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    Question Would a vaccination requirement change the likelihood of your attending a tradeshow?

    With gaming industry conferences beginning to resume with a pandemic still in progress, conference organizers are following a variety of procedures to minimize the risk and ensure attendees are kept as safe as possible. Frequently, but not always, such policies are based on local government mandates.

    For example, in Nevada, Governor Sisolak issued an emergency directive on July 27th that would require everyone, including fully vaccinated individuals, to wear a mask at indoor public settings in counties with substantial or high transmission rates. Las Vegas, where the Global Gaming Expo (G2E) is being held on October 4th to 7th was covered by that executive order. Subsequently, in an announcement on Wednesday, August 11th, G2E announced that masks would be required at the exhibition. Essentially, the announcement simply conformed the government mandate applied to the show.

    However, in a further statement made this Tuesday, August 31st, G2E went further and announced "For G2E 2021, all show participants will be required to provide proof of a COVID-19 vaccination. Proof of at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine approved by the FDA or authorized for emergency use by the FDA or WHO will be required for attendees, exhibitors, media, speakers, and AGA and RX staff."

    So, G2E has now instituted an additional requirement that goes beyond the government-mandated requirements.

    For today's poll I ask if such a mandate would decrease or increase the likelihood you would choose to attend a trade show. I expect it will decrease the likelihood for anyone that has not yet been vaccinated. For those that have been vaccinated, or plan to be vaccinated soon, I could imagine various perspectives, depending on the extent you are concerned about the health risks of attending tradeshows even with a vaccination.

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    I am currently in a location where mask mandates and vaccination passports are illegal.

    No one is dropping dead in the streets from a pandemic.

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    It does not change anything. The probability going there is the same as b4. 0%

    However I try to avoid anything where masks are needed, because I can not breathe. I really can not. After hours on plane I always got sinusitis. Along with headache (probably from the rear fixators that press my head).

    After being jabbed I stopped wearing respirators (the reinforced mask) even in countries where it is mandatory, except on boarding on planes, because I do not need to argue with the feminazis at counters, who now have incredible power.

    So I wear a handy Japanese reusable porous mask. Even that super light mask is however restricting some air. Even that is not comfortable on ears. And it gets wet, so it is not very hygienic.

    Another issue is that USA is not allowing people from Europe arrive at all, so good luck.

    And another thing are quarentenas. Even if someone from abroad can sneak to USA, then very likely he will face 1-2 weeks homeprison or prison at "health facility" after return at home.

    Let's face it. Even the requirement of PCR test is enough for most people to not travel. I saw it few months ago, when states started to open. With even more restrictions this will not work. I do not know why this is being organised now. Same nonsense as Olympic games.
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    I would not attend the shows anymore if the requirement are a vaccination, which btw they clearly launched for other reasons then the so-called 'pandemic'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandertheodoor View Post
    I would not attend the shows anymore if the requirement are a vaccination, which btw they clearly launched for other reasons then the so-called 'pandemic'.
    Good to see someone talking some sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandertheodoor View Post
    I would not attend the shows anymore if the requirement are a vaccination, which btw they clearly launched for other reasons then the so-called 'pandemic'.
    Could you elaborate on those "other reasons" for me, please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandertheodoor View Post
    I would not attend the shows anymore if the requirement are a vaccination, which btw they clearly launched for other reasons then the so-called 'pandemic'.
    Definitely. The real reason of vaccines, which very likely do not harm that much and do not help that much is to spread the tsunami of conspiracies and hate. It was boring to talk about football. This is much better. Meanwhile economy suffers because miliatnt idiots from both sides need their playground.

    I do not know whether I am sicker from people who refuse to meet with me p2p in a park, because there is corona and I have to accept such life. Or whether I am sicker from "wink, wink, corona is changing your DNA" imbeciles, who do not even know the difference between DNA and RNA.

    In the end it is the same irrational fear of death from both sides and badly masked need for a flame war.

    I always considered sport and sport fans utterly stupid (although making websites for them). Now I consider the times when hooligans were able to release the pressure in street fights as a golden age.

