos , suitable for UK citizens who love to play blackjack.

Yes, that's a niche. I would call it one of the most competitive niches.




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But why the "Turkish population" angle? If you think about English speaking casino markets the two most (imo) interesting and most "easy" markets are the USA (offshore) and India.

[Rolls]

So lets say you start to target BJ terms in Google.co.uk
Website is in ENG language, it doesn't matter if you target turkish guys or the Price Charles.
U promote casinos , suitable for UK citizens who love to play blackjack.

Yes, that's a niche. I would call it one of the most competitive niches.




....

But why the "Turkish population" angle? If you think about English speaking casino markets the two most (imo) interesting and most "easy" markets are the USA (offshore) and India.

The reason for turkish is the name of the domain, Blackjack + official country name/com It would be great to put a site in Turkish, but I dont speak it. So I have to stick with what I know, english. I know that google seo practice allows an EMD to be easily overcome by proper SEO, however, I am looking for domain name recognition for long term.

The reason I targetted UK would be large english speaking Turkish market with disposable income that may look further and based on name recognition of domain be inclined to click.


If I can see that it is promising then, transition to a full Turkish site serving Turkish blackjack players, but for that to happen I need to take baby steps and a lot of testing.

[eenzoo]

But the point is, in UK blackjack serps u will never come close enough to put even a toe into the water without spending a fortune (and I mean a fortune) on content and link building.

And the language stuff is biased too. They will leave your site pissed if they have realized you're in English and you show the nonsense UK licensed casinos, everyone with a little bigger bankroll would like to avoid?!

Little edit: Some time ago I have asked several US casinos, Spanish (native) speaking US citizens, if it would be a benefit or a USP, if the review site, the guides etc. would be available in Spanish. ... con-sense was, I don't give a **** ...

Its bit complicated because u are in love with your domain, but if u need to stick with, do so but avoid targeting the UK.
Build a site for Turkish players if u like, try the waters but UK regulations and competition will eat all your enthusiasm.