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    On topic. I need to travel to country A right now. There are some confusing rules. Of course they are confusing not just for me. but for everyone, even for those who enforce them. So airline told me now I can fly. The health department of country A told me I can certainly fly. The embassy of country A does not respond. The epidemiologic department of country A told me indirectly that I can not fly.

    So I have to buy a ticket. I have to buy a hotel for my home jail after arrival. I have to go to PCR test. I have to buy insurance. I have to fill some useless online forms. I have to spend a lot of time wearing face fask. I have to keep drying my skin with plenty of cleaning alcohol. I have to uselessly communicate with a lot of people who do not know anything. I have to risk catching corona because of that all. On the top a lot of stress and little rest, so if I catch the covid, it would be harder. Then they maybe not let me board. Or they will send me back.

    Like is seriously anyone considering flying?

    And yes, it is worse and worse. Until now it was possible to fake the PCR tests. So instead of going to place where a lot of people were gathering with high probability of covid, I doctored old PCR at home, where I am sitting all the time and all was good. Now they start to implement QR codes to pcr tests, so this is not safely possible anymore.

    Or the mandatory quarantene. Before it was quite a formal step. I arrived to a country, I could go whenever I wanted to stay isolated. Fine. I rented a cabin in mountains and I went during the isolation at least walking into nature. And now? You get a gps tracker, you have to rent a certain hotel in a city. So you really can not move. It is a regular home prison as punishment for crossing the borders.
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    Isn’t it then easier to just get vaccinated and travel virtually without any restrictions?

    Granted, the Covid protocols, all the paperwork, masks and restrictions are a pain, but I don’t want to spend my whole life being afraid and not leaving home at the first sign of trouble.

    I have traveled reasonably frequently in 2020 and 2021 and I plan to continue doing so. The vaccine just makes it a lot easier to visit most countries and cheaper too.

    To answer the original question. Since I believe every single person is responsible for their own life and should not be denied a choice, whatever it may be, I do not support vaccine-only events as PCR tests can be used as an equivalent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Roman View Post
    Isn’t it then easier to just get vaccinated and travel virtually without any restrictions?
    That is why I got inoculated. I thought it will be. It was a lie.

    Just a few countries make travelling easier for vaccinated people. In fact it is just one - the EU. The vaccines make sense only if one needs to travel between EU states + it makes sense when someone wants to travel from EU to some "open" country and then needs to return. USA is closed for EU regardless whether you got the jab or not.

    EU is by far not a world.
    And also travelling =/= tourism.
    And another fun is coming to Europe: they are shortening the validity of vaccine certificates. I think Croatia and Greece already made the validity 6/9 months. So it seems even for travelling inside of the EU superstate one will have to get jabs more than once a year.

    This is exactly the moment where desperate people turn into conspiracies.
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    Yeah, you may have a point there.

    I also feel they will make us get vaccinated at least few more times one way or another, and I don’t like it to be honest.

    Don’t know if the excessive Covid hype is meant for pharmaceutical companies to make even more money or the world powers want us all to constantly live in the state of fear, but this has definitely been blown out of proportion.
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    The only thing they will make with 3rd, 4th etc jab (why it reminds me the 2nd, 3rd facemask) is much more antivaxers.

    What I expect is that two things will occur at once. Public will turn into antivax and covid will mutate into something much more deadlier.

    The deadliest strain is trained from both sides: We force covid to avoid the vaccine through mutations, but at the same time we are not able to inoculate everyone, so the mutations spread.

    I believe the money made is just a side effect. Any change simply produces opportunity for someone and problem for someone else.
    The fear is the reason. But it is not the result. The fear was always here as a product of postmodern society. It just needed the covid to be visible. I do not think some world powers would want this even if they had that power to want it. The societies are not possible to be governed. Have you seen the rise of grey economy? Taxes are not collected. In Czechia for example government stopped with mandatory real-time reporting of VAT. Many small businesses that had to be closed during lockdown were in fact open and they changed to business model to no-tax. Same outcome I see in LATAM. Borders are closed to protect national businesses with Covid being just a weak excuse. Deglobalisation at full scale. This is not good for business. Not good for taxes and not good for power.
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    It was a great relief to get my second dose, but I still don't go anywhere without a mask. I would be more likely to attend a trade show where I knew everyone was vaccinated in a city where proof of vaccine was also required to enter restaurants and bars. But I have no intention to do so. I'm nowhere near ready to go through a crowded airport or get on a plane.

    I suppose anti-vaxers have a right to their misguided opinions. But I have a right to not want them anywhere near me.

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    But I have a right to not want them anywhere near me.
    This is the opened can with worms.

    Because they have then the right not to want you close to them. And as absurd it sounds exactly this is a reality. It is not just some redneck US pub that does not allow inoculated people to enter. It is now a program of political party: "We will test for covid only the people who GOT jabbed" is a program of a political party called "Swiss democracy". And this statement is made by the chairman who is a molecular biologist.

    And of course here it does not end. When peope start putting fences between them and the rest of the world it will go on. Society can not be segmented, because then following logic is valid:

    The antivaxers are mostly young and healthier. So they can start to demnad the right to not be close to the old (and not to finance their healthcare and even pensions). They can demand the right not to be close to obese. After all old and fat are people who got much more sick after infection. So they spread the infection more, longer, they catch it easier and they are therefore more dangerous group than the young and lean ones.

    In a normal society people could theoretically forsee where their particular demands are going. Because the real problem can happen when they are too successful. Because then part of the society (yes, the misguided one, because it is not in my camp) is not part of the society anymore and that is the real problem of covid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    Definitely. The real reason of vaccines, which very likely do not harm that much and do not help that much is to spread the tsunami of conspiracies and hate.
    Wow! So, who is behind this orchestrated drive "to spread the tsunami of conspiracies and hate", is it the Illuminati, and if so for what reason?

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    I have had the first dose.. only reason im getting vaccinated is so I can travel again, I have had close family members in hospital, on oxygen (40 years old) and others still with long term effects of covid along with a another memeber who pased away so many peoples views will be based on experience.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpunter View Post
    I have had the first dose.. only reason im getting vaccinated is so I can travel again, I have had close family members in hospital, on oxygen (40 years old) and others still with long term effects of covid along with a another memeber who pased away so many peoples views will be based on experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftDog View Post
    Wow! So, who is behind this orchestrated drive "to spread the tsunami of conspiracies and hate", is it the Illuminati, and if so for what reason?
    There is nobody / nothing material behind it. As always when conspiracies appear.

    As I read what I wrote, I maybe wrote it wrong, or at least you can read it wrong, because I was not clear. I meant it like this: The vaccines and rather the whole "fight" with corona, is here done in the way it divides the society. All the jab campaigns aimed at the young and healthy people are awkward towards them. And I can really feel them, even when I am old. Boomers took their economy away. And now they want them to get jabs against something that will very likely not harm them. So the young people have with their own sacrifice protect the old ones, that will in the end demand just more sources for their pensions and helthcare. This is all what is going on behind it. And the best is that the old ones and politicians claim that the vacciness are NOT mandatory, when they in fact are. It is kind of we will rob you, we will **** you and it is all with your consent. No wonder that the young ones are against it. They have no experience to see this is a class/age struggle, but they can feel things. And because they can not interpret what they feel, we have the result: the incredibly stupid conspiracies about 5G antenas. I thought this is obvious.


    Again: I got my jabs. I am not an antivaxer. I see 2 camps that need to fight, that is all. I had no problem to take the vaccine that will not harm me much and that will not protect me much. In fact it harmed me, my arm still hurts and my sight is not ok, but it is nothing serious. I believe vaccines can help, but not that much.

    The real problem is that the old and sick people are the voting power now. They want to survive even at the costs of the young and the young are in defensive, so they have this "social guerilla war" with spreading utter nonsense.

    Because this is really getting out of control. After the first mistake, when people were promised that the end of corona will be the jabs and we will live like normally after that if we get it, the society division was made, bacuse antivaxers were told they are killing their granny (after a year of restrictions that hit them very hard). And now the second issue will be that even the people WITH jabs will slowly realise - as the summer is ending in northern hemispehere - that this is not the end. Even they are and will be restricted, although less than the antivaxers.

    So the group of antivaxers will now joing with the group of people who reluctantly got jabs and they will be against the old and sick geezers.

    The society can no more tolerate few percents of dead people as it was normal in history. So the whole society is at stake with hope that covid will magically disappear. Even if covid disappears now, another proxy war between old and young (and old culture and new culture and old economy and new economy) will come. So the covid is just a pretext. Not a pretext in the iluminati bs meaning. It is a proxy war where old steal the time from the young, so the old live a bit longer and the young have a horrible life.
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    The discussion about vaccination passports is weird and probably US/Euro centric.

    Admittedly, my country is a bit of a back-water, and is mainly closed for business as we try to squash an outbreak of a Delta variant. But we have no such thing as vaccination proof. I mean I have an appointment card at my local clinic but it's not an official document and could easily be faked.

    Any stamp or endorsement placed on a passport could also be faked.
    How would you validate a vaccine stamp from the US, or UK, let alone countries like Ukraine, India, China ?

    Additionally, business travel between countries is tricky down here right now. We have a virtually closed border, with those travelling having to do a mandatory 14 day quarantine before entering the New Zealand, at a cost of around $4000 - $5000 to be paid by the traveller. These positions are limited meaning only about 8,000 - 10,000 entrants (or re-entrants) per month.

    This is for all visitors, as any person who has been vaccinated can still contract and carry the virus, and pass it onto others, they simply will not be symptomatic.

    Accordingly, traveling internationally is NOT really an option if I want to get back into New Zealand.

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    Lol. Probably easier to go to Mars than Oceania or Japan nowadays.

    However the passports already are existing in some LATAM countries. It is coming to Japan at least for future tourists (yes they are a bit racist). It is a thing in Israel.

    The vaccinacion passports can be verified pretty easily. It can be from banana country as well and it can be verified with anyone with internet connection. The EU solution is more complicate because of GDPR I guess. There is something like master confirmation with QR code and you can upload this to the app, that generates another QR code and that code can be verified through other app (usually no one is doing the verification, but it will change with time). To this system of QR codes / to the same app, you can upload also the master PCR tests with QR code and again the verification app can verify the validity without doubt.

    The latam vaccinacion passports I have seen are easier, because of no GDPR. There is just one QR code that leads to government URL, where is a name, ID number and status (OK/not OK). They recently changed it to a bit more anonymous system, so only part of name and part of ID is shown. Because I have been checked many times just entering the supermarket!!! I was also refused (before 14 days after my 2nd dose passed, so I basically could not buy food) by the supermarket security and it is really weird if they see all your data. So now a security at supermarket sees just some of your data. Police however has a special app where they see all data of the digital certificate.

    So basically at some countries the vaccine passport means you can buy a bread. You can not go to swimming pool and you can not travel. It is just an example of one country. But it is for real.

    One thing is that the QR passports can be verified. Another thing is that no one wants to do it. I was battling in Europe in Spain, Switzerland, Austria, Liechtenstein, Slovakia, Poland and Czechia for EU recognition since June. They promised they will do it, but in the end they did nothing. They simply said fo, not our problem, even when EU health bosses in June said the countries must recognize the vaccines outside of EU.

    In the end I got the EU certificate in Germany, where they have probably the most foreigners in EU. Any bigger pharmacy shop in Germany is doing the recognition. So they basically give foreigners normal EU master QR certificate based on non-EU dertificate. It looks like one was inoculated by Koch institute in Germany then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post

    Any stamp or endorsement placed on a passport could also be faked.
    How would you validate a vaccine stamp from the US, or UK, let alone countries like Ukraine, India, China ?
    In the EU there's some app, but that app is not accepted in all countries. Big hassle. And some countries already started to put in quarantaine also vaccinated people. Now they're already providing "booster shots". 2 jabs isn't enough anymore.

    Stamps can be faked, but also certificates can be bought.

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